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Can you tell me which is the app used to check the details of battery and throttling?
Does 0 throttling also reflects the performance is not slowed down in your day to day use?
Because I can see that my phone is slowed down with OS updates over the years.

The apps are Geekbench, CPU Dasher and Battery Life.
 
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Obvious question: Are they doing this with other devices - specifically Apple watches?

Probably do and apparently it’s our job to protect our devices from stealing. Isn’t there some authority in society to protect us?

I though I heard about a thing called courts. Seems like they dont do their job.
 
I’m not sure this is “provable” bait and switch as capacity also relates to cold weather. I’ll bet android wishes they had thought of this.

Congress the same congress and administration that just banished net neutrality? Ok then.

They are throttled permanently even in a warm home on a charger.
 
I can understand why this has to be done due to the battery tripping past the cutoff voltage for the phone to shut down when the draw is high enough but this happens even when plugged in, which doesn’t make sense. There is something else that’s contributing to neccesitate this.

My phone was constantly running at 700MHz for a long time. Apps stopped running smoothly, things took forever to load. I saw this article a few days ago and replaced my battery and suddenly my phone is again at 1848MHz.

I hated when the phone turned off randomly but IF I knew that was solely due to the battery, i’d gladly replace it. Slowing down my phone and CREATING a crappy user experience isn’t something any company should be forcing onto their customers.

For those who say it’s overblown, unless you have experienced this, you can’t decide whether it’s okay or not. My 6s was slower than my wife’s 5s which was a year older and definitely had more charges on it. Same apps would be noticeably slower on my 1 year newer phone and stuttering while running.

For those comparing this to laptops - that analogy is so far off from this. Firstly you can clearly see the speed drop. Second, it’s well understood. Third and most importantly, when plugged back in, speed is back up. Which one of these points pertain to this situation?

This!

As it sounds, only phones 6 and higher are affected.
If this was just due to normal battery degradation, why aren’t the older phones affected?

My 6S is now slower than a normal 6, almost as slow as a 5S after only 13month.
 
very well stated remember the good old days when I could do this on my Motorola phone and batteries were like $40
Yeah, and that phone was pushing a 2 inch monotone display, maybe Bluetooth 1 and no wifi or GPS...
 
This has got to get to national news if we have any hope of not being scammed and stolen. Does anybody know a good reporter?

Only then will Apple be forced to recall the faulty batteries and stop this scam in the future.

They will only be truthful when in the bright light.
Are you kidding?

This is on all major news outlets, just watch google news.
 
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Seriously, what a bunch of spoiled brats. Why are you not plotting with pitchforks to sue the flashlight companies when those batteries start to degrade and the light gets dimmer over time?
I would actually like to recognize the company for putting in who knows how many millions into research and programming to come up with a solution to keep our devices from simply posting off. And yet the masses that are doing no more than refreshing Twitter all night are complaining that their 4 year old phone, that was probably refurbished by some ****** insurance company after they dropped it in the toilet, is no longer able to clock speeds they never utilized before. A company implements a feature to extend the life of a device and everyone calls out "PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE!"
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Translates to... We want you to buy a new iPhone...
By implementing a solution to keep your older phone running longer
 
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Yea the bug is public trust in Apple. It’s about to be squished.

That bug is already squished for me, now deciding what to do with the X and my watch.
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By implementing a solution to keep your older phone running longer

Not sure if you're a troll or just willfully ignorant in this case. Apple is doing this to the 7, is that a four year old device?
 
You over estimate your understanding of technology... Typically when rechargeable batteries age they both lose capacity and see an increase in internal resistance. Lower capacity affects runtime. Internal resistance affects the voltage drop under load. Pulling current across that higher internal resistance both reduces the voltage available to the system and heats the battery pack— neither is good. I’m pretty sure this has been explained.

In effect, what you are complaining about is that Apple didn’t anticipate the increased internal resistance and throttle their processor on launch to match the lower performance of a two year old phone in cold weather.

There are a million engineering decisions that Apple doesn’t need to explain. This wasn’t secret, they made reference to it in the release notes. The fact you first saw this on Reddit followed by a chain of snarky hipster comments doesn’t mean you’ve uncovered a conspiracy. There are a million engineering decisions that Apple makes that they don’t need to explain. This one prevents my phone from restarting when I turn the camera on or in the middle of a video conference call, which I greatly appreciate. I’m an adult. I can handle the fact that things start to slow down as they age.



I feel for you. You’re obviously flustered by this. You keep repeating yourself...

Yes, Apple should have designed a phone that will perform close to spec a year after it was purchased. Which should take into account higher internal resistance after a year. A phone should work as advertised for only a single year (or less)..

That is good design. Bad design is covering up the fact that you either under-specified the battery, or failed to account for the aging of the battery.

Proof of that failure is that the initial ios shipping with the phone did not have this behavior.

So you appreciate that your premium SMART phone turns into a dumb phone after a year?
Please show me these reference notes.
 
I don't think it's sinister. It's like if you were running super low on gas, you would drive delicately and not slam the gas, in hopes of extending your mileage.
Let that be the user’s choice to operate their phone how they want. That’s the problem here. Apple is like a nanny state. They know what’s best for you better than you do.
 
That bug is already squished for me, now deciding what to do with the X and my watch.
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Not sure if you're a troll or just willfully ignorant in this case. Apple is doing this to the 7, is that a four year old device?
Nope. It's pretty clear. Battery degrades. Processor pulls power. Battery can't fully provide power at peaks. Phone shuts itself off. As a consumer, I'd be pissed if my 1-1.5 year old device is powering off. Apple provides a solution to phones powering off. Thus gaining a longer lifespan. Internet explodes.
 
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A phone having to shut down due to its battery not being able to supply enough power at peak use is not normal. Either it’s a defective battery that needs to be replaced or there’s an issue with its design. My guess is it has it has to do something with Apple trying to fit the smallest battery possible in every new generation of phones. Needing to throttle the system to avoid a shutdown is a workaround not a feature.
 
Not necessarily. They say it requires less than 80% according to their own tests. Others posted here they have been denied opportunities to pay for the service.

They told me that due to environmental concerns, they would not be able to swap out my iPhone 7 battery (89% capacity) even though I was happy to pay. It had to be at the 80% capacity for them to do it.
 
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Why would Apple let phones randomly shut down when they could come up with a software solution to prevent it? Stories of iPhones randomly switching off would be terrible for Apple, and would lead to customers thinking these devices are hopelessly unreliable.

The batteries clearly are not shot in many cases since the software fix has worked. Perhaps Apple could have done a better job of informing people about what is happening under the hood as others have suggested, but hiding complexity away from users is something Apple consistently strives to do.

The battery is shot, it can no longer run the phone at full speed.

If apple said that your new phone would run at the following speeds year 1- 100% speed, Year 2 50% speed, year 3 25% speed.

Would you buy it?
 
Seriously, what a bunch of spoiled brats. Why are you not plotting with pitchforks to sue the flashlight companies when those batteries start to degrade and the light gets dimmer over time?
I would actually like to recognize the company for putting in who knows how many millions into research and programming to come up with a solution to keep our devices from simply posting off. And yet the masses that are doing no more than refreshing Twitter all night are complaining that their 4 year old phone, that was probably refurbished by some ****** insurance company after they dropped it in the toilet, is no longer able to clock speeds they never utilized before. A company implements a feature to extend the life of a device and everyone calls out "PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE!"
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By implementing a solution to keep your older phone running longer
You're so off, it even hurts reading your textual diarrhea.
When a flash light dimms you replace the battery, or if its a rechargeable one you notice the lower run time.
In this case they've hidden the worn out battery by lowering the cpu frequency on purpose without notifying the customer, and on top of this, they reject battery replacements by saying "All good!", to avoid mass battery replacements or even a mass recall. This is a pure moral fraud and deserve a class action suit.
 
Seeems like it's not supposed to be arbitrary and not something that just starts at some preset number or something like that, but basically if at some point battery instability is detected due to some wear/degradation.
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Well, if you are going with car analogies, that behavior can likely be seen better by many than the car suddenly unexpectedly just dying while you are driving, for example.

That's excusing bad design.

Would you buy a car that one year later only accelerates at 1/2 speed?

Brand new, 0-60 - 7 secs, a year later 0-60 14secs. But at least it doesn't shut down.

Talk about a low bar
 
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