But you got a new battery, which happened to be wrapped up inside a new phone!
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Apple Addresses Alleged Throttling of iPhones With Degraded Batteries
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But you got a new battery, which happened to be wrapped up inside a new phone!
I have iphone 6s and have no problem at all before ios11. After update many freezes, shutdowns etc. ios11.2 is little better but still worse than 10.x and 9.x. For sure its not only battery related but also some apple way to force users to buy new phones.
Did something run up your backside? What has this got to do with Tesla and/or Elon Musk?
It is like saying, the Duracell bunny probably do the same.
Maybe not, that’s why they last less. Which isn’t bad at all. What we learned from this? Small devices with superb battery life behaves shady.
I dont think Samsung sees the need to slow down the prosessor on S8 or S8+.
"Back when the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ were launched, Samsung had made a very important announcement. According to the Korean giant, the batteries inside the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ will hold 95 percent of their original battery capacity in a year’s time."
According to a new report from Android Police, Samsung claims that the new-generation batteries that are used in the Galaxy S8 and the Galaxy S8+ would lose substantially less effective capacities over the same amount of time compared to the batteries used in the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge. The company said that a typical year’s worth of usage leaves the Galaxy S7 with just 80% of its original battery capacity. In comparison, the Galaxy S8 would preserve about 95% of its original battery capacity.
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https://www.sammobile.com/2017/03/2...uld-degrade-less-quickly-compared-to-the-s7s/
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/07/1...retain-95-percent-battery-capacity-after-year
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Amazing. So, after years and years of speculation about Apple sabotaging old hardware to keep their planned obsolescence cycle going, they finally admitted it. But they managed to spin it so well that Apple users are actually completely okay with it.
I would rather have a device that performed as best as it could for as long as it could, instead of reduced performance after so many months as the battery degrades.
Are iPads affected? Nintendo Switch has a Li-ion battery. After 1 year does that mean the frame rates will suck as the CPU is throttled? Will Macbooks be affected?
Again, very fishy!
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That's great thanks. Curious when they reach a certain level, do they also have a throttled CPU?
You completely missed the point. I was not attacking Apple for bulged batteries or making some Samsung type claim.
I simply stated that Apple's documentation and instructions said I could restore the phone to it's original state, which is 10.3.3. That was CLEARLY FALSE in my case. They clearly lied. They left me with an unusable backup of 10.3.3 which works better on an iPhone 5s than IOS 11 as anyone with a brain would know.
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Well you might be right about what they did with my phone, but that is NOT what they state in their policy on battery replacement. That much I know is true. I have the documentation to prove that.
If it is only “smoothing our peaks” than why does CPU DasherX Report a consistently low CPU Speed On my 6S while my friends 6S, my 6 and my X all report a consistently high CPU speed with no variations?
Subjectively, it feels like my 6S is throttled all the time not just when running benchmarks.
I’m am also absolutely shocked to hear that they are planning to expand this “feature” to other phones in the future. I will definitely not “upgrade” my X to whatever software version it will be that will slow it down.
I can’t believe it.
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Subjectively, it feels like my 6S is throttled all the time not just when running benchmarks.
I’m am also absolutely shocked to hear that they are planning to expand this “feature” to other phones in the future. I will definitely not “upgrade” my X to whatever software version it will be that will slow it down.
I can’t believe it.
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Same here.
There won’t be a “class suit” which means the suit isn’t worth it or there will be a class action suit that’s tossed.
The very fact that Apple responded to this so quickly tells me they sense a swarming of the lawyers.
That only means one thing. I'll need to declare my $3 Apple Store credit on my 2019 tax form.
Meanwhile, the suing lawyers will all be in the Caribbean for free sunning themselves afterwards win or lose.
That only means one thing. I'll need to declare my $3 Apple Store credit on my 2019 tax form.
Meanwhile, the suing lawyers will all be in the Caribbean for free sunning themselves afterwards win or lose.
Well, to me that sounds like: "We designed our phones to include a battery that after a year or so of normal use is not able to deliver enough power for the rest of the hardware that we also designed. We didn't want to initiate a huge replacement program, so we covered it up in software and hoped no one would notice so we don't get sued."
I haven't haven't experience it, but my battery was replaced. In saying that the new batter is horrible so now I'm using the battery case.
Lol. My only 13-month old 6S is throttled to only 600 MHz according to CPU DasherX and archives less than half the Geekbench score it should.
These are expensive phones that should last longer.
I would not be complaining if this happened after two years AND there was a notification.
Why do you make it seem like we have to choose between random shutdowns and slowed performance after just a year (remember, some 7s are also affected now - a little more than a year old) when in fact we bought the phones not expecting any of this.
You are the first!!! Sir. I am honored to reply second to this post.
It would be so high risk for a Android phone manufacturer to reduce the speed on the prosessor, because if you are dissatisfied with the product, it is highly likely that you switch to another brand.
Since it has the same operating system, the threshold for switching to another brand will be very low. In iOS, it's only one manufacturer, and that is Apple
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I agree.
If the phone is doing this on purpose, there is no reason it couldn't notify to user and allow the use to decide:
"Battery degradation detected. To reduce consumption click OK. Note: This may affect the speed of your iPhone."
Instead Apple did it without telling their users. Most people would assume the phone needs replacing and buy another one.
I think this is really bad practice.
Since 2010 spoke has been sabotaging old hardware to keep their “planned obsolescence” cycle going. Maybe because people really know it’s not really about “planned obsolescence “ is why some are okay with it.
As in everything Apple there always is divisiness as both sides get the baseball bats out.
It funny how each iPhone generation gets faster and more powerful but the caveat is the battery technology is not there to support this level of power after 1 yr of use. So you get a 7 but in a year to 2 year later, you are 1-2 generations slower (just a guesstimate).
My 4S with 45% degraded baterey has 0 throttling! It’s still benchmarking 100%.
So the newer phones have a battery defect and Apple is refusing to recall them and tricking us out of our own bought devices in the hopes we will pay them to upgrade.
This is coming from someone who has owned every iPhone since 3GS, an iPad, two macs, Apple TV, AirPort Express, and so on... This former fan who would recommend Apple to anybody, now tells people to avoid these scammers.
I didn't write the rest of the detail to cater for every use case. If the battery is that bad that is needs to be throttled to avoid being shutdown, iOS will of course know about it, therefore the toggle switch will be greyed out with a clear explanation of why.