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I'm confused as to why iOS 9.3 is requiring people to re-activate their devices in the first place. What reason could there be for this when the devices must already be activated or they wouldn't work in the first place?

On a side note, I upgraded my iPhone 5s to iOS 9.3 on release day without issue. That could be though because I only ever activated it with one Apple ID. Supposedly the (non-iPad 2) activation problem occurs if the iPhone has even been activated by a different Apple ID in the past, even if it was removed.

My iPad 2 got hit by the stuck activation bug. I updated it last night without issue, though I signed out of iCloud first just to be safe. Of course since my iPad 2 decided to do a backup while stuck in the activation state (I'm guessing that's the reason), I am unable to delete my current iCloud backup.
 
Having none of these problems with my iPad2, however I will say that the apple ID system is at times enough to make you crazy.
An iTunes apple id when you have to buy there. An apple id for apps and if you had .mac or .me or a personal and business apple id good luck. Changed your e-mail address, not so fast young user!

There is no option I have seen to be able to clean this up. I many times have to log in and out of an id to make my apps work.

Or, annoyingly have to keep clicking on not now when it keeps asking me to log in (with an account which never gets recognized any more)
It's not really that hard. You create your Apple ID and password and use it for all of your personal devices. If your employer allows you to activation lock a work issued device with your personal Apple ID they are crazy. If you leave or get fired are you gonna give them your info so they can unlock the device. Probably not. I would recommend that employers lock the device to a work issued email account and password. That way if the employee leaves they can still get into the device. They can always restore to factory to remove passcode lock.

Apple ID is almost like your SSN.
 
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I can understand if a new feature is not included because of hardware constraints but this is clearly an example of not including a new feature to incite upgrading the hardware. How do I know? Flux worked flawlessly before Apple banned it.
It's not included because the feature was written based on 64-bit libraries/frameworks, which 32-bit devices don't support.
 
How about the "bug" that kills the 4G/LTE on Sprint 6s phones? I've been using Sprint's horrid 3G for the past week, and it's insane!

Since updating my phone yesterday I haven't had service on Sprint. Spent 1 hour on the phone and they couldn't help but said much of the LA area is having the same issue. Went to sprint store and they said people have been coming in all day with the same issue. I have a 6s+ and didn't think i would be affected...guess not lol
 
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I can understand if a new feature is not included because of hardware constraints but this is clearly an example of not including a new feature to incite upgrading the hardware. How do I know? Flux worked flawlessly before Apple banned it.

I'm still trying to understand how your iPad 4 is "obsolete" because it can't use one small new feature in iOS 9.3

Please clarify that.

It has already been explained that it requires a 64-bit processor.

Are you ready to throw your iPad 4 in the trash because of that? Send it to me instead! :)
 
"prevents older device owners from activating their iPhones and iPads if they can't remember the Apple ID and password originally used to set up the device."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same security feature that we have already, to discourage theft?
I find it silly how not knowing one's Apple ID and password is considered a "bug". The iPad 2 issue, sure but not remembering Apple ID and password is on the owner.
 
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So we had the 8.0.1 update that completely killed cellular functionality for people who had just bought the iPhone 6 (myself included), the 9.2 update that bricked iPhones with replaced Touch ID sensors, and now the 9.3 update that potentially locks up devices in two separate ways (though one has been fixed). What is going on with Apple's software quality control? It has gone absolutely down the toilet since they fired Forstall. Prior to version 7, iOS certainly had bugs. However, they were almost always minor, required usually no more than one .x release to fix, and were never show-stopping like some of these ones we have seen over the past few years. The craziest thing is that iOS 9 has had a public beta program for each 9.x version and has still managed to have several of these large bugs. It used to be that I would install the latest iOS update the moment it came out. Now, I wait at least a few days to make sure it's not going to brick my phone.

Sad that Apple has let things get this bad.
And yet, when Forstall was in charge you couldn't get more than a year out of your iPhone before the next iOS version slowed it to a snail's pace. iOS 5 was a drag and iOS 6 was a total nightmare on the iPhone 4.

Apple has made huge strides with iOS 7 and beyond in terms of keeping older devices from grinding to a halt just for tapping the update button.

Bugs like this are a drag, but don't act like it's all been downhill for iOS since Forstall. Things have improved immensely for the overall user experience, and the bugs that do slip through the cracks can and do always get fixed.
 
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I find it silly how not knowing one's Apple ID and password is considered a "bug". The iPad 2 issue, sure but not remembering Apple ID and password is on the owner.
You probably find it silly because it seems you don't completely understand the issue. The owners current ID may not have been the ID used to originally set up the device.
"prevents older device owners from activating their iPhones and iPads if they can't remember the Apple ID and password originally used to set up the device." The update shouldn't be asking for that Apple ID and pw. There are many reasons the ID/pw may have been changed; someone compromising the ID/pw could be one. Would you want to use it to validate your device?
 
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Apple needs to stop doing yearly updates to thier os. Release versions when they are ready! Irony is that Windows is now stable and they take thier time with releases while Apple is pumping out versions like Microsoft used to.

Yearly updates driven by the markerting team is not working!!!!

Back to basics Apple.....
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And yet, when Forstall was in charge you couldn't get more than a year out of your iPhone before the next iOS version slowed it to a snail's pace. iOS 5 was a drag and iOS 6 was a total nightmare on the iPhone 4.

Apple has made huge strides with iOS 7 and beyond in terms of keeping older devices from grinding to a halt just for tapping the update button.

Bugs like this are a drag, but don't act like it's all been downhill for iOS since Forstall. Things have improved immensely for the overall user experience, and the bugs that do slip through the cracks can and do always get fixed.

You may find that the only that has changed is the hardware in mobile phones has advanced at a very fast rate allowing updates to newer Os.

just like a 6-7 year old Mac running the latest OS X .

No mastermind strategy , or clever coding , the hardware has just improved, where the hardware does not limit OS anymore.....
 
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"prevents older device owners from activating their iPhones and iPads if they can't remember the Apple ID and password originally used to set up the device."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same security feature that we have already, to discourage theft?

Read the sentence carefully: "The Apple ID and password originally used to set up the device". That may not be your Apple ID and password anymore. You might have a second hand device. Or you might have changed your Apple ID and password since you originally set up the device.

Kind of... but it's only supposed to kick in after resetting a device to factory settings. Popping up after an update isn't intended behavior. At the same time, however, I don't see the problem with it. It is indeed another way to prevent theft.
When you reset to factory settings, you are asked for the current Apple ID and password, not the original Apple ID and password used to set up the device some years ago.
 
Having none of these problems with my iPad2, however I will say that the apple ID system is at times enough to make you crazy.
An iTunes apple id when you have to buy there. An apple id for apps and if you had .mac or .me or a personal and business apple id good luck. Changed your e-mail address, not so fast young user!

There is no option I have seen to be able to clean this up. I many times have to log in and out of an id to make my apps work.

Or, annoyingly have to keep clicking on not now when it keeps asking me to log in (with an account which never gets recognized any more)

I'm not criticizing, but I've never fully understood this problem.
I have a single apple ID I setup over 10 years ago on my first mac. Then I used the same one for the itunes store, and then the app store, and it still works for all of apples services.

Why do so many people have separate IDs for each individual service?
 
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His job as CEO was not to write code.
But you knew that.
His job was to make sure that something like the last five years
of wretched hardware and software disasters didn't happen.
Apple's incompetence of late is just stunning.
Apple is a disaster, right? Making profits Jobs couldn't even dream about, having a market cap beyond belief, releasing a smart watch and having dominant market share within a year. Total disaster :rolleyes:
 
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"prevents older device owners from activating their iPhones and iPads if they can't remember the Apple ID and password originally used to set up the device."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same security feature that we have already, to discourage theft?
Um, slightly different. I think. It needs the very "original" password used to set up iPad/iPhone etc. This means if you have changed your password a few times, it is possible you don't know which one is the one originally used to activate.
My iPad mini however, just uses my latest Apple ID password to "activate". Hmm.
 
So we had the 8.0.1 update that completely killed cellular functionality for people who had just bought the iPhone 6 (myself included), the 9.2 update that bricked iPhones with replaced Touch ID sensors, and now the 9.3 update that potentially locks up devices in two separate ways (though one has been fixed). What is going on with Apple's software quality control? It has gone absolutely down the toilet since they fired Forstall. Prior to version 7, iOS certainly had bugs. However, they were almost always minor, required usually no more than one .x release to fix, and were never show-stopping like some of these ones we have seen over the past few years. The craziest thing is that iOS 9 has had a public beta program for each 9.x version and has still managed to have several of these large bugs. It used to be that I would install the latest iOS update the moment it came out. Now, I wait at least a few days to make sure it's not going to brick my phone.

Sad that Apple has let things get this bad.
You left out the iOS 9 making the iPhone 6s stuck in infinite loop of activation right out of the box without iTunes.
 
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The craziest thing is that iOS 9 has had a public beta program for each 9.x version and has still managed to have several of these large bugs.
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You know, I think you're on to something. I would suspect the crowd that jumps in for the public beta is much more likely to be on the latest hardware than the older stuff. If apple is relying heavily on the public beta for bug identification/testing, they're likely to not get a representative mix of IOS users.
 
I just got a wifi only iPad 2 given to me on iOS 9.3 launch day.
I've never used one before...Never understood the attraction. My first impression when it was handed to me was.... Man this thing is HEAVY.

Anyway... It was wiped clean when I got it. I backed up my iPhone 5 to iCloud, then "restored from backup" the iPad. Everything worked perfectly without a glitch.

Then updated the iPad (not the phone) to iOS 9.3 and that went perfectly too. No problems at all.

My impression of iOS 9.x on an iPad 2 is that it is super slow. To the point I don't even want to play with it except to watch a movie or look at pictures (which is why I got it in the first place).

On an off topic... Is there ANY comfortable way to hold this thing for any amount of time? It seems so intentionally un-ergonomic and unnecessarily heavy.
 
Read the sentence carefully: "The Apple ID and password originally used to set up the device". That may not be your Apple ID and password anymore. You might have a second hand device. Or you might have changed your Apple ID and password since you originally set up the device.


When you reset to factory settings, you are asked for the current Apple ID and password, not the original Apple ID and password used to set up the device some years ago.

I'm using a second hand Ipad 2 and didn't have this issue so this bug doesn't occur in all cases in seams.
I'm guessing someone sold (or more probably passed on) their device without a proper reset or something (simply unlogged their device maybe and logged with a new ID).
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I just got a wifi only iPad 2 given to me on iOS 9.3 launch day.
I've never used one before...Never understood the attraction. My first impression when it was handed to me was.... Man this thing is HEAVY.

Anyway... It was wiped clean when I got it. I backed up my iPhone 5 to iCloud, then "restored from backup" the iPad. Everything worked perfectly without a glitch.

Then updated the iPad (not the phone) to iOS 9.3 and that went perfectly too. No problems at all.

My impression of iOS 9.x on an iPad 2 is that it is super slow. To the point I don't even want to play with it except to watch a movie or look at pictures (which is why I got it in the first place).

On an off topic... Is there ANY comfortable way to hold this thing for any amount of time? It seems so intentionally un-ergonomic and unnecessarily heavy.

Wow, how people forget fast. I was as light as it could be for its time.

You can just use it by putting your arm/hand on your lap and just then putting it in your open hand.
I can hold it, with the cover and plastic protection, for hours like that and with that protection it weights 750g+.

The Ipad 2 on 9.3 is not really slow for a device that old (if you compare to a new device of course it is much slower, that's the whole point of getting a new device), though it was slowish on 9.0.

If your just using it for watching movies and photos or reading books (and not browsing the net where its lack of speed is most apparent), they you should be fine.

I still use a 3GS, which is even slower to play movies/songs on my dlna servers just fine.

People are really taking tech for granted; anyone who has used really old tech, in the 1980s or 1990s, would certainly not call the Ipad 2 "slow" for such functions.
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I picked up an iPad 2 16GB for next to nil last week to see what this was all about. It's fast, it runs smoothly. The battery runtime is absolutely insane. I've found myself using it for reading a lot more than I thought I would have.

Simple answer, because old doesn't mean useless. It doesn't need to die with dignity because from a usefulness perspective, it isn't ready to die. But I figure as a project head of a team of developers enabling OS X to run on older machines, you're fairly familiar with this concept.

I think the Ipad 2 is only at the end of its rope as a web browser, mostly because modern web pages are ridiculously big with thousands of links, and that's what taxes the processor the most. For media consumption, it is still OK.
 
If you can't remember your Apple ID password, you've got way bigger problems than upgrading iOS. I don't understand why this is Apple's "issue".
 
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