I just purchased the 13" 2017 model with touchbar for $1529 that's a lot easier to swallow than $1800, for that configuration. Can't wait til it gets here!
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Apple Adds 2017 13-Inch MacBook Pro Models to Refurbished Store
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Man if only I had waited 5 months. Didn't know the processor specs would have been updated so quickly.
Oh well life goes on!
Oh well life goes on!
New "2016 Models." And BestBuy student discount is actually $125, so the cost would be $1474 pre-tax. Still a good price, but you can always get the "Latest Models" (2017) for about the same price.
That may be so, but they are cosmetically pristine, and come with the same warranty as new, while also eligible for AppleCare, so it is a decent deal considering Apple, other than Black Friday, doesn't normally have sales.
Perhaps I've been lucky, but the half dozen things I've bought thru the refurb store haven't given me any problems.
Of course if a person can't wait a few months, or must have that shiny new box, feel free to pay full retail.
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And you have that right, I'm just saying you probably won't be able to tell them apart if you put them side-by-side.
Also some of the refurb items may have been returned for whatever reason, without actually having been used.
I strongly suspect the TimeCapsule I bought from the refurb store was actually brand new, in a shiny white retail box with factory shrink wrap. Also, many people have reported getting upgraded specs at the lower, ordered price.
If anyone is hesitant about purchasing from the refurb store, remember you have the exact same return privileges as if you bought brand-new, so nothing to lose really.
Make a no TB model with at least an HDMI and MagSafe in 15" and I'll replace my current. Not until. HDMI is standard in every conference room I go to. I am not dragging around a bunch ridiculous dongles because of a bad decision by some knob at Apple.
I think you misunderstood time value of money in your finance course. That applies to, as the term suggests, money. It does not apply to objects which, as I'm sure you also learned in your finance class, depreciate.
That's why your Porsche example is a poor one. That's a unique and valuable item--a collectible. Aside from collectible value, old stuff and this includes cars are worth less. A more mainstream example would be a 2000 Honda compared to a 2017 Honda. Prices haven't even kept up with inflation. And that new Honda is superior in every way.
Most things today are cheaper than they used to be, or they're better, or in many cases they are both. The notion that computers are in some special different class doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
Folks, these refurbs are machines that the original owners shipped back to Apple because they finally realized that pros really do need things like an onboard SD card slot, a good keyboard with tactile feedback, at least one USBA port built-in, a trackpad that isn't so large that imperfect palm rejection software is required to keep the machine half-way usable, a decent sized battery under heavy loads, a computer that doesn't have unnecessary battery drain from seldom-used gizmos like a Touchbar, and a fun glowing Apple logo to show off in back (maybe not a pro feature, but it should come with that pro price tag).
The 15" MBP is physically large enough that these sacrifices did not have to be made. And if Apple really wanted to focus on gutting features for the sake of greater portability, they need only have done that on the non-pro models of the MacBook and MacBook Air. Despite the universal nature of the 4 USBC ports, the fact is that dongles are NOT a "pro" feature. And when you exit your abode only to remember you actually needed a dongle you forgot, you are in a world of hurt.
Again, there's enough surface area on the 15" model so Apple could have allowed us our cake and the ability to eat it too. Johnny Ive's minimalism needs a tighter leash. Until then, I shall remain content with my 2015 edition 15" MBP (the last really "pro" Apple notebook), even in spite of the antiglare coating issues it comes with.
The 15" MBP is physically large enough that these sacrifices did not have to be made. And if Apple really wanted to focus on gutting features for the sake of greater portability, they need only have done that on the non-pro models of the MacBook and MacBook Air. Despite the universal nature of the 4 USBC ports, the fact is that dongles are NOT a "pro" feature. And when you exit your abode only to remember you actually needed a dongle you forgot, you are in a world of hurt.
Again, there's enough surface area on the 15" model so Apple could have allowed us our cake and the ability to eat it too. Johnny Ive's minimalism needs a tighter leash. Until then, I shall remain content with my 2015 edition 15" MBP (the last really "pro" Apple notebook), even in spite of the antiglare coating issues it comes with.
I am sorry but these things are NOT an upgrade. The reliance on dongles is incredibly annoying for a "Pro" model.
And Magsafe? WTH Apple!
And Magsafe? WTH Apple!
My brother picked up a 2017 one for that price in-store, but it could've been an error on that store's part.
Ok who on here sent their 2017 13" back to Apple?
I just returned my 13 this morning and exchanged it for a 15. had it since July 20th but decided to go bigger. apple was very cool letting me exchange it.
I think he means that "refurbished" shouldn't be allowed as a retail description, being a euphemism for "used". I disagree, since there are component replacements and testing procedures in place to add value, but I understand the sentiment.
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Since Touchbar Macs are ostensibly aimed at users who need UI elements surfaced that true professionals would access through keyboard shortcuts, it seems that "everyone else" is a key demographic.
I read the title as Apple adds a 17" Macbook Pro Model to the Store and I started getting excited
Even if by some sheer miracle Apple at long last recognized the demand for a 17" MBP, unless Johnny Ive gets the axe (yet another miracle), any new 17" model with all that real estate would still likely still come with only 4 USBC ports. No SD card slot. No legacy USBA port. No "good" keyboard. A super thin yet underpowered battery, only to make it thinner and lighter. And probably an even bigger trackpad to ensure your palms hit it when typing and the black arrow cursor can do the "I love Johnny Ive dance" onscreen. No glowing Apple logo on back. NO LOVE or excitement from me.
Yes, well, after all, it's just a computer, which has become such a commodity these days as to be a cheaper version of a car, or even a bicycle. The last computer I was ever really sort of enthralled with in an emotional way was a PDP-11/04 in the early 80s, with which I spent about 4 years with memory and disk upgrades, with working with an electrical engineer to design interfaces for real time lab work which plugged into its Unibus backplane. Oh, and then there was the programming part. Anyway, I got kind of teary eyed letting that thing go - it was the size of a small refrigerator, and I really felt invested in the thing after so much time. Of course, I was only 20-something at the time, computers were not common property back then, and were quite expensive investments. I really liked my old 2006 MBP, but never felt as intimate with it - or any other server/PC I've been around since that old PDP minicomputer.
Alas, our beloved Apple computers still haven't become cheaper than a bicycle, even when compared to my $700 Giant ATX mountain bike. But I do share your nostalgia for machines of the past:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66071596@N00/albums
I also loved my Macintosh IIvx, despite the fact Apple notoriously killed it off only a few short month after its intro, and despite the fact I paid $1000 a year later to upgrade the entire motherboard to a Quadra 650. The good old days of a solidly-built, upgradable Apple computer that could be run 24/7 for years without issues.
Thanks!
On the apple store app it doesn't show the whole description. Went to the site and there it is.
re: John123 - You raise good points, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't pay attention at my 7am Finance back in the 90's! Still, I'm sticking to my guns on consumer entitlement for electronic goods. The amount of effort that a company has to invest in when it comes to R&D, rare earth materials, supplier complexity, manufacturing wages, quality control, distribution, etc.. to produce a modern laptop, is just mind-blowing. $1500 is a bargain. Meanwhile, people will pay no attention to dropping $2000 on a flimsy BBQ or a set of tires.
