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5) Ability to change the positions that available channels appear, like we can change the way apps appear on other iOS devices (more personalization)

Are you aware that you can already move the ATV apps around the screen whereever you want to put them? Just click on the app and wait until it wiggles, then move it. Hit your menu button to keep it where you moved it.
 
Direct competitor. Amazon will never agree to do it.

OF COURSE Amazon would agree to it!

Amazon specifically updated their iOS app to enable airplay. That is, they went to extra effort to make it possible for people to watch Amazon Instant Streaming movies/shows on the Apple TV. So they clearly are in favor of people watching Amazon content on Apple TV (and why wouldn't they be?).

You could argue that APPLE doesn't want to allow Amazon to have an Apple TV app, but not that Amazon would not support it.
 
The idea with Apple TV was okay. But Apple has been sleeping for so long that every SmartTV is far ahead of this little now useless box - unless you live in the US.

Samsung, Philips, LG and so on all have App Stores with local Apps. Soooo using my Apple TV ? Nope... Not anymore. Dust collector. Samsung SmartTV for the win :)

Love Apple but BOY DO THEY SLEEP IN CLASS AT THE MOMENT. Nothing new for years...
 
Crackle App needs a lot of work still not all genres of movies are showing up, no search engine to find movies or TV shows and Watchlist is not showing the movies or TV Shows added to watchlist.

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jtrauscht;18489049]Direct competitor. Amazon will never agree to do it.

Why do people keep coming up with this excuse when they have no actual proof this is the reason Amazon Prime is not on Apple TV? If it is available to watch on iPhone or iPad and through Airplay than what would be the difference if it is on Apple TV?


Clearly no one knows why Amazon Prime is still not on Apple TV so please refrain from the pathetic excuse of being a competitor when every other streaming service is also a competitor. Just because with Amazon you can also purchase a streaming movie just like on iTunes does not mean you can not stream Amazon Prime Movies or TV Shows like Netflix. If Apple feels that is in direct competition with them then why not start a streaming service like Amazon Prime?
 
Clearly no one knows why Amazon Prime is still not on Apple TV so please refrain from the pathetic excuse of being a competitor when every other streaming service is also a competitor.
Yeah well, every other on-demand streaming service is not on Apple TV either. Like Amazon, Vudu and CinemaNow are on just about every Smart TV, Blu-ray player and streaming box known to man, except for the Apple TV. Could it be that Apple has something to do with that? :p

Cheap subscription services like Netflix and Hulu have a completely different business model and are not in direct competition with EST providers like iTunes.
 
I think most cord cutters believe if only we could pay for what we want then it would be cheaper. I completely disagree. As most know when you drop TV and/or Phone then your Internet charges go up. The PIPE Provider (TWC, FIOS, etc) will get their cut no matter how the content is packaged or delivered. Also, it is pretty cheap to add a small TV Package to your Internet (at least on FIOS).

Depends on how you get your internet. Most cable companies are willing to take a loss on cable TV to prove to their investors that they are not losing subscribers hand over fist. You can play that game if you want. I haven't seen many cases where CableTV + Internet is actually cheaper than Internet itself, although it is often only a few bucks more or even equivalent in cost for some number of months if you are a new subscriber or call in and tell them to drop your cable TV service.

That said, DirecTV getting dropped is not going to increase or decrease your ISP bill, no matter how you get Internet, and you aren't going to get a "deal" on DirecTV no matter what. So, if DirecTV was already a better deal than cable, cutting that "cord" entirely is even better.

In the end, if it works for you to keep cable, great. But, there are a large number of people (me included) who are actively paying much less than we were for TV service and getting as good or better service as a result. And, importantly, we don't have to worry about when that 6-month "introductory" offer or "retention" offer is going to expire. The fundamental reason that paying for what we actually want to watch is cheaper is that we don't subsidize the expensive stuff for other people (mainly sports programming, which is just exorbitantly expensive). It's not a pipe dream that cutting out cable TV can save money while providing equivalent value. It is a reality today.
 
Yeah well, every other on-demand streaming service is not on Apple TV either. Like Amazon, Vudu and CinemaNow are on just about every Smart TV, Blu-ray player and streaming box known to man, except for the Apple TV. Could it be that Apple has something to do with that? :p

Cheap subscription services like Netflix and Hulu have a completely different business model and are not in direct competition with EST providers like iTunes.

Here is my take, to be on the Apple tv companies have to give apple a cut. Amazon prime is sold yearly so say 30% of there price is lost to Apple just to get on the Apple tv. Is that an acceptable loss? No thats why Amazon is doing everything they can to get on the Apple tv but via ipad/iphone air play instead of paying the 30% fee.
 
Where is TWC?

I'm ecstatic that Apple keeps updating and adding channels, but why isn't Time Warner Cable an option for WatchABC? Wake up, TWC!
 
Yeah well, every other on-demand streaming service is not on Apple TV either. Like Amazon, Vudu and CinemaNow are on just about every Smart TV, Blu-ray player and streaming box known to man, except for the Apple TV. Could it be that Apple has something to do with that? :p

Cheap subscription services like Netflix and Hulu have a completely different business model and are not in direct competition with EST providers like iTunes.


Than tell me the difference between a iPhone and Apple TV because Amazon Prime is on iPhone and you can use Airplay to watch on your Apple TV. Vudu and CinemaNow obviously are not on Apple TV because obviously that would compete with iTunes. If this is a problem with Apple TV then why not start streaming service like Netflix and Amazon prime?


Clearly people are ignoring that you can get Amazon Prime on other Apple devices if that is okay then what is the difference with Apple TV? If you got no answer than do not bother with it and no it has nothing to do with competition.
 
Than tell me the difference between a iPhone and Apple TV because Amazon Prime is on iPhone and you can use Airplay to watch on your Apple TV. Vudu and CinemaNow obviously are not on Apple TV because obviously that would compete with iTunes.
Why is it obvious for them but not for Amazon, which offers the same service?
If this is a problem with Apple TV then why not start streaming service like Netflix and Amazon prime?
How would that remove the direct competition between iTunes and Amazon electronic sell-through?
Clearly people are ignoring that you can get Amazon Prime on other Apple devices if that is okay then what is the difference with Apple TV?
You can get Vudu and CinemaNow on other Apple devices too, but not on the Apple TV. Obviously the content owners treat mobile devices differently than home TV. Airplay is just a work-around that is less convenient and not used by many people on a permanent basis.
If you got no answer than do not bother with it and no it has nothing to do with competition.
If you say so. :rolleyes:
 
Dear Disney,

Please keep clinging to the "cable" subscription-TV business model, especially for your channels that are completely free over-the-air. Your dinosaur-like behavior is sure to win you plenty of friends with the newer generation who will never bother to subscribe to cable.

As for me, your activation on AppleTV apps makes me want to *unsubscribe* from cable TV.

If your TV shows are worth a damn, I will make sure to catch them a year and a half later after they hit the discount bin and I can pay <$1/episode, yet still watch them commercial-free, then watch them again if they don't suck.

Or--stay with me here--you can admit that TV is horribly broken. You can adopt a model where I can watch your shows on-demand, ad-free, once, for $0.50/view/show, "buy" the shows for $1.00/show, or watch them with regular TV ads for free.

Otherwise I'll just go watch stupid cat GIFs on Reddit and you can keep doing stupid monopolistic crap while your viewership plummets.

Hugs and kisses,

isomorphic
 
Except that Amazon is a direct competitor to Apple and I doubt both companies are interested in adding an Amazon Video app to the Apple TV. Having it on iOS is one thing but directly on the Apple TV is another (especially with Amazon soon launching an Apple TV-like device of their own).

That being said, I'd love an Amazon video app on the Apple TV but for now using AirPlay to send it from the iPad works great.

I bet it's more likely than you think.

At the end of the day, Apple makes their money off hardware and Amazon makes their money on services. Amazon sells their hardware cheap to promote their services, and Apple only builds their services to sell hardware. If it means selling more Apple TV's and more prime subscriptions, both parties win. Apple hates google and Samsung even more, but they're not that stubborn about doing business with them. Apple could keep google apps off iOS or stop buying parts from Samsung...but they don't.
 
Hey apple start adding premium cable tv channels. I'd gladly drop my clunky cable box and service pay for $.99 a channel/month service. There's only a few stations I watch anyways, when I even watch TV.

HBO is $15 per month. Why the hell would HBO agree to roughly $12 per year?
 
The idea with Apple TV was okay. But Apple has been sleeping for so long that every SmartTV is far ahead of this little now useless box - unless you live in the US.

Samsung, Philips, LG and so on all have App Stores with local Apps. Soooo using my Apple TV ? Nope... Not anymore. Dust collector. Samsung SmartTV for the win :)

Love Apple but BOY DO THEY SLEEP IN CLASS AT THE MOMENT. Nothing new for years...

It's useless for you in Denmark, it's not useless for me here in the U.S. Maybe Apple doesn't want people to download apps? Maybe I don't want it either? Not everyone wants this you know?
 
I love how ABC, broadcast free, over the air, to my house, on public radio waves requires a CABLE SUBSCRIPTION to access.

To cut the cable you need to sit down and study your needs and come up with a complete strategy . It can be done but requires some planning.

I understand that ABC is subscription on Apple TV, but any cable cutter really needs to consider OTA as a starting point. Where I live, OTA is fantastic, 24 HD channels. I get all networks, (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX ME, MY, ION, LOTS of PBS, CW, ION, THIS, QUBO, RTN, and several Independent channels).....

Next up, I have an FTA Satellite system... Buy Once, No a monthly fee. Over 500 channels. Yeah, lots of them are crap but there are a few jewels (all in English) that I like ie. CCTV News, Russia Today, ABC News One (1&2), lots of overseas sports (Soccer, Rugby, Aussie Rules Football), Ebru TV (a great channel), Montana PBS (the best), Tuff TV, CNC World (My fav news channel), and of course QVC and things like that. There are lot of great wild feeds that pop in and out, and you can generally find sporting events in a wild feed (NFL, NHL, NASCAR, etc).... I have a small C/Ku system (6') and have less than $500 in everything...

Lastly, you want your content from the net. Apple TV is just one way, ROKU, or a home media server. - there's lots of options. No one is better than the other IMO. It's what works for you. I chose ROKU and have never looked back. I run PLEX on the ROKU with an old Dual Core PC which runs fantastic. I even like the FREE ROKU stuff (Crackle, the old movie channels, NASA etc)

I cut the cord 2 years ago now and have never missed anything. The only thing I pay for is streaming Netflix. What I have may not work for you, but I strongly suggest that everyone plan out their entire system before just starting buying stuff.....

Being cable free is great. You see a lot you would never have a chance to see normally, and save tons of cash!
 
Until you can sign up explicitly within the 'apps' theres no point to adding these channels as you already need a cable subscription with your TV so you may as well watch them on that?!

Just use your friend's account already:D

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What is the point of Apple adding all these channels?

Every time one tries to see any content, most of these companies want you to sign-up and provide all kinds of personal information to sign up to watch mostly mediocre offerings.

Take PBS, for instance. Not only they requested I sign with my Social Media account, such as Google +, but they wanted also to know your birthday, gender and so on!

Go figure!

No one forces you to give correct information.
 
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