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I didn't like the adult apps before because the were often miss-categorized but now I'm fine with them. Especially, since parental controls can be turned on. Though, I question what kind of person would let their child have a handheld computer with always-on internet in the first place. A nano or a shuffle and a Nintendo DS Lite (the DSi has a browser) are a far more appropriate options for young children IMO.

I don't understand how anyone can call these apps smut or filth. I can go to the beach or get a copy of most magazines on the newsstand and see more of a woman's body than what was shown in most of them. Even the Playboy app does not contain full female nudity. As others have pointed out, Safari and Google offers far more explicit content on the device...
 
I have an aunt who's a 4th grade teacher and when teaching her kids about Washington DC, they accidentally went to whitehouse.com instead of white.gov.
How is that Apple's problem or my problem or anyone's problem but your technologically challenged aunt? You say it's accidental but all I see is blatant negligence on the part of your aunt for not locking down the computer with filtering software or at least checking the site on her own before taking the kids there. If she doesn't know how computers work or what's on the Internet then she should either take a class herself or stop teaching concepts she scarcely understands herself. If parents and teachers want more customized control options for Safari I'm all for it, but when they try to control what other adults can install on their own phones it's time for them to chill out and stop trying to turn the whole world into Disney World.

I don't think she meant her personally, but rather women in general. Several people like to generalize.
Just like some people never mature to the point of understand the concept of self and thus cannot understand the need to take personal responsibility for their own children. If you can't control it then don't give it to your kids to play with in the first place. Seems simple enough to me.
 
Just what the App Store needs.... another layer of confusion.

I don't understand your type. You'll complain no matter what they do. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Apple allowed the explicit apps to exist to keep people happy, but they weren't. So to fix it they removed the explicit apps because they didn't want them appearing all over the front of the store in order to (you guessed it) make people happy. But that didn't work either. So now they're offering the best of both worlds and allowing the apps to exist, only this time under a new category that won't be seen by the masses but is still easily accessible and won't offend the wrong people. And yet you still find a reason to complain.

Well, let's hear you incredible idea then. Because apparently, you have this whole thing figured out. Gosh, I don't know why Apple doesn't just go ahead and hire you. :rolleyes:
 
I am not advocating doing everything like they were in the old days. For all the faults you mention, parents who use methods like mine do not have to deal with sexting, teenage VD or pregnancy, or substance abuse.

Your methods do not guarantee that you won't have to deal with sexting, teenage VD or pregnancy, or substance abuse. Sorry to break it to you.

If one of your children ever does have one of those issues, I just hope that you're not creating such an environment where they are afraid to come to you for help and instead have to suffer with it on their own.
 
I don't understand your type. You'll complain no matter what they do. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Apple allowed the explicit apps to exist to keep people happy, but they weren't. So to fix it they removed the explicit apps because they didn't want them appearing all over the front of the store in order to (you guessed it) make people happy. But that didn't work either. So now they're offering the best of both worlds and allowing the apps to exist, only this time under a new category that won't be seen by the masses but is still easily accessible and won't offend the wrong people. And yet you still find a reason to complain.

Well, let's hear you incredible idea then. Because apparently, you have this whole thing figured out. Gosh, I don't know why Apple doesn't just go ahead and hire you. :rolleyes:

QFT

To add to this. The material that is deemed explicit in these applications wouldn't be deemed explicit in many other forms of media. The nudity shown is not full nudity and the same level of explicitness can be seen on prime time US television & PG-13 movies. The material, to my knowledge, is far from being X-rated. If there is a market for it, it should be allowed to be sold, so long as there is a way to filter it for people who don't want their children exposed to it.
 
I think what they did was remove the explicit category and added these ratings:

Prolonged Graphic or Sadistic Realistic Violence
Graphic Sexual Content and Nudity

I don't remember those two being there before.
 
I just can't wrap my head around this.

I had some guy (cab driver) telling me how terrible the iPhone was one day back when the 1st gen was out. I smarted back "do you even have one?" I honestly expected "No" but he said "Yeah and it won't play any of my videos. The stupid thing gives me an error." I thought 'great this tool can't work iTunes and blames the phone' :rolleyes: So I said let me see it. He handed it to me and it was full of web shortcuts on the screen with d*cks and sex and the thing was FULL of pron! I gave it back told him I'm not helping him and made a bee line for soap and water. I just can't imagine what the hell he does with his down time between fares.:(
 
[1]I'm just curious, how many many of you think explicit material is evil & shouldn't be allowed in the App store?

[2]How many are fine with explicit material, just make the app accept/rejection process consistent?

[3]How many of you think that since Apple owns the store, they can put whatever they want on it, screw everyone else?

[4]How many of you just don't care?

Since I don't exactly fall into your categories, I've numbered them so that I can answer easily.

1. It's not. I'm fine with it.

2. Yep.

3. The only way they're screwing anyone is by being inconsistent. It's their store and legally they can sell or not sell whatever they like so long as that material is not illegal.

4. I'm somewhat in this camp as well. I'm more bothered by the inconsistency, especially since I'm beggining the process of developing apps for the iPhone.
 
Then what is the problem?

But your kids were never unsupervised so how could they have ever installed it in the first place? Not to mention that this is a brand new category so just exclude it from their access and stop trying to control what the rest of us install. You really need to get over yourself and calm down.

I was thinking that, but it was too easy. :D


Objectifying you? Seriously? Are you posing for these apps and if so which one were you in? The ability of some overly prudish people to be personally offended by broad social trends that have absolutely nothing to do with them is truly mind boggling.

This!

I have never been able to understand how people can be offended by statements not directly targeted at them or at least statements indirectly about them, like racial slurs and the like.
 
I think what they did was remove the explicit category and added these ratings:

Prolonged Graphic or Sadistic Realistic Violence
Graphic Sexual Content and Nudity

I don't remember those two being there before.

No, these are not new. They have been there for a long time now. If you select any level other than "None" it won't let you proceed with the app submission.
 
Ok, so it's back to hating on Apple now. They really do know how to stir up a frenzy. :rolleyes:

Apple doesn't do anything, its the people who live and die by Apple that stir up frenzies and controversies.

Jobs be praised! lol
 
Apple doesn't do anything, its the people who live and die by Apple that stir up frenzies and controversies.

Jobs be praised! lol

1) remove 5000+ apps
2) make bizarre public statement
3) put back some of the apps (seemingly at random)
4) add a new app category
5) remove said app category same day

I'd say Apple did something.
 
According to Gizmodo, the new "explicit" category has been removed:http://gizmodo.com/5479497/apple-removes-explicit-option-from-itunes This has been confirmed by the developer who has contacted Apple.

:mad::confused::(


I just can't wrap my head around this.

I had some guy (cab driver) telling me how terrible the iPhone was one day back when the 1st gen was out. I smarted back "do you even have one?" I honestly expected "No" but he said "Yeah and it won't play any of my videos. The stupid thing gives me an error." I thought 'great this tool can't work iTunes and blames the phone' :rolleyes: So I said let me see it. He handed it to me and it was full of web shortcuts on the screen with d*cks and sex and the thing was FULL of pron! I gave it back told him I'm not helping him and made a bee line for soap and water. I just can't imagine what the hell he does with his down time between fares.:(

hot
 
Count me in. And where are the responses from those who said Apple had planned this all along? Yeah, right.

Also quiet: all those folks yesterday who claimed that Schiller had communicated a self-consistent and clear policy.
 
I'm too busy watching Olympic hockey to give this much thought today but I will say that Apple is not making matters better for itself for its seemingly erratic behavior on the matter.

Makes the documentary The Corporation seem all the more plausible!

From Wiki - "The documentary shows the development of the contemporary business corporation, from a legal entity that originated as a government-chartered institution meant to effect specific public functions, to the rise of the modern commercial institution entitled to most of the legal rights of a person. One theme is its assessment as a "personality", as a result of an 1886 case in the United States Supreme Court in which a statement by Chief Justice Morrison R. Waite[nb 1] led to corporations as "persons" having the same rights as human beings, based on the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The film's assessment is effected via the diagnostic criteria in the DSM-IV; Robert Hare, a University of British Columbia psychology professor and a consultant to the FBI, compares the profile of the contemporary profitable business corporation to that of a clinically-diagnosed psychopath. The documentary concentrates mostly upon North American corporations, especially those of the United States."

Dave

Go Canada!
 
I agree. They are all cheap knock-off porn apps. Make a legit porn app and put it in the explicit category. Reject all these fake porn apps. They're a waste of time.
Are you being sarcastic? Should YouTube review all videos that are uploaded to it? Should Apple review all songs that are submitted to the iTunes Store? Should the government review every bit of data that is uploaded to the interweb? Should they all reject everything that isn't of professional quality and/or "offensive"? No... Why should it be any different for a section of the App Storethat doesn't exist?

Now, once again, I wouldn't be so upset over Apple's censorship of the human body IF they allowed people to install apps that aren't from the App Store. Since they do control what people download on a device they paid for, I am upset...

Censorship ftw!


Life is so much simpler when you don't try to control the viewing preferences of others.
:eek: I agree with you for once...
 
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