Apple Adds Java SE 6 to Leopard

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    Today, Apple issued a 57MB update to Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), adding support for Java SE 6 version 1.6.0_05.
    The update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 or later, and a 64-bit Intel-based Mac. Apple had previously seeded a developer's preview of Java SE 6 for Leopard to ADC developers.

    The lack of Java 6 support when Leopard was released had received much criticism.

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  2. LukeHarrison macrumors regular

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    Ooh, good news!

    EDIT: Ah, just seen that it's Intel only, maybe not so good.
     
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    Yayyyy, new computer when I get home. Love downloading updates! Keep em comin'. :D
     
  5. nineteentwelve macrumors regular

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    I've just installed this on my MacBook. So it doesn't need a 64-bit Intel-based Mac. Just an Intel-based Mac. :confused:
     
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    Stupid question, but how does this benefit the end user?

    Just curious :)
     
  7. AnthonyKinyon macrumors regular

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    Original posting said: "The update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 or later, and a 64-bit Intel-based Mac. "

    Sounds like a decent update but how come there's no 32-bit version for early Intel Mac Mini machines, or any update for PowerPC at all, even if the system is running Leopard? Seems kind of odd that they'd just "forget about" all of those loyal users. Maybe an update for those machines is forthcoming.
     
  8. socamx macrumors 6502

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    All Core 2s (and the Xeons Apple has used so far) are 64 bit, only older Core Duo/Solo Macs aren't 64 bit Intel.
     
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    And 64 bit only :rolleyes:. This is lame Apple.

    They can run applications designed for Java SE 6, which I imagine adds new features for developers.
     
  10. damacus macrumors member

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    No PPC Version?

    Anyone have an idea why they didn't also release this for the PPC?
     
  11. Claytoniss macrumors regular

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    Yes what about the loyal PPC people! Maybe tomorrow?
     
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    Your MacBook is a Core 2 Duo surely thats a 64-bit processor?

    On another note, why did they ignore Tiger...it is a 64-bit OS after all....at least on some level
     
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Yes. Any Core 2 Mac is 64 bit.
     
  14. nineteentwelve macrumors regular

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    My mistake. You learn something new everyday, huh?
     
  15. AnthonyKinyon macrumors regular

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    Yes, all Core 2 Duo CPUs are 64-bit. Core Duo is 32-bit.
     
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    I guess because they decided it wasn't worth the effort. Every computer sold for the last year or so has been a 64bit Intel computer and will continue to be so. I guess they decided that they may as well support the computers that will be in most use in the future.
     
  17. socamx macrumors 6502

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    Maybe noting in the article which Macs are 64 bit Intel would be helpful for people, this really only applies to newer Macs and leaves a lot hanging.
     
  18. AnthonyKinyon macrumors regular

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    Well you just learned you have a 64-bit CPU instead of a 32-bit one. Free upgrade. :) Sort of. In other words, its better than you thought it was.
     
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    I doubt it shows up for computers without the required components. Anyone want to confirm or deny this for reference?
     
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    Mac Mini's before last August were 32 bit.

    Come on, this is lame, Java applications for Mac STILL won't be able to use Java 6 that was released for Windows 18 months ago, they'll be pissing off too many users still using older Macs. There is no defending this move, Java doesn't require a 64 bit processor to run.
     
  21. AnthonyKinyon macrumors regular

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    Anything Core 2 Duo or above is 64-bit Intel (IA64).

    Anything Core Duo is 32-bit Intel (IA32/x86).

    Anything Gx (G5, G4 G3) is PowerPC (PPC).

    You can check by going to the Apple Logo at the top left and clicking "About This Mac" to see what you've got.
     
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    This might be another silly question, but why wouldn't it replace the older version of Java? And why not make it the default version? Since I assume newer means better...?
     
  23. socamx macrumors 6502

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    I'm sure it doesn't, but clarification is always nice to keep confusion down.

    Doesn't show up on my dual G5 for obvious reasons though. Hopefully it'll get pushed out for all Macs.
     
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    Because some applications are version specific.

    Apple is very Microsoftian on Java (well except for the backwards compatibility)
     
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    Fair enough. I thought they stopped them earlier.

    Lame or not that is the situation.

    I don't know if you have followed the developer previews but iirc they have been 64bit Intel only too meaning PPC and 32bit Intel releases are unlikely any time soon. Hopefully I'm wrong on that.
     

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