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Apple Adds Java SE 6 to Leopard

It would be a poor show of judgement from Apple if they did forgo all the Core Duo/Solo and G4/G5 users. If Leopard is allowed to run on the machine, any updates should be made available. I will reserve judgement, however, for a few days to see if another release for the older processors is coming.
 
Cromulent said:
I don't know if you have followed the developer previews but iirc they have been 64bit Intel only too meaning PPC and 32bit Intel releases are unlikely any time soon. Hopefully I'm wrong on that.
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Yeah, but there were older ones before the latest batch weren't 64 bit only.

To be honest Apple is pretty bad for only letting the iPhone stuff work on Intel Macs rather than PPC too, but at least developers should be on Intel by now.
 
flopticalcube said:
It would be a poor show of judgement from Apple if they did forgo all the Core Duo/Solo and G4/G5 users. If Leopard is allowed to run on the machine, any updates should be made available. I will reserve judgement, however, for a few days to see if another release for the older processors is coming.
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As the latest developer releases were 64 bit only, I wouldn't hold your breath.
 
Sky Blue said:
Loyal?? You haven't bought a new mac in years! :p
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They may have more than one Mac, including Intel-based, plus they may have purchased an iPhone, newer iPod, iLife/iWork, QuickTime Pro, or other Apple software, or made purchases on iTunes. So they could be a loyal customer and not have purchased a new Mac, or could simply have more than 1 Mac. :)
 
To make it the default.....

Applications > Utilities > Java > Java Prefrences then select Java 6 SE.

It does however post a strange warning claiming safari is only a 32 bit browser so it will not use java 6.

Doesnt this make it a pointless update?
 
flopticalcube said:
It would be a poor show of judgement from Apple if they did forgo all the Core Duo/Solo and G4/G5 users. If Leopard is allowed to run on the machine, any updates should be made available. I will reserve judgement, however, for a few days to see if another release for the older processors is coming.
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I agree with you. Your statement was reasonable, fair and measured.
 
AnthonyKinyon said:
They may have more than one Mac, including Intel-based, plus they may have purchased an iPhone, newer iPod, iLife/iWork, QuickTime Pro, or other Apple software, or made purchases on iTunes. So they could be a loyal customer and not have purchased a new Mac, or could simply have more than 1 Mac. :)
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dude, i'm kidding. Chill out.
 
superted666 said:
It does however post a strange warning claiming safari is only a 32 bit browser so it will not use java 6.
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So not only does it not run on 32 bit/PPC Macs, but won't run web applets in Apple's default browser :eek:.

Does it even run 32 bit Java apps or is that not an issue.
 
That really was about time..
My bet is that Apple did not want to invest so much time into something that is quite useless. The problem with java 6 is that it still requires lots of special libraries. So I guess that Java 7 will arrive by far quicker because it is completely open source.
 
superted666 said:
Applications > Utilities > Java > Java Prefrences then select Java 6 SE.

It does however post a strange warning claiming safari is only a 32 bit browser so it will not use java 6.

Doesnt this make it a pointless update?
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Not necessarily, as many other apps can use Java (or require it) such as Limewire, Frostwire, OpenOffice and others.
 
Yuppi said:
That really was about time..
My bet is that Apple did not want to invest so much time into something that is quite useless. The problem with java 6 is that it still requires lots of special libraries. So I guess that Java 7 will arrive by far quicker because it is completely open source.
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How did you come to the conclusion that Java 6 was useless?
 
damacus said:
Anyone have an idea why they didn't also release this for the PPC?
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Because the HotSpot VM from sun favors Intel. Because Apple does not want to put resources into supporting code generation for PPC machines they no longer sell. Because the differences between 5 and 6 are not so critical that they see it as worth the effort. Those would be my guess.
 
So if Java 6 is 64-bit, is the Safari browser compiled as 64-bit now too? Otherwise would a 64-bit plug-in work in a 32-bit Safari? And if you are running a 64-bit Safari, have other plug-ins been compiled as 64-bit yet?
 
The funniest things for me "Requires Mac OS 10.5.2 at least"

Duh, that's all they've bloody given us, or has that slipped their minds.
 
Sky Blue said:
dude, i'm kidding. Chill out.
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Well good thing you are kidding, I was going to say...

Thats just my home mac. I haven't needed to do anything to it for 2 years. Runs leopard just fine. Its stable.

At work I have a Mac Pro to worry about and along with 3 other Macs but I won't run leopard on them until they fix things with adobe that they KNOW about.

I sometimes feel I am not loyal, but more of a snob when it comes to macs and who has them and what they do with them.

Whatever I am done talking....:)
 
RedTomato said:
You realise that link is from nearly THREE YEARS ago? It talks about the update from Java 4 to Java 5. We're on Java 6 now.

Whether any advice in that link is still correct is a matter of hit and miss.
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Yes I realize it is an old link. The procedure is still the same, as far as I am aware. Just because something is old doesn't mean it no longer works. :) It COULD be different but I'm not sure that it is. I was just trying to provide additional information incase it might be helpful to some. You are right though, that it may no longer pertain to OS X in Leopard.
 
Oh good.

I was worried my computer had somehow been compromised by a virus or something. I mean, Software update just popped up and told me it had already downloaded the patch and it just needed installing. Seems really weird... doesn't it normally wait for someone to approve of the downloads?

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also, I've noticed applications crashing pretty frequently recently. (Quake 4 crashed 2 days ago, required a restart. StarCraft crashed while loading yesterday, required a restart. Safari has crashed twice in the past week... it didn't require me to restart though.)

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possibly a virus disguised as a real patch? Oh well... damage is done because I've already approved of it. Maybe I should have thought of that before approving. Or maybe I've just had an unlucky week this pass week with my computer and now I'm being paranoid.
 
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