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APPLE DOESN'T WANT THESES DEVICES BACK.

They don't want them, they don't want to pay for them, they don't want to deal with them, they don't want to wipe them, clean them, refurb them, sell them, re-sell them, recycle them, junk them etc..

The only reason the trade-in programs exist is that they help sell more devices. Most folks trading in a device buy a new one, so by having a trade-in allowance, they can sell you more new stuff. Accordingly, they are not paying you what the device is 'worth'. They are paying the lowest they think you will accept and still do the deal.
Distinction without a difference.

People/corporations respond to incentives. In this case as you state, the incentive for Apple is to induce/facilitate a new purchase.

Apple has determined that all of:
  • Offering trade-ins
  • Paying for them
  • Dealing with them
  • Wiping them
  • Cleaning them
  • Refurbishing them
  • Selling them
  • Re-selling them
  • Recycling them
  • Junking them
Is worth the effort for the desired outcome. They do want the stuff back (and also want all of the associated elements above, too) because of the incentive that doing those things provides. The incentive creates the desire. Wanting the devices back for completely self-serving, ultimately net profit-generating reasons and wanting the devices back for completely benevolent selfless reasons or any other reasons are all still wanting the devices back.

What would the alternative even be? A corporation/person taking devices back for no benefit?

I agree that selling more devices is the primary, most heavily-weighted reason for the program, but the only reason? No.

The other, secondary reasons include, but are not limited to:
  • The PR value of being a “green” company in the eyes of eco-conscious consumers
  • The ability to harvest metals and other materials from recycled devices to lower future manufacturing costs
  • the brand equity of Apple providing a “we’ll take care of it for you” premium experience by taking the cognitive load + time of having to deal with an old device off the consumers’ hands
  • In service of their corporate goals for carbon neutrality
Do any/all of these (and others not listed) outweigh the reason of selling more devices? No, but that doesn’t make them completely irrelevant to the calculus the company is making. The secondary reasons are still additional reasons.
 
They dropped iPhone values? 15 PM got hit quite a bit. I assume no boost for trade-ins?
 
They promoted and increased the trade-in value of iPhones from summer until the release of the iPhone 17, but now they’ve dropped it? Good grief! I’m glad I prefer to give away my old iPhones to my family instead of trading them in.
 
"We can't give them too much of a good deal. We already gave them ProMotion and more storage on the base iPhone 17." —Tim Cook (probably)
 
Good to know about the changes in trade in values. Other than the ease of doing trade-in, it may be better to exchange old device somewhere else as one can get higher than what Apple offers.
 
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Verizon makes more from having you as a customer for a couple/few years than Apple does for the single sale. That is why the carriers can offer more.

Exactly!

Verizon doesn't make their money selling Apple iPhones or Samsung Galaxy phones.

You know that $100/month you'll be paying for the rest of your life? That's where Verizon makes their money.

The service... monthly service. Cha-ching!

😎
 
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Yes, the "old" trade-in values quoted in the article were the values from just before the iPhone 17 line's launch, not the prices that were in effect yesterday. For example, yesterday an iPhone 13 Pro Max and iPhone 14 Pro both had trade-in values of $320; today they are both $300. Steep drop from earlier in the summer ($370 and $380 respectively), but not from the last month's prices.

So phones dropped in value after the new ones came out. Who'd have thought.
 
Chip prices went up.... trade-in value goes down... break even ✅
 
I guess apple doesn't think their products have very good resale value anymore...
 


Apple today updated its trade-in values for select iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch models. Trade-ins can be completed on Apple's website, or at an Apple Store.

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The charts below provide an overview of Apple's current and previous trade-in values in the U.S., according to its website. Maximum values for most devices either decreased or saw no change, but the iPad Air received a slight bump.

In addition to the changed values, Apple has stopped accepting 12-inch MacBook trade-ins.

iPhone

iPhone ModelNew ValuesOld Values
iPhone 16 Pro MaxUp to $670Up to $700
iPhone 16 ProUp to $550Up to $580
iPhone 16 PlusUp to $450Up to $470
iPhone 16Up to $420Up to $450
iPhone 15 Pro MaxUp to $470Up to $630
iPhone 15 ProUp to $400Up to $500
iPhone 15 PlusUp to $330Up to $440
iPhone 15Up to $310Up to $400
iPhone 14 Pro MaxUp to $370Up to $455
iPhone 14 ProUp to $300Up to $380
iPhone 14 PlusUp to $240Up to $300
iPhone 14Up to $220Up to $290
iPhone SE (3rd generation)Up to $80Up to $100
iPhone 13 Pro MaxUp to $300Up to $370
iPhone 13 ProUp to $230Up to $300
iPhone 13Up to $180Up to $250
iPhone 13 miniUp to $150Up to $200
iPhone 12 Pro MaxUp to $220Up to $280
iPhone 12 ProUp to $160Up to $220
iPhone 12Up to $130Up to $170
iPhone 12 miniUp to $90Up to $120
iPhone SE (2nd generation)Up to $50Up to $50
iPhone 11 Pro MaxUp to $150Up to $180
iPhone 11 ProUp to $130Up to $150
iPhone 11Up to $100Up to $130
iPhone XS MaxUp to $100Up to $120
iPhone XSUp to $70Up to $90
iPhone XRUp to $80Up to $100
iPhone XUp to $60Up to $60
iPhone 8 PlusUp to $50Up to $60
iPhone 8Up to $40Up to $45


iPad

iPad ModelNew ValuesOld Values
iPad ProUp to $695Up to $695
iPad AirUp to $415Up to $400
iPadUp to $175Up to $190
iPad miniUp to $255Up to $275


Mac

Mac ModelNew ValuesOld Values
MacBook ProUp to $760Up to $770
MacBook AirUp to $540Up to $550
MacBookNo longer acceptedUp to $60
iMacUp to $375Up to $490
iMac ProUp to $240Up to $385
Mac miniUp to $380Up to $395
Mac StudioUp to $1,030Up to $1,140
Mac ProUp to $2,520*Up to $550

* Given the significant increase to this value, it could be a typo by Apple.

Apple Watch

Apple Watch ModelNew ValuesOld Values
Apple Watch Series 10Up to $160Up to $175
Apple Watch Ultra 2Up to $335Up to $335
Apple Watch Series 9Up to $125Up to $130
Apple Watch UltraUp to $245Up to $255
Apple Watch Series 8Up to $95Up to $100
Apple Watch SE (2nd generation)Up to $60Up to $60
Apple Watch Series 7Up to $65Up to $70
Apple Watch Series 6Up to $50Up to $55
Apple Watch SE (1st generation)Up to $30Up to $35
Apple Watch Series 5Up to $25Up to $30
Apple also adjusted its trade-in values for select Android smartphones.

Article Link: Apple Adjusts Trade-In Values for iPhones, iPads, Macs, and More
That’s more than a little annoying. I was about to trade in old iPad Pro and buy a new iPad through Amazon. The price dropped quite significantly.

I guess I will sell it on to someone else.
 
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I’m glad I prefer to give away my old iPhones to my family instead of trading them in.
This is exactly what I do.

Because I seriously enjoy buying various iPhones and Androids for the experience and variety, I always have phones to share with family members.

The only exception was last year when purchasing my iPhone 16 Pro Max and all family members were covered I did trade my 15 Pro Max into Apple.
 
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The message is clear - the best approach is to buy absolutely as little as you possibly can. Trade in values no longer hold up.

Exactly. I currently have the base iPhone 14. I was looking at the iPhone 17s and when I saw the $220 trade in value for my 14 that is in perfect condition, I closed the browser window.
 
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This is exactly what I do.

Because I seriously enjoy buying various iPhones and Androids for the experience and variety, I always have phones to share with family members.

The only exception was last year when purchasing my iPhone 16 Pro Max and all family members were covered I did trade my 15 Pro Max into Apple.
Even upgrading your iPhone when the old iPhone isn’t compatible with iOS anymore, its trade in value is drastically lower than when it was still compatible with iOS before its last update.
 
How do Apple’s trade in values compare to other players? Is this typical MR forums knee jerk or a thing? I’m developing an odd syndrome lately, NBS.
Behavior of companies and tariffs are the triggers. Not Buying Sh*t unless necessary for awhile.
 
How do Apple’s trade in values compare to other players? Is this typical MR forums knee jerk or a thing? I’m developing an odd syndrome lately, NBS.
Behavior of companies and tariffs are the triggers. Not Buying Sh*t unless necessary for awhile.
Apple's the only brand I know of that's got a large established secondary market, with a lot of people cycling through their new purchases faster because they expect to be able to unload them on someone else later, and treat them equipment rentals or leases. I'm sure it affects how many people buy just what they need and will actually use vs. the shiniest shiny.

I don't think Apple's known for giving the highest value for trade-in, but they're the fallback position and they have the big contracts with wireless carriers and retailers to supply Apple-certified refurbs, so they probably set the price floor. Imagine if they suddenly stopped buying back entirely for a while, what would happen to that secondary market as people rush to other retailers willing to buy back, and then to markets where people have to haggle with individuals; the sudden influx would cause the prices to tumble. Well, they don't stop, but they do revise their offers from time to time.
 
How do Apple’s trade in values compare to other players? Is this typical MR forums knee jerk or a thing? I’m developing an odd syndrome lately, NBS.
Behavior of companies and tariffs are the triggers. Not Buying Sh*t unless necessary for awhile.
Apple's Trade-In Values have tanked, against their own track record.

What I'm seeing is it's near impossible to get my old 15 Pro Max sold on eBay or Swappa. Just won't move. Economy is at a standstill, I think.
 
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