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Welp the leaving a mark thing sure is working, you’re here pissed off about it all!
I'm certainly not "pissed off" about something so inconsequential, but your reply certainly has all the hallmarks of MAGA nonsense - avoid acknowledging that you were clearly wrong and make up stuff you know nothing about to distract from the fact that you were clearly wrong.

The best and worst presidents in our history have left strong marks on the world. History will be the ultimate judge!
Better to judge now while we can still do something about it.
 
First I applaud your commitment to the Constitution as it was written, and allowing me to own as many firearms as I like, and and any type. Pistol braced, semi automatic, automatic, 10 round, 30 round, 100 round magazines, the options are practically endless. Amen brother.

Second, Google is not "free." There are many costs to using the service; brain rot, dumbification, and privacy are a few costs of using the service.

I use the laughing emoji in response to the latest 6 week news cycle catch phrase, "CoNsTiTuTiOnAl CRiSiS 🤪." I laugh at the liberal hivemind, that has no understanding what the 14th amendment is, or how it came to be. I don't know how old you are, but even in the earliest days of the department of education, it has always been taught as one of many outcomes of the Civil War. Where ironically, democrats were forced to recognize slaves and their children as citizens of the United States.

Just as you cannot steal millions of dollars, and give it to your children and expect them to be able to keep that money. You cannot enter a country illegally, have a baby and expect to gain the benefits of becoming a U.S. citizen. To expect otherwise is insane. Otherwise literally every person in the world can become a U.S. citizen (Which by the way, if this is such a horrible place to be, why are people coming from around the world just so they can have a baby here?)

Law already exists. No Constitutional Convention is needed.

So now that we established rectifing the last 4 years of illegal immigration is not "a CoNsTiTuTiOnAl CRiSiS 🤪" please give an example of one that you think we are in. 😁
I am not surprised your “argument” is zeroing in on the implications of the original law and why it would be bad, rather than addressing the actual issue I brought up.

The wording of the Constitution is such that it applies to all individuals, regardless of the original intention (which I am very aware that it was originally intended to guarantee full citizenship to free slaves), it’s been interpreted and upheld in court that it applies to all individuals.

You’ve done exactly what I expected - zeroed in on the theoretical of the example, instead of actually understanding why the approach to address it is wrong. Everything you said about birthright citizenship and why it’s bad or whatever is irrelevant because the issue is that you can’t just go above board because you think it’s the right thing to do.

The problem is that we have an entire process for updating the constitution and an entire governing body to determine the correct interpretation. If America wants birthright citizenship to end then they can do that - I am completely unaffected entirely - but you don’t do that by just having the President decide so.

It’s completely apolitical - saying that the President has the authority to single-handedly override the constitution, esp. when the current interpretation has been upheld, is dangerous. Imagine if Joe Biden or whoever you want to pick signed an EO that heavily modified the 2nd amendment beyond his executive powers? I’m sure you would suddenly be in the camp of “the constitution needs to be followed!” would you not? Is the President operating above the Constitution only okay if it’s someone or something you like? Because that’s very much how it’s sounding.

I don’t feel like engaging in this any further but I would never support the President operating outside the scope of the executive office no matter who it is or what it’s for.

It’s also very telling you bring up the “Um ackshully, democrats wanted slaves 🤓☝️” because any basic US history class shows the affinities and political stances of the parties have swapped several times over the decades. Both parties in the 1800s are not what they are today. The democrats who supported slavery (Dixiecrats) would align with modern republican politics more than modern democrat ones. You’re intentionally leaving out context.

I’m also not a liberal. I am completely politically independent and make my judgements based on who is actually going to benefit Americans of all types and who will respect the law. Just so happens there’s a lot less (R)s at the federal level willing to do so.
 
I just spent half an hour on the phone with AppleCare, including speaking with a higher-tier support rep, to register my deep concern about this. I talked to them about 1984, and mind control that involves changing words and their meanings, dropping words from our lexicon, etc. I explained that this is an international body of water, every other country on Earth calls it the Gulf of Mexico, and up until a few days ago, this is what it's been called in the U.S.

Please register your dissatisfaction with this move to Apple, either on the phone or using their feedback page: https://www.apple.com/feedback/
 
I just spent half an hour on the phone with AppleCare, including speaking with a higher-tier support rep, to register my deep concern about this. I talked to them about 1984, and mind control that involves changing words and their meanings, dropping words from our lexicon, etc. I explained that this is an international body of water, every other country on Earth calls it the Gulf of Mexico, and up until a few days ago, this is what it's been called in the U.S.

Please register your dissatisfaction with this move to Apple, either on the phone or using their feedback page: https://www.apple.com/feedback/
I'm not sure what the point is there. The only thing worse than 45 renaming things for his own ego would be tech companies ignoring the official names for political reasons.
 
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This is the New Apple.
Kiss the ring.jpg
 
The official name of this international body of water is The Gulf of Mexico.
Geographical names can still be dictated by country’s governments. They all have boards like the GNIS.

This isn’t even the first thing that shares an international border that has different names depending on where you’re at. Ever heard of the Rio Grande? Yeah that’s not what they call it in Mexico and several other countries.

This isn’t a new phenomena and we’ve had both liberal and conservative presidents in the past rename things without other countries following. You’ve just fallen for an unnecessary and unimportant controversy.

The person you called at AppleCare is likely someone chilling at home, probably contracted, just playing on their phone until you hang up because they have literally zero power to influence the company. They’re as powerful as a part-time worker at Walmart. Anyone they share your thoughts with will go nowhere.
 
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The official name of this international body of water is The Gulf of Mexico.
Not in the United States. I dislike what 45/47 did, but he appears to have followed the law when he did it. I'll certainly never refer to it as anything other than the Gulf of Mexico.
 
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I'm actually formally qualified (degree + professional accreditation + society membership) to interpret the raw data and papers on the matter, which I have done and it's within reasonable bounds even after elimination of false reports. So yes.

What to you know about excess deaths?

Probably nothing.
Wow, I did not know that you were formally qualified. My sincere apologies. What were the number of deaths from the flu in those years?

You should probably look up actual historical authoritarianism before you make any comments. Real authoritarianism is saying things like “put this mask on or else!”
While I agree completely, it was worse than that. Never forget the, “Inject this experimental something in to your body or else!”

Why don't you ask the clown with a sharpie to bring the prices down then? He did promise to do that on day one.
Instead he's more occupied with pissing off Canadians, renaming the gulf and buying Greenland since the 20th.
Don't make excuses for broken promises. Hold them accountable.
The process to bring down the prices started on day one.

I reported an error on the iPhone App, that the Gulf of Mexico was missing.
🤣

I am not surprised your “argument” is zeroing in on the implications of the original law and why it would be bad, rather than addressing the actual issue I brought up.

The wording of the Constitution is such that it applies to all individuals, regardless of the original intention (which I am very aware that it was originally intended to guarantee full citizenship to free slaves), it’s been interpreted and upheld in court that it applies to all individuals.

You’ve done exactly what I expected - zeroed in on the theoretical of the example, instead of actually understanding why the approach to address it is wrong. Everything you said about birthright citizenship and why it’s bad or whatever is irrelevant because the issue is that you can’t just go above board because you think it’s the right thing to do.

The problem is that we have an entire process for updating the constitution and an entire governing body to determine the correct interpretation. If America wants birthright citizenship to end then they can do that - I am completely unaffected entirely - but you don’t do that by just having the President decide so.

It’s completely apolitical - saying that the President has the authority to single-handedly override the constitution, esp. when the current interpretation has been upheld, is dangerous. Imagine if Joe Biden or whoever you want to pick signed an EO that heavily modified the 2nd amendment beyond his executive powers? I’m sure you would suddenly be in the camp of “the constitution needs to be followed!” would you not? Is the President operating above the Constitution only okay if it’s someone or something you like? Because that’s very much how it’s sounding.

I don’t feel like engaging in this any further but I would never support the President operating outside the scope of the executive office no matter who it is or what it’s for.

It’s also very telling you bring up the “Um ackshully, democrats wanted slaves 🤓☝️” because any basic US history class shows the affinities and political stances of the parties have swapped several times over the decades. Both parties in the 1800s are not what they are today. The democrats who supported slavery (Dixiecrats) would align with modern republican politics more than modern democrat ones. You’re intentionally leaving out context.

I’m also not a liberal. I am completely politically independent and make my judgements based on who is actually going to benefit Americans of all types and who will respect the law. Just so happens there’s a lot less (R)s at the federal level willing to do so.
Long way to say, you are right but I still want to argue and make stuff up. The parties never "swapped." 🙄 Yes, under Woodrow Wilson the democrats learned that they could buy the black vote. (He actually called them something else. Was he a democrat or Republican? 🤔) And it worked well for decades, but fortunately that gravy train is coming to an end and people are finally starting to catch on to the grift.
 
But it was actually the Vikings that discovered America.
The relatives of Leif Ericson will soon claim 'their property'and call it the Gulf of Scandinavia 😀
 
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Someone else that missed the news the Biden administration culled millions of chickens on their way out the door. Maddow didn't fill you in on that one?
Of course, the chickens were culled under the same policy the existed under 45.

Weird how 45 supporters seem to understand that the economy can be affected by what happened in the previous administration. But they pretend to not understand that inflation under Biden was primarily a result of the pandemic.
 
But it was actually the Vikings that discovered America.
The relatives of Leif Ericson will soon claim 'their property'and call it the Gulf of Scandinavia 😀
Pretty sure Native Americans got here before the Vikings. :)
 
How tragically it seems, I'm glad for Tim as he seems to have find a higher meaning then satisfying the stockholders in his life now - to kiss the ring.

Pretty sure Native Americans got here before the Vikings. :)
Oh yeah, they have got plenty of validation from it too, haven't they?
Would gladly see them receive more honor in their land.
The Wikings were explorers before conquerors, so they would never fight the Native Americans rights.
 
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Long way to say, you are right but I still want to argue and make stuff up. The parties never "swapped." 🙄 Yes, under Woodrow Wilson the democrats learned that they could buy the black vote. (He actually called them something else. Was he a democrat or Republican? 🤔) And it worked well for decades, but fortunately that gravy train is coming to an end and people are finally starting to catch on to the grift.
I can tell you’re the kind of person who has decided what’s true simply based on how you feel. Basic history lessons combat what you say, but I’m assuming maybe they were missed?

Good luck and God bless sir. You’ll need it if you interpreted anything said as “I agree but want to argue”.
 
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He's done zilch to bring the prices of groceries down. His whole campaign was that he's the only one to bring the prices down and on day one. All we'd seen was pettiness and vindictiveness.
That was a small part. The biggest part he got voted in for, he's doing on a massive scale. Massive illegal immigrant deportation, cutting the most useless stuff from the government. Sorry for all of those Iraqi Sesame Street fans, but you'll have to pay for your own kid shows now.
 
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Of course, the chickens were culled under the same policy the existed under 45.

Weird how 45 supporters seem to understand that the economy can be affected by what happened in the previous administration. But they pretend to not understand that inflation under Biden was primarily a result of the pandemic.
So in 4 years the market never recovered? And in fact got worse every year Biden was in office. And not only eggs, but everything else? Weird how 46 supporters seem acknowledge the inflation when Biden was in office was due to Biden policies. That's like Biden claiming record job growth after the world was shut down.

I can tell you’re the kind of person who has decided what’s true simply based on how you feel. Basic history lessons combat what you say, but I’m assuming maybe they were missed?

Good luck and God bless sir. You’ll need it if you interpreted anything said as “I agree but want to argue”.
Again, just like your kids don't get to keep the money you stole while robbing a bank, illegal aliens don't give birth to American citizens being here illegally.

I'm the kind of person that understands history. Things don't change simply because you want them to.

Good luck and God bless sir. You’ll need it if you think you get to break the law AND keep the rewards after you are caught.
 
Again, just like your kids don't get to keep the money you stole while robbing a bank, illegal aliens don't give birth to American citizens being here illegally.

I'm the kind of person that understands history. Things don't change simply because you want them to.

Good luck and God bless sir. You’ll need it if you think you get to break the law AND keep the rewards after you are caught.
Just for others: notice how once again, the actual topic (no person should be able to override or operate above the constitution) is being ignored, and instead ethics and morality of the example (birthright citizenship) is all being talked about, despite birthright citizenship never being a point of discussion or debate, and was instead used as an example of a scenario where the rules of updating the Constitution are not being followed.

Notice how the argument is just an attempt to assign me to the stance of birthright citizenship being good (which I've not taken a stance on) and attempting to take a morally superior position about it, which again, was never the actual topic of discussion and is completely irrelevant to my actual point.
 
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