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Apple adopting Merom (Core 2 Duo) Processors?

BenRoethig said:
I always expected the four existing lines to go merom. It's pretty much a firmware update away from using existing hardware and the form factors used are more geared towards lower power chips.
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this might be likely, but i doubt it right away and all at the same time
 
kallaway1 said:
are people not expecting merom to go immediately into the macbook as well? i don't see a reason for apple to purposely gimp their best-selling notebook when a merom chip is supposed to cost the same as its yonah counterpart.
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Why not? They did it with the iBooks for quite some time...
 
Man, and I got an iMac in late June because I was told they wouldn't get Merom's into iMacs until 2007.

🙁

I can still drop one in, can't I?
 
the news say intel has already made small shipment last month enough for product launches, .. in september.. apple will expect large shipment.

so this means launching at wwdc, available in september
 
peeInMyPantz said:
the news say intel has already made small shipment last month enough for product launches, .. in september.. apple will expect large shipment.

so this means launching at wwdc, available in september
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if this is true, then looks like i might be stuck with a 32-bit Macbook 😱 unless i can make myself wait........nah
 
kallaway1 said:
are people not expecting merom to go immediately into the macbook as well? i don't see a reason for apple to purposely gimp their best-selling notebook when a merom chip is supposed to cost the same as its yonah counterpart.
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I think the very last machine to get it will be the bottom end MacBook and slowest Mac Mini. There is no reason why they could not offer both Yonah and Merom in the same systems since they are the same sockets. With the discounted Yonah or Core Solo they could hit there $499 price point on the mini and $899 for the Core Duo white MacBook. The Black MacBook will see Merom near the same time as MBP. They may wait 3 weaks or so to see if the Merom supply can meet demand.
 
peeInMyPantz said:
the news say intel has already made small shipment last month enough for product launches, .. in september.. apple will expect large shipment.

so this means launching at wwdc, available in september
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Or perhaps it means enough chips to sell a few thousand (or hundred, I'm just going out on a limb here! 😀 ) initially, and then mass produce in Sept to keep up with the demand?

Either way, I want to see them available in August...I can't wait any more. I've waited a year and a half! Of course, I didn't need one up until August, anyway. 😛
 
Yes! This Would Favor Steve Announcing Full Line Shift To Core 2 ASAP Monday

kallaway1 said:
are people not expecting merom to go immediately into the macbook as well? i don't see a reason for apple to purposely gimp their best-selling notebook when a merom chip is supposed to cost the same as its yonah counterpart.
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Yes! This Would Favor Steve Announcing Full Line Shift To Core 2 ASAP Monday. My favorite scenario may come true. 🙂
 
AJ Muni said:
MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great!
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I'm gonna go on record and say they will NOT intro new MBP at wwdc. Some sales of the current MBP are better than none and if they they intro a new one they will not sell any and probably just take pre orders. Not gonna happen. They will wait until late August or early September to announce them when they are actually ready.
 
tristan said:
Wow! Tip of the hat to Apple and Intel. But why aren't the Blue Man on my TV selling the Core 2 Duo? Somebody tell them to put the LSD away and get to a studio.

And of course, nobody's talking about the elephant in the room. These new chips are SIXTY FOUR BIT BABY. Is 32-bit the new G4? Cuz we all know the G4 is the new G3.

64-bit OSX by the end of the year perhaps? With quadruple binaries to support the G4, the G5, the Core Duo, and the Core Duo 2? Or will Apple deny us our 64-bit freedom?
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64 Bit has been talked alot about. There is a thread called 64 Bit Core Duo (why not core 2 duo, I don't know) acctually I think, but I know nothing about it so I can't comment. It won't make 32 bit things even close to G4. 64 Bit, from what i've read, isn't really optimized until two things: the operating system is ready to manage it, and the software is designed for it. The Core 2 duo will be faster than the core duo, but for multiple reasons and not only on the 64 bit computing.
 
Multimedia said:
Yes! This Would Favor Steve Announcing Full Line Shift To Core 2 ASAP Monday. My favorite scenario may come true. 🙂
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didn't i read this exact same thing earlier today?

anyways, i hope your right, but for some reason i don't think it will. only time will tell.....
 
Steve Can Announce Core 2 Shift Across The Board ASAP Without Announcing Any New Macs

jholzner said:
I'm gonna go on record and say they will NOT intro new MBP at wwdc. Some sales of the current MBP are better than none and if they they intro a new one they will not sell any and probably just take pre orders. Not gonna happen. They will wait until late August or early September to announce them when they are actually ready.
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Steve does not have to announce any new products to say they are going to shift to Core 2 across the board ASAP. 🙂
 
This is great and bad at the same time for me. I'm so happy that they'll finally move to Merom. However, I've been holding off an MBP since mid-April. I was really hoping to get one after WWDC. If it's true that they may launch it in September, I may not be able to get it in time for school, and the ipod rebate may be over.
 
Multimedia said:
...Steve Announcing Full Line Shift To Core 2 ASAP Monday. My favorite scenario may come true. 🙂
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ahhh, I share your dream! even if merom is only in the mid-level whitebook and the blackbook, i'd be fine with that - as long as they don't make me wait to get the chip I want in the enclosure I'm lusting after 😀
 
WildCowboy said:
Why not? They did it with the iBooks for quite some time...
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Yes, but the G3 was a more power efficient chip than the G4, while the opposite is true of the Core vs the Core2. Apple should put Core2 chips in the MacBooks ASAP, if only for the power saving. And Apple should also try to maximize the percentage of its user base that is 64 bit capable prior to the release of OS X 10.5, which should be 64 bit.

Don't forget that when they ship, the Core2 chips will cost as much as the Core chips do now. So, if Apple doesn't upgrade the MacBooks to Core2 or drop their prices, it will start to look like it is less competitive in pricing again.
 
Please apple what ever you do. Don't leave me stuck with a Merom MBP at 2.16... we need the 2.33!!
 
ImAlwaysRight said:
Merom in the MBP for sure. Now.

Apple is showing "64-bit" in the one banner.
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That banner is showing Apple's existing products, not future products. The 64 bit logo is no doubt referring to the current line of G5 machines.

Chris
 
Faster upgrades

I wondered, when Apple announced it was switching to Intel, if it would affect the upgrade cycle. Intel releases new chips often and companies like Dell ship them almost immediately. Apple has historically waited a long time before updating a product; but are they now going to be forced to keep pace to remain competitive? I think they will have to now. I expect speed bumps to their products to happen more frequently. It wouldn't surprise me to see the MBP get the new Core 2 Duo chips next week. (even though I just bought one last week 🙁 )
 
treblah said:
AnandTech to the rescue!


Cliffs: 15 to 20% faster, exact same battery life. 🙂
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First off... Man that was thorough...

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AnandTech said:
For Apple users this means that early adopters of the new MacBook or MacBook Pro won't be too pressured to upgrade again by the end of this year. Of course Apple has this way of making incremental changes irresistible.
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So true...

What makes me wonder is how did CNET get 5 hours so easily you think? Or is the Core Duo easily to get 5 hours I wonder. I know CNET isn't this thorough though so...
 
Multimedia said:
Steve does not have to announce any new products to say they are going to shift to Core 2 across the board ASAP. 🙂
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That's very true but my response wasn't to that statement but to this one:

"MBP Merom anyone? Appleinsider has always been reliable...so this may happen. This WWDC is gonna be great!"

I assumed that WWDC is going to be great because of MPB Merom which I don't think will be announced. 😛

I could be wrong.
 
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