So you think that Apple reduced the number of sensors so it had to cover more warranty claims?
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Apple Agrees to Pay $95 Million to Settle Lawsuit Claiming Refurbished Devices Aren't 'Equivalent to New' [Updated]
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I've never said that reducing or moving water indicators is a strategy for that. Warranty is not the point here.
They want to protect themselves from warranty claims of course but they still can never be sure a used phone has had no water/oxide damage. Never. You can be sure with new phones. ...so they're lying.
Can we agree on that or do you want to post some other 8 years old site about the iPhone 4S?
Well here is the 12 Pro Max's SIM tray sensor which you are convinced doesn't exist.
It was probably repaired with parts from another phone that had defective parts but not the part that was used for the repair.
I don’t want a world of electronic waste just because you don’t want to have your phone repaired with used parts that meet the same specs as a new part.
And why do another car analogy after you claimed that theses analogies do not work? Anyway..if the part was in a flood but afterwards meets the same specs as the same part in unused condition then yes, it should be used and not waisted.
But as you said yourself: that car analogy does not fit.
And I want my expensive phone repaired with new parts not used possibly water exposed parts. If the water tags are red it’s water damaged. Plain and simple. Should be disposed of
So it comes down to your personal preference without any reason or sense.
I hope Apple will never be forced to leave their currant policy that is by far environment friendlier.
No it comes down to using new not used parts. Personal preference? Sure but I have a reason.
Hindsight.
. I should have but I lived with that **** phone for about total 5 years since I got it new and replaced. Waiting Nov for the 13pro now. I hope I will fare better with that one.I sued Verizon for exactly this. I purchased a new phone, it had a manufacturing defect. This is terribly inconvenient and disappointing in the first place, and for my being inconvenienced, Verizon decided to punish me for having the audacity to receive a broken product.
When I explained that other customers who bought a new device, received a new device in perfect condition, and I was not sure why I did not deserve the same. I explained that the value of what they were giving me was a couple hundred dollars less, and they were not refunding the difference in price. In essence, I paid the new price for a refurbished product.
Verizon explained that all of their other customers had long ago accepted it, and because of this, it was now "industry standard". See folks, when you accept less,it's just a matter of time when you'll have little choice but to accept less. All the squawking about "not wasting your valuable time" is music to the ears of these big companies.
Fortunately, the judge agreed with me, and I finally got what I should have gotten all along, but it was a Small Claims case and thus set no precident.
So when you wonder how big companies get away with this stuff, look anywhere you want, but don't look at me. While you're watching American Idol or Monday Night Football, I'm learning how to navigate the local court system, and fighting back when it makes sense to do so. I'm one of the very few people who's fault it isn't.
Have a thumbs up and a amazed face too.
I have always wondered how difficult it is to sue a company or service. This era is touted as one with lawsuits flying left and right yet I know no one personally that has done so, your comment stood out because of exactly that. I haven’t even bothered googling how-to of that.
I personally have eaten dirt a few too many times because:
- literally no time or energies to waste (if most of the time I don’t have time to lunch, then for sure no time for hours on end on services discussions),
- or the problem is for the time being very minor
- or just don’t know how to proceed.
But I totally agree that even if the situation is negligible it moves the needle a little bit for setting a new checkpoint to see how farther a company or service can push boundaries and get away with it.
I understand that sometimes people sue for the most crazy things and get away with millions (usually those that already had the millions to begin with) but for the on foot average citizen on a legit case, how does starting suing a company looks like? And was it difficult and strenuous? Or more “collect file here, send there” as required.
Say, what if I want to sue my cellphone company for say, mistakenly overcharging fees which requires having to call and ask for refunds?
Time permitting, just a basic for the crucial first step is enough: like if I go and look for a lawyer online as it needs to start with a lawyer first or can start on my own?
most of the time a company will just cave when they are clearly in the wrong, but it appears Verizon was fairly confident you would just back away.
I had a similar experience with seagate and after a few back and forth emails they finally agreed that maybe sending me a refurb when a brand new drive I purchased was DOA out of the box was not okay.
I had a similar experience with seagate and after a few back and forth emails they finally agreed that maybe sending me a refurb when a brand new drive I purchased was DOA out of the box was not okay.
So - maybe there is a different thread - but I got an email yesterday - offering me payment for this case. Anyone else get it?
Same here… $14.45, I don’t think so. This is the problem with lawsuits. Lawyers make millions and the actual person allegedly harmed gets a few dollars. I suspect claiming this means my information will be on some database that’s sold.
Just don’t spend it all in one place because that’s a lot of money 😂😂
You must’ve had two replacements. I think that’s what they’re going by with the amount.
My check for $14.45 arrived in the mail today. Drinks are on me!
I used to refurbish phones and when properly done, they do work just as well as new but they are still not new. If my brand new phone is defective out of the box or fails within the first month or so, I should get another brand new phone, period. If a company insists on replacing brand new phones with refurbished models, they should give the customer a partial refund to adjust their purchase price to that of a refurb.
How does that work really? My 14 Pro died in th first week and they replaced just the "rear system", I know that in some of those cases they would reuse the motherboard from another deviced that failed before, but how am I sure if it was a refurbed part or not?
Also are refurbed ones more prone to having issues?
Also are refurbed ones more prone to having issues?