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I just wish that Apple would make it easy for long time Apple users to move data from an older iPhone to a new one. For those of us who started in iTunes with a non-email "legacy" Apple ID, and purchased a ton of music using that ID, (about $7,000 worth) we are locked out of transferring data from a current iPhone to a new one using any of Apple's easier methods...
If you are actively resisting migrating your Apple ID from an arbitrary name to a fully qualified, valid email, then the issue is not with Apple. There's really no reason to maintain an Apple ID that isn't a proper, verifiable email address.
There's zero anonymity at stake: any of the online email providers allow you to create an account/email with no personal information.
 
I knew Android finally would end you with a great experience. Thanks Apple for building the "Move to iOS" app, just like Steve Jobs said "It's like giving a glass of ice water to somebody in hell!".
 
I don’t think many Android users will be interested in iOS. First of all, iPhones are expensive and the gap between both OS is decreasing.
 
I don’t think many Android users will be interested in iOS. First of all, iPhones are expensive and the gap between both OS is decreasing.

The majority of people who switch from one to the other go from Android to iOS, by about a 1.5 or 2:1 ratio. There were a bunch of statistics that came out in the Epic/Apple trial, and the number of Android->iOS switchers each year is pretty impressive.
 
Just off the very top of my head:

  • File storage / management / transferring is so easy, especially across networks
  • My morning alarm plays a song at random from my Spotify playlist
  • Once the alarm is turned off by me it kicks off a routine which turns on my bedroom lights (Hue), turns on the hot water for my shower and then reads out the weather and then the news.
  • Widgets (actually useful) once setup enable me to see information quickly and control multiple apps without having to open and enter each one
  • There is very little I cannot configure to my personal preference, especially with Nova launcher
  • I have set it so if I swipe up a folder (rather than expanding it) it opens the main app in that folder that I previously set. That is an amazing feature, I love it.
That is just a 5min reflection, there is so much that I take for granted that it can do. Like I say, few here will want to hear it, sadly, easier to chase likes by making snarky Google comments instead. That's fine, my use cases are all that matter to me and hopefully iOS and Android will continue their healthy battle and consumers like me will win.
That's a good summary. Use Nova launcher and never look back. I have a clock filling the top half of my home screen with a big, full-width sun&moon widget below that and a weather widget below that. My second screen has a full width agenda list from Outlook with a couple of app icons for productivity. I can position any of these up to 1/2 icon width. That's just not possible on iOS. The new iPadOS widgets look meh, at last, is that all they can do, compared to Novalauncher.

Also very practical is a hosts file based ad blocking. When any app requests material from an IP address that's blocked, it just doesn't go through. It's not just blocking ads for the web browser, but for the whole OS.
 
Well, Apple is making the whole Android to IOS transition smoother. Don’t really need to elaborate more if you read the article.
I can design a system that makes it really easy to smear poop in one's face if I put in the effort. Doesn't mean anyone wants to smear poop in their face.
 
Funny how Apple uses the ugliest looking Android phone to demo the Move to iOS Android App.
That's the only switch they ever get. IPhone bois who just couldn't afford an IPhone trading their K20 for an IPhone.
Nobody gives up their Galaxy for an IPhone.
 
That's the only switch they ever get. IPhone bois who just couldn't afford an IPhone trading their K20 for an IPhone.
Nobody gives up their Galaxy for an IPhone.
I tried! :) I started with a Galaxy Sii back in 2012. 2016 - Google (Huawei) Nexus 6p. Really big thing but I wanted to try a phablet to avoid having to buy a separate tablet. 2019 - got an iPad Pro anyway and the Nexus 6P's battery was dying, so I borrowed my wife's iPhone 7. There is lots to like about Apple phones, both in hardware as well as in software. But I couldn't get used to the lack of control. So I got a Galaxy S10+ and it's the best phone I ever had. The only quibble I have is that it's hard to place my finger correctly on the fingerprint sensor, as it's not indicated where it is. It's like learning the violin after playing a guitar 🤣 Aside from that - completely brilliant. Will never swap it until it's really broken.
 
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I tried! :) I started with a Galaxy Sii back in 2012. 2016 - Google (Huawei) Nexus 6p. Really big thing but I wanted to try a phablet to avoid having to buy a separate tablet. 2019 - got an iPad Pro anyway and the Nexus 6P's battery was dying, so I borrowed my wife's iPhone 7. There is lots to like about Apple phones, both in hardware as well as in software. But I couldn't get used to the lack of control. So I got a Galaxy S10+ and it's the best phone I ever had. The only quibble I have is that it's hard to place my finger correctly on the fingerprint sensor, as it's not indicated where it is. It's like learning the violin after playing a guitar 🤣 Aside from that - completely brilliant. Will never swap it until it's really broken.
I keep waffling between Android and iOS. To me there is much to like and much to hate about the iPhone, whereas I am more lukewarm about my Galaxy, for better and worse. If I had to pick one for the rest of my life it would be the Galaxy, because it gets anything done, while on the iPhone some things just won't work, because Apple. But those things that do work are usually more enjoyable than on Android.
 
Lol what? Samsung smart switch is also great.

I don’t think anything in iOS 15 would have convinced many android users to switch
 
The things that keep people on Android are:
1) price
2) they don't care what OS their phone uses
3) price
4) ubiquity
5) price
6) the people who sell them get SPIFFs
7) price
That’s about as wrong as the android fans who say only non tech people use iPhones.
 
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on the iPhone some things just won't work, because Apple. But those things that do work are usually more enjoyable than on Android.
Very true. I really loved the integration with my mac to scan documents and use the 4G through a Wi-Fi access point. Several things to make life easy. But some things you just cannot do with an iPhone.
 
The things that keep people on Android are:
1) price
2) they don't care what OS their phone uses
3) price
4) ubiquity
5) price
6) the people who sell them get SPIFFs
7) price
I do not disagree entirely. iPhone prices differ significantly between countries, and the iPhone is most popular where it is cheapest (USA and Japan). It stands to reason that the iPhone might get more buyers in other countries if it did not cost ~30% more. As the iPhone in those countries does not offer any additional functionality over its cheaper US-siblings (often less actually, considering that Apple-services tend to be a bit US-centric and iMessage is rather irrelevant globally), its value proposition may not be all that persuasive compared to Android.
 
Still no interactive widgets? iOS users don't even know what they're missing with that. I switched from iOS to Android last year when Apple banned a social media app and have loved the interactive widgets. It's a really nice feature that I think Apple is missing the boat on.

Also, I love that I can add a row and a column to my home screen. Now that I can fit more icons on one page, when I look at the iPhone it looks like a child's toy.

I'm surprised Apple hasn't added these two features, as I think they are the best aspects of Android and would prevent me from ever switching back.

I'm typing this on a Samsung 21 Ultra, and while I like it better, the hardware is close enough to not matter to me. I miss iMessage and FT, but not enough to give up my homescreen that is much more useful now.
 
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Care to elaborate? What makes you think so? Or are you just going for the post count again?
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It was the best decision for me...
 
I enjoy the Apple products I have, but trying to follow any kind of Apple news is practically unbearable. The number of absolutely insufferable pro-Apple asshats is disturbing. Literally anything that anyone mentions that could even remotely be perceived as negative brings them out. Have an opinion on how a feature could be better? Downvotes. It’s absolutely bizarre behaviour, and honestly really makes my overall Apple experience worse.
That’s where I’m at. I really like the Apple products I have. They’re great and great for a lot of use cases I have. But I’m also not afraid to criticize Apple for a lot of the straight up dumb decisions they make. I mean just look at what’s going on with the AirPods max. Pair of overpriced $550 headphones that can’t even support lossless on their own music streaming service. And yet people will still do all of these crazy mental gymnastics.

Like, it’s ok to criticize the things you enjoy. There is nothing wrong with that and it’s how things get better. I mean ffs, they are just a tech company, not a religion.

I try to open up discussions around android and windows (two platforms I equally enjoy and have use cases for) and replies are always the same; jumping on the hate train for both. It’s exhausting and I agree, that’s what makes using Apple products unbearable. They’re just products. They’re just tools and the tool that works for one is not going to work for the other.
 
Wow, haven't seen an HTC phone in a long while...

Fun fact: The HTC One M7 (2013) pictured above has a Beats logo on the back.
It’s actually a HTC One M9, which doesn’t feature a beats logo.

you can tell by the vertical sensors to the right of the speaker, and the slightly different camera design on the front.

Beats heading on HTC phones was discontinued from the M8 onwards, due to Apple purchasing beats. I believe it was replaced with either SRS or Dolby, I can’t remember.
 
Still no interactive widgets? iOS users don't even know what they're missing with that. I switched from iOS to Android last year when Apple banned a social media app and have loved the interactive widgets. It's a really nice feature that I think Apple is missing the boat on.

Also, I love that I can add a row and a column to my home screen. Now that I can fit more icons on one page, when I look at the iPhone it looks like a child's toy.

I'm surprised Apple hasn't added these two features, as I think they are the best aspects of Android and would prevent me from ever switching back.

I'm typing this on a Samsung 21 Ultra, and while I like it better, the hardware is close enough to not matter to me. I miss iMessage and FT, but not enough to give up my homescreen that is much more useful now.
Yeah very disappointing. For news widgets it’s not needed but for widgets like music/Spotify or podcasts you have to just click it and it does the same as an app icon. Least with android you can press play and pause from the widget. Same with sport scores

Also it’s a shame we still can’t place apps where we want on the Home Screen. iOS needs this
 
With Android progressing faster than iOS, and the Android phones making use of new technologies faster than iPhones, the trend of iPhone losing market share to Android phones won’t change for a long time to go.
Have you… looked at the trends? Because iPhone market share has gone up and android has gone down.
 
Sorry to dig up an old thread like this, but improving?????? That's a sick joke. Move to iOS 15 is the most risible excuse for an app I've ever seen from Apple in more than 30 years of using their products. PowerBooks, a PowerMac, a UMAX clone even, a MacBook and four MacBook Pros later, soon to be five, I had never seen anything this bad, not even System 7.5, until attempting my switch from Android for my smartphone this past week. I have wasted several hours, and no more -- I'm using the AT&T Transfer app, a rock solid reliable piece of software, and hoping like heck that my overall iPhone experience is better than this piece of garbage that is Move to iOS.

It all started on Tuesday. The 3.2 rating on the Google Play store should have been a warning, compared to the 4.6 to 4.7 ratings of the AT&T app, but undaunted (and attracted by the Apple app's promise of identifying iOS versions of my Android apps on the App Store and downloading them) I followed official Apple procedure and I began the work of transferring from the Android and initially Move to iOS seemed to work OK. At this point the phone was all set up except for the activation. But workplace complications ensued and I was unable to activate the iPhone that day, or the day after, or the day after that. When I finally went to activate, I was advised by Apple tech support to start over with a reset if I didn't want to lose text messages that had built up in the intervening few days, and here's where things rapidly went south. The phone hung on preparing..... and so they told me to reset again. Then it transferred only a tiny fraction of what it was told to do, called the job finished when by Tuesday's standard it clearly wasn't, and Apple told me to start over again. And like an idiot I did. And it hung.

So I installed the AT&T app on both phones, which is what you do with that app; the phone you're moving to scans a QR code from the one you're leaving; and it is now setting things up as I type. Unfortunately there's one feature the AT&T app does not have that Move to iOS is supposed to, and that's finding all your current Android apps or as many of them as possible on the App Store and downloading them. So while it had done that on Tuesday with impressive speed, after resets it did not do that, unless of course I'm misunderstanding something -- as a previous iPod owner I have used the iOS store so maybe it was just refreshing those, but in any case, previous iPod or not, Move to iOS or not, I'm having to do that manually where it had done it automatically on Tuesday, and I am steamed.

I truly hope this is not typical of iOS or I'm going to be back to Android in a hurry. I have to say the MacOS mothership seems to have declined over the years in quality control, but this is truly special.
 
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