No, because that is a TM of Microsoft Corporation!that’s all well and good but....does it have Windows?
No, because that is a TM of Microsoft Corporation!that’s all well and good but....does it have Windows?
Exactly. So it's a mystery why they keep spending billions on TC's pet project.Apple has never been interested in or involved with supplying components to other manufacturers and there is zero chance they are spending billions to join the myriad of companies building auto components to sell to companies.
They are already spending billions on this project. I agree with you. Of course, when the Apple Car is release there will be lines around the block to buy one.Is it just me or does anyone else kinda not like this? It seems like Apple is branching into so many areas that aren't "core" to what they used to be so good at. I know times change and Apple has incredible financial and engineering resources, but it seems like none of their recent endeavors ever quite get finished. I buy just about everything Apple comes out with so I have first-hand knowledge. iCloud Drive has never synced reliably across all my devices. I often have to save a random file to force a sync. My AirPods Pro don't connect about a third of the time I put them in my ears. I have to remove and try again. Siri is still a mess. Although I own four Homepods, I don't think they have the audio quality they should for the price. Then there was several years of the inferior butterfly keyboards. I guess I'm just becoming an old fart who doesn't want change, LOL. Just seems like going into the car business will suck up money and resources that I wish they would devote to "finishing" their existing products.
This is not happening. Digitimes has a very mixed track record and this doesn't make any sense for
Apple. The car industry is very hard to break into- Tesla almost went bankrupt- and Apple is way behind others like Waymo, Cruise and others in autonomy. Tesla is already the "Apple" of cars- verical integration, hardware+software integration, ecosystem (charging stations), charismatic CEO and cult following... what would Apple bring to the table that Tesla doesn't already offer? We know Apple is exploring autonomy- like all of Big Tech- but I don't think they're releasing their own Model S. On the other hand, licensing out a carOS to OEMs is really not their speed so I have no idea where they are going with this. But I don't think they are going to just release an autonomous EV in 2025 and manufacture it with no issues and own the market.
Magna Steyr is the OEM. They are working on the Grenadier now.I agree with your statements, historically, but Apple now offers services (TV+, Fitness to name a few) that no-one would have thought of Apple offering 5 years ago ...
IF Apple were going to make their own car, it would be electric, if you look at some of the new(er) players in that space, Rivian, Canoo, Fisker, Lucid come to mind, they are way ahead and already have or will have offerings available net year. Every traditional car manufacturer is on that bandwagon right now. That industry is going to reshape itself over the net 10 years, and it is going to be a hard fight/battle ... Apple would be a late addition, sure they have always improved and not necessarily be first, but 2024/5 is way late ...
Tesla is years ahead of everyone ... Look how long it took Tesla to get where they are today. Tesla can build a new factory in 12 months now ... Apple has always used OEMs for manufacturing, I don't know of an OEM that builds cars. Apple does not have a dealer network (for service/repair ... they could still sell at an apple store) ...
There are significant regulatory requirements that Apple is not accustomed to ...
I cannot see Apple going that way, so what are they dong in that space? The best I can think of right now, it's a new service that includes autonomous driving ...
And it will have a top speed of 50 mph to protect all the snowflakes. Also wheelies will not be allowed.Judging by the price of the recent Apple headphones, the car will start at $200,000.
The steering wheel will also attach magnetically.Maybe they will attach magnetically for easy replacement? 🤔
Will it use Windows?do you think it will still have a Lightning port? 🤪🤪
Yes, but Tesla's has been building its infrastructure for longer so they have much more fast chargers. The others are just starting. But maybe in 2025 things will be more even.Infrastructure: People seem to forgot that Tesla is not the only company building a charger network. Actually Tesla is the only company that is building an incompatible charger network while everyone else is establishing a different standard.
And to all the other arguments: I don't know how long you have been following Apple, but you sound exactly like the people in 2006 stating that Apple would "never" make a phone or be able to get into that market, because it's really competitive and hard to break into yadayadayada. The rest is history.
true, forgot about them ... this is their current portfolio, according to Wiki:Magna Steyr is the OEM. They are working on the Grenadier now.
iPod, iphone, carIt’s an iPod, a phone, a breakthrough transportation device...are you getting it???....these aren’t three devices...
The auto manufacturer's are also working on this. They saw what happened to the music industry and the film industry. They are not going to let Apple into their business.
Nope, tires will not be upgradeable. Same with brakes, shocks, headlights,...All repairs and service will need an apple dealer only.
And Tires will be SN locked to the car.
I agree with your statements, historically, but Apple now offers services (TV+, Fitness to name a few) that no-one would have thought of Apple offering 5 years ago ...
IF Apple were going to make their own car, it would be electric, if you look at some of the new(er) players in that space, Rivian, Canoo, Fisker, Lucid come to mind, they are way ahead and already have or will have offerings available net year. Every traditional car manufacturer is on that bandwagon right now. That industry is going to reshape itself over the net 10 years, and it is going to be a hard fight/battle ... Apple would be a late addition, sure they have always improved and not necessarily be first, but 2024/5 is way late ...
Tesla is years ahead of everyone ... Look how long it took Tesla to get where they are today. Tesla can build a new factory in 12 months now ... Apple has always used OEMs for manufacturing, I don't know of an OEM that builds cars. Apple does not have a dealer network (for service/repair ... they could still sell at an apple store) ...
There are significant regulatory requirements that Apple is not accustomed to ...
I cannot see Apple going that way, so what are they dong in that space? The best I can think of right now, it's a new service that includes autonomous driving
Nobody will EVER have a self-driving car.Nobody has a working self driving car yet. And it might take many more years or even decades or might need a completely new approach that someone has to find first.
This might be the most ignorant (and most factually incorrect) comment I’ve read in 2020. There is so nice thing as an easy to produce automobile. On the flip side, it took Apple 3 years to fix the worst laptop keyboard (and the doubled down) in the history of computers.As to “it’s too late,”. LOL. Electric cars are simple to produce; that’s the point (no engine, transmission, etc) and Tesla and everyone else is largely using the same component parts that are available to everyone, tires, wheels, batteries, you name it.
For self driving? It will have its benefits. Tesla's chip requires liquid cooling and they went custom because they couldn't source good enough chips from Nvidia.
In a self-driving ICE car, they'll be limited to how much power they can throw at the computational resources. In a self-driving BEV, lower power usage will translate to higher range.
True but VW and Ford, amongst others, are coming out with what seem to be good electric vehicles and they have volume manufacturing expertise and capability that Tesla does not.It’s hard to stop change.
On a side note, I think it will be difficult for any company to catch up with Tesla’s self driving technology since they are already so far ahead and gathering tons of real world data from their fleet.
For a moment I thought AppleCare+ would be much more than you are quoting.Nope, tires will not be upgradeable. Same with brakes, shocks, headlights,...
You’ll have to buy a new car unless you got AppleCare+ for $9,999.00 for two years or $499 per month.
Manufacturing vehicles is not easy, as Tesla is finding out. Last time I checked Foxconn does not manufacture cars. Most of the Chinese manufacturers rely on European technology transfer and equipment e.g. ABB and Kuka robots.Apple has been in services for many years, starting with iTunes, but that’s the besides the point, Apple’s entire company is about selling high quality experiences to consumers. They have no interest in simply manufacturing a part as you suggest and then let have someone else make an inferior product out of it. You’re thinking of a company like SamsungMoreover, to be just another wholesale supplier of a product also means doing away with those high profit margins.
As to “it’s too late,”. LOL. Electric cars are simple to produce; that’s the point (no engine, transmission, etc) and Tesla and everyone else is largely using the same component parts that are available to everyone, tires, wheels, batteries, you name it. The challenge is to be able to sell them at a profit. Tesla has hemorrhages money, has billions of debt. That’s why conventional manufacturers have shied away from producing them. Now that costs are goi g down and consumer acceptance going up, they are all slowly starting up manufacturing.
The differentiation in electric cars will be the software and the interior/exterior design—Apple can dominate both areas. They will sub out the manufacturing like they do all of their products. They don’t need a dealer network, Tesla showed that, and they are also likely to simply lease their vehicles to Uber, fleets, etc.
But they don’t have a vertically integrated supply chain. Tesla controls their entire supply chain. This is a strategic advantage.True but VW and Ford, amongst others, are coming out with what seem to be good electric vehicles and they have volume manufacturing expertise and capability that Tesla does not.
Agreed. I replied and could go into a lot more detail but chose not to.This might be the most ignorant (and most factually incorrect) comment I’ve read in 2020. There is so nice thing as an easy to produce automobile. On the flip side, it took Apple 3 years to fix the worst laptop keyboard (and the doubled down) in the history of computers.