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I have a Time Machine disk, a weekly disk image, and a Carbonite backup. Might be enough to recover from anything.

And are any of them stored off-site to protect from fire, theft, flood, earthquake, tsunami and other whims of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

"Everything" must include the contingency of total destruction of the primay site.
 
And are any of them stored off-site to protect from fire, theft, flood, earthquake, tsunami and other whims of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

"Everything" must include the contingency of total destruction of the primay site.

Isn't carbonite cloud backup?
 
Because they are greedy b******'s and couldn't wait for the money. It has nothing to do with distribution of Apple Software. If it was they would have removed all boxed software from Stores and resellers, like they do when a new OS is released.

Math:

Developer/Company:

Currently:
Development and programming, product design, packaging production, marketing, DVD and packaging production, shipping, paying retailers.

App Store:
Development and programming, graphic design for online store, wireless distribution.

Apple handles the marketing and the App Store broadens market exposure. OS X files that don't open effectively use the App Store recommendations, making it easier for the average Joe to identify files (unlike another certain OS's inability to "Find online").

Cutting out DVD production, product design, package production, shipping, saves the company a lot of money. For arguments sake, let's state 30% of those costs are cut (most likely much more as physical media production/plants/etc cost a great deal). Apple handles the marketing and distribution of the product through the App Store and charges a 30% fee. The company now has broader exposure and increased sales, more than accounting for Apple's 30% take.

The App Store is allowing more consumers access to programs they might not otherwise know. Companies such as Apple have/are lowering the programs costs and are breaking up suites such as Adobe CS5, allowing the purchase of individual applications and not unnecessary apps while facilitating immediate consumer access.

Now that downloading 1-2GB movies isn't a big deal with ISPs (OS X Lion was seeded in less than 15 minutes to developers) it's not a stretch to see where this is going: full digital wireless application distribution.

Someone stated that storing app's on your computer isn't any good if you don't have off-site storage in case of fire or other such disasters. The same would happen with physical media so that point seems moot. As well, Apple has yet to activate their new $2B server farm in N.C. with rumors of off-site media storage, taking that claim out of the equation (there are companies that currently offer off-site storage at acceptable speeds). "Time Machine" is also a great system for saving data and full system restores unlike any commercially available system to date.

There seems to be a lot of picking over semantics and not so much over facts. :)
 
Isn't carbonite cloud backup?

You're mostly right - I didn't know the details about Carbonite.

After checking, though, Carbonite backs up some of your files to the cloud - probably the most important ones, but not all. (Also, the standard version of Carbonite won't backup network or external drives, you need the "Carbonite Pro" package for that - cha-ching!)

For me, though, my uplink bandwidth (even living in the heart of Silicon Valley) isn't high enough to keep up with my daily rate of file modifications (unless the tool used advanced SIS). I put important stuff on one of a pair of 2TB (and "TB" is "TeraByte", not "ThunderBird"). After copying (to a fully encrypted file system), I take the drive to work and lock it in my desk, and bring the other drive home. Every couple of weeks or so "lather, rinse, repeat".
 
You're mostly right - I didn't know the details about Carbonite.

After checking, though, Carbonite backs up some of your files to the cloud - probably the most important ones, but not all. (Also, the standard version of Carbonite won't backup network or external drives, you need the "Carbonite Pro" package for that - cha-ching!)

For me, though, my uplink bandwidth (even living in the heart of Silicon Valley) isn't high enough to keep up with my daily rate of file modifications (unless the tool used advanced SIS). I put important stuff on one of a pair of 2TB (and "TB" is "TeraByte", not "ThunderBird"). After copying (to a fully encrypted file system), I take the drive to work and lock it in my desk, and bring the other drive home. Every couple of weeks or so "lather, rinse, repeat".

Personally I time machine to a NAS at home, and carbon copy cloner to a FW800 disk at work. So far so good. (The NAS is also backed up nightly to a usb drive, just in case the NAS, itself, dies, and I need immediate access to the time machine contents).
 
Personally I time machine to a NAS at home, and carbon copy cloner to a FW800 disk at work. So far so good. (The NAS is also backed up nightly to a usb drive, just in case the NAS, itself, dies, and I need immediate access to the time machine contents).

My NAS server is a WHS system that does directory-level RAID-1 mirroring (so on the NAS I already have protection from a single-drive failure), which is what I then copy to the 2 TB drives that I keep off-site.

If the Flying Spaghetti Monster sends a tsunami my way, though, I'll have to reinstall the OS and applications - I don't have an off-site bare metal backup. (More realistically, since the Mountains that I can View from my great room literally mark the San Andreas Fault - the FSM sending an earthquake is more likely.)
 
Personally I time machine to a NAS at home, and carbon copy cloner to a FW800 disk at work. So far so good. (The NAS is also backed up nightly to a usb drive, just in case the NAS, itself, dies, and I need immediate access to the time machine contents).

I use Carbonite as disaster recovery only. Otherwise I as well have a NAS at home which backs up everything. Carbonite for me is the worst case scenario where my apartment burns down, I'm robbed and they for some reason take the portable drives, etc. I would not use it as a front line backup solution.
 
What you saw is the simulator.... And why would you want an iOS app over a native MacOS App anyway?

Oh. Shoot. Thanks for explaining emulator vs simulator.

As for why, here are the apps we most use on iOS:

Adobe Ideas
iDraw
AutoCad WS
Inventor Publisher & VueCAD
DoInk
Pages
Numbers
Keynote
Garageband
MusicStudio

Not to mention Touchpad, AirDisplay, & iTeleport to turn the iPad into a (n admittedly limited) desktop peripheral.

We create a lot of content in iOS, which then gets brought into our MBPs or workstation for inclusion in the projects.... While we're mobile, there's nothing like an iPad to do all this stuff quickly and conveniently, so it's handy having this content in iOS, but when we get back to the office, there's a lot of of chasing around "exporting>sync>save to" whichever documents you've edited out on the road, keeping track of versions manually, & then reimporting them again every time you're going somewhere... + several of these apps won't import, only export, so once you've exported your workflow and data diverges, circles around, and bites you in the ass. it's a mess. Using iFiles & Dropbox helps somewhat with this, but what would even help more, is to simply be able to plug your ipad into your workstation, have it sync your third party apps the way it syncs your Apple app content, all user files included. ...little preview window and some basic options to resolve conflicts, etc. Back on the workstation, open up a file you've been working on on your mobile device, view and/or continue working on it in your original iOS app, or open it up in an OS X app if you have one, copy & paste from one into the other... with a simple "sync", be able to grab your mobile device and head out the door and have everything current.

Not to mention, the iPad makes a potentially revolutionary peripheral device for OSX. The shaky virtual trackpad and keyboard over wifi are cute (tho vnc display sharing over wifi is next to useless), but if Apple would open up the physical connection & a faster one at that), OSX could treat the device as an external monitor, and fully functional OSX apps could reliably utilize it as a touch control surface, with custom contextual menus for programs, with your content displayed right in those menus making them even more powerful. We should only see typewriter keyboards when typing the characters found on it, which, considering the amount of non-text-based things we now do with computers, isn't most of the time. Using an ill-fitting keyboard and memorizing a million "shortcuts" is a tremendous waste of time. Well laid out applications and clear, dynamic contextual menus are the future.

iOS a young platform, and already it's come a long way in its usefulness, but I see a ton of potential for OS X & iOS to work together and become greater than they are alone. The integration in either direction between the two worlds could yield some truly amazing things... ultimately I think Apple will someday have to either do them, or sit on two halves of a great product and watch some other company do them.
 
Math:

Developer/Company:

Currently:
Development and programming, product design, packaging production, marketing, DVD and packaging production, shipping, paying retailers.

App Store:
Development and programming, graphic design for online store, wireless distribution.

Apple handles the marketing and the App Store broadens market exposure. OS X files that don't open effectively use the App Store recommendations, making it easier for the average Joe to identify files (unlike another certain OS's inability to "Find online").

Cutting out DVD production, product design, package production, shipping, saves the company a lot of money. For arguments sake, let's state 30% of those costs are cut (most likely much more as physical media production/plants/etc cost a great deal). Apple handles the marketing and distribution of the product through the App Store and charges a 30% fee. The company now has broader exposure and increased sales, more than accounting for Apple's 30% take.

The App Store is allowing more consumers access to programs they might not otherwise know. Companies such as Apple have/are lowering the programs costs and are breaking up suites such as Adobe CS5, allowing the purchase of individual applications and not unnecessary apps while facilitating immediate consumer access.

Now that downloading 1-2GB movies isn't a big deal with ISPs (OS X Lion was seeded in less than 15 minutes to developers) it's not a stretch to see where this is going: full digital wireless application distribution.

Someone stated that storing app's on your computer isn't any good if you don't have off-site storage in case of fire or other such disasters. The same would happen with physical media so that point seems moot. As well, Apple has yet to activate their new $2B server farm in N.C. with rumors of off-site media storage, taking that claim out of the equation (there are companies that currently offer off-site storage at acceptable speeds). "Time Machine" is also a great system for saving data and full system restores unlike any commercially available system to date.

There seems to be a lot of picking over semantics and not so much over facts. :)

Thank you for proving my point.
 
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********. If Apple is really done with Lion, then they should only be charging $29 for it (if that), like 10.6. More confusing scrollbars, tiny window controls and a better graphics/OGL support stack...add in the touch-screen readiness and you might have a quick $29 update.

I suppose, following the iOS model, Apple will likely stop charging anything for Mac OS; the OS features will revolve around new hardware features and/or gimmicks.

Please open up your own company.

Maybe you'll get the idea that people who work on things spend their time and brainpower have to be paid.

If whatever Apple will charge is too much for you, stay with Snow Leopard or whatever you use. It does all you need and will for some time.
 
That's how I feel. Nothing all that great about Lion really, I'll just wait for whatever comes after it.

Nothing all that great? Just what are people expecting?

If the current OS runs all you need , keep using it until there was enough time to get a mature and polished "Lion" OS, whatever that will be.

Judging by previous OS history , it's clear that developer and beta testing can only be on a small scale.

Once a system gets released to Apple users ofg all experience levels, it takes apr. 3 updates to get out most of the bugs and re-evaluate what works better with some tweaking.

Some of what developers and Apple dream up at their desks isn't always practical or how consumers use it.

Thank you to all the early adopters:) You are making the decision when I will upgrade (If at all)
 
For all the "iToy" comments out there, lack of useful reasons for full screen apps, and overall discussion about 10.7 as a feature-loss release; I say to you...

Full Screen Terminal.

Thank the gods. That one feature is a reason for me to install (although, as I'll be supporting 10.7 out of the box across 30 odd schools, I'll have little choice as they roll in for refreshes anyhow...).
 
I guess this pretty much puts to rest the idea of surprise features, eh? Now we wait and see what the pricing is like...tell you what though, I'm not eager to upgrade. I finally have things the way I want under Snow Leopard. :|

Full Screen Terminal.

Out of curiosity, why are you extra-eager for this? Just wondering. Does a maximized Terminal window not currently have enough space for you, or is the issue something else entirely?
 
OS X Server in Lion

Could you elaborate on the server functionality in Lion? I am hoping to set up an NAS / Media Center at home in the near future and it sounds like Lion may help in this regard, but since my knowledge of servers is very limited, I would appreciate any information you could offer in terms of the features, practical application, and uses of OS X server in Lion.

Thanks.

Thank you!

I wanted to write every point you just made .. i'm just glad other people are capable of rational thought. It seems as though these people expect that if they don't like something then no one will, as though their uses are the most important and anyone else who disagree's doesn't use their computer for 'real work'.

Every one of the new features in Lion i am really excited about, the integration of server allows me to use my old Mac as a media server, Versions is a killer feature, as a developer i've been using local repo's forever. FDE is epic, anyone who cares about data security and used FileVault understands how much of a pain it is. I use my notebook and plug it into a large screen when i'm at a desk, i'd like fullscreen apps when i'm in notebook mode thanks. I could go on and on ...
 
Full Screen Terminal.

Why not just install a Darwin kernel and run the system from the text based console instead ?

The whole point of a windowing system is to have ...

Multiple Terminal! (screw tabs).

Oh. Shoot. Thanks for explaining emulator vs simulator.

As for why, here are the apps we most use on iOS:

Adobe Ideas
iDraw
AutoCad WS
Inventor Publisher & VueCAD
DoInk
Pages
Numbers
Keynote
Garageband
MusicStudio

Not to mention Touchpad, AirDisplay, & iTeleport to turn the iPad into a (n admittedly limited) desktop peripheral.

And none of those requires iOS app support on MacOS X! The only reason to even consider running an iOS app on Mac OS X would be games. Everything else has a much more powerful equivalent.
 
And none of those requires iOS app support on MacOS X! Everything else has a much more powerful equivalent.

Again, they do, (save for Garageband and Adobe's incredibly promising but sadly neglected Ideas app, which only exports vector data and can't figure out how to import anything but a raster image of that same data, essentially locking your work to iOS) but working between the two is a clumsy process at best.

And sure, I suppose getting videogames on the mac would be another reason.

Or maybe you don't need to open your MBP and fire up the whole system just to view some file for a second... hit the familiar glass button, up comes iOS able to view any file on your system, and you're in and back out again in seconds. Need to open the file in OS X and do some work? Hit the main power button, the system fires up in the background and reduces iOS to a dashboard-like overlay... click off and open your same file in the OSX application of your choice.

In the future, I can't help but see the two worlds increasingly coming together.
 
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Funny thing is that all the people who are flaming Lion will be installing it on launch day whilst foaming at the mouth, eyes bulged. Flame on.
 
Or maybe you don't need to open your MBP and fire up the whole system just to view some file for a second... hit the familiar glass button,

That's already what I do and OS X comes up right away. It has been this way ever since I've owned a Macbook.

We already have "instant on", we've had it for years. PC makers are implementing what you say with Linux and Windows hybrids, but seriously, it pales in comparison to OS X's already spectacular wake from sleep functionality.
 
Does anyone know if the all Macbook Pros will be updated with Lion as of launch day, and if so, will there be a price increase from the current Snow Leopard MBP's? I'm badly in need of a new Macbook and am considering waiting for Lion to be released in the summer.

Thanks in advance.
 
Does anyone know if the all Macbook Pros will be updated with Lion as of launch day, and if so, will there be a price increase from the current Snow Leopard MBP's? I'm badly in need of a new Macbook and am considering waiting for Lion to be released in the summer.

Thanks in advance.

99% chance of no; they were just updated. Summer is only a few months away!
 
99% chance of no; they were just updated. Summer is only a few months away!

Sorry, maybe the way I phrased my question was confusing. Just wondering if traditionally all of the computers in the apple store, or best buy for example, are updated with Lion on the day that it launches, or if they have a stock of MBP's with Snow Leopard that they will want to get rid of.

Thanks again. I will probably wait until the summer anyway as the features in Lion look incredible to someone who is still using Tiger!
 
Sorry, maybe the way I phrased my question was confusing. Just wondering if traditionally all of the computers in the apple store, or best buy for example, are updated with Lion on the day that it launches, or if they have a stock of MBP's with Snow Leopard that they will want to get rid of.

Thanks again. I will probably wait until the summer anyway as the features in Lion look incredible to someone who is still using Tiger!

Oh yes, if it isn't already loaded with Lion they'll slip an upgrade disc in or offer it for free.
 
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