Damn I love this post! Great points.
I would hope by now a person would be able to marry anyone they wanted to. By some of the comments here i wish the government would step in and not let some of you have kids.
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Damn I love this post! Great points.
I would hope by now a person would be able to marry anyone they wanted to. By some of the comments here i wish the government would step in and not let some of you have kids.
Of course you can't. Women have had the vote in the US since 1920. Hamsters still can't vote.
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It was an example, didn't mean to get you going. There is historical context if you just look at the last 200 years. There is always a cause to be fighting for, but this has gotten way off topic.
No one said it was a Christian nation, just that the people of America are still religious. You are right that we don't base our laws on the Bible, but people's beliefs are influenced by their religious beliefs. Certainly you can appreciate that having a populous who believe in God is going to influence how they vote.
In our state people would be able to marry whoever they want to already, but our governor is a republican. Still can't believe he had the balls to veto that.
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Absolutely it will. But I don't think that people should be voting on the civil rights of minorities, that would be mob rule. We have courts to protect people against that.
The question is, do you really want to marry multiple people, and more importantly, do those people want to be married to you and each other?
There are legal and personal difficulties with polygamy. A lot of it has to do with divorce. Can you divorce one of your spouses, without divorcing all of them, and if you do, do they remain married to each other?
Polygamy really only works in situations where one person (usually male) holds dominion over multiple spouses (usually female), who have very few rights. The slippery slope that leads to gay marriage is tilted in favor of equality, which means that the traditional kind of polygamy is becoming less and less accepted.
Crazy! One wife is enough!
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You can follow and read whatever you like but why do you feel the need to push your beliefs on others? I do not follow any religion and do not believe in any of it. But I dont feel the need to push it on others
Crazy! One wife is enough!
I couldn't agree more.
I liked marriage so much I did it three times.
Not at the same time, because that would be wrong.
I couldn't agree more.
I liked marriage so much I did it three times.
Not at the same time, because that would be wrong.
You...are very brave lol
We know because the concept of marriage existed in the oral traditions that people used to pass down knowledge before writing was invented. How can we know about ancient oral traditions you ask? Because many of them were later transcribed!
Of course it is..cause when the bible was written a few hundred years after the magic mans accent the dude writing it didn't like it much so he said god said it was bad..
It's commonly referred to as historical fraud.
Agreed, but as long as "marriage" is recognized as a legally binding contract between two parties the government will remain involved. Unfortunately there is no way an amendment converting all current marriages to "domestic partnerships" and relegating all future "marriages" to religious covenants carrying no legal merit is going to happen. So the way forward is to make "marriage" a secular construct and subject to the same requirements of all other civil contracts, e.i. prohibited from race, gender prerequisites.
Ironically, the religious organizations that have been fighting so hard to keep marriage as a contract between a male and female are going to discover much too late that their religious sacrament and the separation between church and state will be lost. This will open them up to lawsuits that force them to change their religious doctrine or cede the term marriage to the secular courts and come up with a new term to describe a covenant between a man and a woman in the eyes of their God.
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They are running their business though. This doesn't affect their work at all.
And they're not telling anyone how to run their lives. They're supporting minorities. They're not forcing anything on anyone, they're just supporting what they believe in.
Is this sarcasm? Marriage is between consenting adults; not between consenting adults and the government.
I'm not saying you should have to have a religious wedding. I'm saying that the government should not be involved in your marriage.
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Guess we should make those state/tax benefits available to everyone and get rid of marriage licenses.
A recent study shows that most individuals today cannot even give a correct definition of what morality is.
Apple recognizes that non-discrimination is good for their business. Further eliminating this gender-biased contract from the American legal system would simplify the demands on Apple's HR department and employee compensation programs. Thus reducing costs.
I encourage everyone on both sides of this debate to watch this video and listen to the lyrics. It's by Macklemore, the singer of "Thrift Shop". The song is called "Same Love"
Good for Apple. Consenting adults should be able to do what they want. I'm sure the Supreme Court will make the right decision on this.
Marriage shouldn't be a government issue at all in the first place, anyways.
Good question, but marriage is PRIMARILY a property rights arrangement. (Remember in marriage women are still legally minors/ wards like children) First marriage defines which minors you are responsible for by default (he ones your wife birthed) second, it defines what happens to to your property by default if something happens to you and ensures your lawful offspring get the property. Marriage helps reduce the amount of overhead in courts determining property rights for us little people.
Courts haven't enforced the sex parts of marriage in decades. Even then they only use the sex parts to punish property rights... When is the last time a court locked somebody in jail for adultery (many states still have the law on the books) let alone done anything to limit "serial divorce" where people marry and divorce 4-5 times.
All that's being done now is to refuse property rights to partners that cannot obtain that piece of paper... Many of these "no gay marriage" proposals go much further than just "marriage" but also prevent creating some other property/benefit/child care arrangement OTHER than marriage. That's what happened in Michigan, that the amendment REVOKED privately negotiated agreements for things like covering a partner on health insurance... With out calling the arrangement "marriage.
First of all i read almost all your posts. And i am not with your toughts in any sense. Saying the bible is a myth, well you can say that for yourself, i dont share it, nor do i accept your saying. And love is not about the body, but only about the soul. If you loved your nature and if you loved a persons soul correctly, you would know that you can love only one body and not many bodys and if you are a men, then you should only love a women. But as i said as long as you dont attack me i dont attack you, and in your land you can have your ass that stinking big, but in my land i do what i want abd belive what i want. And should you come infront of me and discriminate me in anyway, you can be sure not fbi nor cia will help you, a proud european. You dont have any right attacking my religion and i see you forever as an enemy to my soul. As you want gays to be respected you must also respect other tought and this is the tought that gay marriage will not be tolarated in church cause its a sin as polygamy too. You can have the gays and let them mary in ur state, i dont need them as i dont need liberals in my land and this is not about hateing but it seems tome that people confuse religious marriage with the state, it has simply nothing todo alltogether. Gay marriage is of same thing not allowed as the marriage between humans and animals. So this are my fiew coins and your clip hold it for you, i am watching what i want and that is religious!
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