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Apple Among 60 Companies to File Statement with U.S. Supreme Court Backing Gay Marriage

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yoak said:
I think this is great. Anyone should be able to marry any one they want as long as its mutual, no matter what gender they are
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Including my cousin.

Business should stay out of politics, simple as that.
 
macintoshi said:
First of all i read almost all your posts. And i am not with your toughts in any sense. Saying the bible is a myth, well you can say that for yourself, i dont share it, nor do i accept your saying. And love is not about the body, but only about the soul. If you loved your nature and if you loved a persons soul correctly, you would know that you can love only one body and not many bodys and if you are a men, then you should only love a women. But as i said as long as you dont attack me i dont attack you, and in your land you can have your ass that stinking big, but in my land i do what i want abd belive what i want. And should you come infront of me and discriminate me in anyway, you can be sure not fbi nor cia will help you, a proud european. You dont have any right attacking my religion and i see you forever as an enemy to my soul. As you want gays to be respected you must also respect other tought and this is the tought that gay marriage will not be tolarated in church cause its a sin as polygamy too. You can have the gays and let them mary in ur state, i dont need them as i dont need liberals in my land and this is not about hateing but it seems tome that people confuse religious marriage with the state, it has simply nothing todo alltogether. Gay marriage is of same thing not allowed as the marriage between humans and animals. So this are my fiew coins and your clip hold it for you, i am watching what i want and that is religious!
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huh? Not even sure where to begin...little closed minded much? Im just curious how you know for a fact that is whole religious thing is accurate and true? What if its not?
 
jasvncnt said:
huh? Not even sure where to begin...little closed minded much? Im just curious how you know for a fact that is whole religious thing is accurate and true? What if its not?
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Well its true, because i know ots true, so?No i think you are the closed minded, otherwise why replying?
 
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Guess we should make those state/tax benefits available to everyone and get rid of marriage licenses.[/QUOTE]

Unless you are going to replace this with a "domestic partnership license" for all you have a problem because the license is the basis for "marriage" to be recognized as a legal contract. Are you suggesting all marriage be solely non-secular carrying no merit in the eyes of the legal system? I actually know a priest who feels this way. He has stated he would prefer the church get out of the business of certifying marriage contracts and restrict itself to spiritual guidance.

For many marriage may start out as a spiritual journey but very quickly it becomes one of property and legal obligations. It is these property rights which led the Catholic church to prohibit clergy from getting married. (The early popes married.)
 
bdavis89 said:
It might not be, but there will be something else.
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And this is automatically bad? You oppose all kinds of progress? Did you scoff and complain about the civil rights movement as well?

phillipduran said:
You are under the false impression that you speak for us. Some of the "we" you refer to do understand the bible.

I was in the military and I was taught to understand my enemies. To understand the other sides point of view. How about you pick up a bible and understand what is in there. Once you do that, please rejoin the conversation.
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I agree with him/her completely and I understand the bible all too well. It's not that hard to understand, it's a book of stories that are suspiciously similar to fairytales, written several years after the events supposedly took place and are set in places that may or may not have existed in reality. It is self-contradictory and its moral teachings are questionable at best.

GREEN4U said:
Thus, the true Christian attitude towards homosexuality is not of hate or intolerance, but of love. The truth is that if we recognize our sin (whether its homosexuality or whatever you deal with) and accept Jesus Christ into our heart we may have everlasting life.
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Same old pathetic cop-out.
 
flipperfeet said:
Agreed, but as long as "marriage" is recognized as a legally binding contract between two parties the government will remain involved. Unfortunately there is no way an amendment converting all current marriages to "domestic partnerships" and relegating all future "marriages" to religious covenants carrying no legal merit is going to happen. So the way forward is to make "marriage" a secular construct and subject to the same requirements of all other civil contracts, e.i. prohibited from race, gender prerequisites.

Ironically, the religious organizations that have been fighting so hard to keep marriage as a contract between a male and female are going to discover much too late that their religious sacrament and the separation between church and state will be lost. This will open them up to lawsuits that force them to change their religious doctrine or cede the term marriage to the secular courts and come up with a new term to describe a covenant between a man and a woman in the eyes of their God.
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Interesting idea. Mormons already having sealing - although I think that's a union between parents and children in addition to the parents to each other...
 
macintoshi said:
Well its true, because i know ots true, so?No i think you are the closed minded, otherwise why replying?
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LOL now I see...your saying its true cause.....you know it is. Thats the typical answer i get. Thats like me saying well its not true....because I know its not. And i dont see how me replying to your rambling thread makes me close minded..but ok:rolleyes:
 
Well wrong i know its true cause its my spiritual life saying this and the holy spirith, so? I dont care what you think but to critize me you have no right, same as i dont critize you. But for me its enough nextly to switch to linux for example, cause apple saddened me by going that way one sided forgeting the other side. So what?
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Interesting idea. Mormons already having sealing - although I think that's a union between parents and children in addition to the parents to each other...
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You are correct. Mormons recognize a "legal and lawful marriage" and consider that necessary for morally acceptable sexual relations to take place. In addition, a sealing can take place where a couple is "sealed for time and all eternity" where as a civil marriage ends with the death of one of the spouses. Children are also sealed to parents to make an eternal family unit and children born to sealed parents are automatically sealed to their parents.

When Mormons do divorce, the sealing is not done away with as it is believed to be by God's authority and not the state's. There can be cancellation of a sealing, for example if a woman divorces and remarries, she can petition to have the first sealing revoked to make way for a new one.

The more you know.
 
Nunyabinez said:
You are correct. Mormons recognize a "legal and lawful marriage" and consider that necessary for morally acceptable sexual relations to take place. In addition, a sealing can take place where a couple is "sealed for time and all eternity" where as a civil marriage ends with the death of one of the spouses. Children are also sealed to parents to make an eternal family unit and children born to sealed parents are automatically sealed to their parents.

When Mormons do divorce, the sealing is not done away with as it is believed to be by God's authority and not the state's. There can be cancellation of a sealing, for example if a woman divorces and remarries, she can petition to have the first sealing revoked to make way for a new one.

The more you know.
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Yes because mormons aren't christians, not for me and my people, they dont even have right to be called so in my nation doe to theyr sinning ways;)
 
macintoshi said:
Well wrong i know its true cause its my spiritual life saying this and the holy spirith, so? I dont care what you think but to critize me you have no right, same as i dont critize you. But for me its enough nextly to switch to linux for example, cause apple saddened me by going that way one sided forgeting the other side. So what?
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I wasnt really attacking you..was just wondering how you know for a fact its all true. I cant say for a fact its not. Believe what you want. I really dont care
 
When are we gonna stop squabbling with this petty twist in marriage and get down to legalizing the good stuff like polygamy, bigamy public nudity, and sex in the streets?!! Consenting adults should have the right to do whatever they want!!!!
 
el-John-o said:
I just think they should be seperate. Religious folks have rights too, including to restrict things because of their understanding of morality. Let the government marry people of the same sex, and let the churches decide whether or not they'd like to participate in it. You may or may not agree with the religious organizations decision, but you don't have to participate with them either! And, taking away one persons rights and giving it to someone else isn't any more equality. Like it or not, agree with it or not, religious institutions also have rights!
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And no one is trying to take them away. What people are doing is trying to stop religious institutions from taking away other people's rights.

Marry whoever you want in your church. I couldn't care less. Try to tell me who I can marry civilly and you'll be sorry.
 
macintoshi said:
Yes because mormons aren't christians, not for me and my people, they dont even have right to be called so in my nation doe to theyr sinning ways;)
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Unfortunately, it's people like you that have given Christianity a bad name and why some of the atheists here hate religion. Being a Christian should mean believing in Christ and following his teachings, not attacking people because you have some narrow interpretation of what being a Christian is. If that is the Holy Spirit talking though you he should keep his mouth shut.
 
DesterWallaboo said:
Businesses need to get out of politics, regardless of their opinion.
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Yup. Only the society should have a say so of what goes on in their culture. If society votes "no" to gay marriage then no it is. The government should make laws that reflect what the majority wants.

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NewbieCanada said:
And no one is trying to take them away. What people are doing is trying to stop religious institutions from taking away other people's rights.

Marry whoever you want in your church. I couldn't care less. Try to tell me who I can marry civilly and you'll be sorry.
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Who here really believes US government really hasn't okay gay marriage because of Christian values? I've got a bridge to sell you.
 
Mrg02d said:
Yup. Only the society should have a say so of what goes on in their culture. If society votes "no" to gay marriage then no it is. The government should make laws that reflect what the majority wants.
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Increasingly, society is voting "yes" to gay marriage, so yes it is.
 
macintoshi said:
As you want gays to be respected you must also respect other tought
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I have no respect for religious bigotry. I 'must' do nothing of the sort...

it seems tome that people confuse religious marriage with the state, it has simply nothing todo alltogether
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Why are you opposed to civil gay marriage then? You're not confusing religious marriage withe the state are you?
 
Mrg02d said:
Yup. Only the society should have a say so of what goes on in their culture. If society votes "no" to gay marriage then no it is. The government should make laws that reflect what the majority wants.

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Who here really believes US government really hasn't okay gay marriage because of Christian values? I've got a bridge to sell you.
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Actually... the system wasn't set up to give the majority what it wants. That's why we are a republic not a democracy. The tyranny of the majority is always a factor.
 
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