Apple and Android Gain Smartphone Marketshare at Expense of RIM and Microsoft

It's all those low-end Samsung, LGs and HTCs where their users barely know that their phones are smartphones or buy any apps. Maybe you have to go to cities lower on the economic totem pole to see more of them.

As opposed the the wealthy, intelligent, high class iPhone users?
 
I wish it had unit numbers instead of percentages so we could see if RIM and Microsoft are really imploding (selling less units) or simply just not growing as fast as the market.

well this is a month and a half old now and worldwide, but it says that MS is selling fewer phones while RIM is actually selling slightly more than a year ago (but just not keeping up with the market):

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/1...one-sales-but-apple-still-dominating-profits/
 
I wish it had unit numbers instead of percentages so we could see if RIM and Microsoft are really imploding (selling less units) or simply just not growing as fast as the market.

This is the same information I would like as well. I work for one of the largest conglomerate companies in the US and were just told that everyone, everyone in the company must use a Blackberry as the company phone. I think as long as Blackberry can assure huge companies that their device is the most secure when lost, they will not lose that niche in the near future.
 
so much for the 4S... kids can keep using the iOS nonsense - surprised the general public actually going this time with the right OS (android) for once
 
This is the same information I would like as well. I work for one of the largest conglomerate companies in the US and were just told that everyone, everyone in the company must use a Blackberry as the company phone. I think as long as Blackberry can assure huge companies that their device is the most secure when lost, they will not lose that niche in the near future.

It doesn't look good.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1277299/
 
It's all those low-end Samsung, LGs and HTCs where their users barely know that their phones are smartphones or buy any apps. Maybe you have to go to cities lower on the economic totem pole to see more of them.

Why then was the Samsung Galaxy S II, a top of the line high end phone one of the best selling Android model this year ? :rolleyes:

That doesn't make sense, according to you, it's the low end that's pushing Android up, not its high-end...
 
Blame Ballmer and his arrogance for WP7's results (or lack thereof) today.

Microsoft had their chance to grab hold of the universal-licensing scheme that Google employs today with impunity, but when Ballmer and the world was shown in 2007 what was to come he just laughed it off, thought it was all a big joke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

The result? More lousy WinMo iterations for the next three years.

The only thing about this video that is constantly ignored, is that Ballmer was sort of right for the first year. It WAS too expensive and did too little, even though the phone was really impressive when it launched. It didn't take off until the 3G version, which was actually subsidized and had the App Store (which Steve Jobs was against by the way. Where would Apple be if iTunes was still Mac only, and the iPhone had no App Store? Both things Jobs fought for). So yeah, Ballmer looks stupid now, but at the launch he was kind of right, and people just completely forget this, or purposefully misrepresent the truth.

He even says in the video they might still sell well.

You like to go around ripping on people, but what exactly do you do?
 
so much for the 4S... kids can keep using the iOS nonsense - surprised the general public actually going this time with the right OS (android) for once

Uh ? How is iOS for "kids" exactly ?

Both platforms are good, have their pros and have their cons. Choice between either is quite subjective and a matter of personal preference.
 
so much for the 4S... kids can keep using the iOS nonsense - surprised the general public actually going this time with the right OS (android) for once

There's no such thing as "the right OS," just the one that works best for you. For me, iOS's itunes/mac integration trumps anything android does or probably could do. But that's a personal preference based on my own needs and uses. It doesn't make iOS "right."
 
I own a 4s and a Nokia lumia and wp7 is way better than iOS. Way better......way better.

My phone, currently a 3Gs is basically a telephone and extension of my home computer as in Internet, email, calendar and contacts. Apps, games and voice control are not of interest to me. Therefore my next phone will be one that seemly ports info back and forth with my desktop computer.

I'm interested in either an iPhone or W8 phone, whichever one does what I want it to do best gets my business. My confidence level that there is someone a Microsoft who who is going to make sure that W8 and W8 just work right is rather low. Somehow I think that an iPhone 5 or 5s or 6 is in my future.
 
As long as Microsoft isn't in the driver's seat for mobile computing like they were for desktop computing, we're all better off.
 
My phone, currently a 3Gs is basically a telephone and extension of my home computer as in Internet, email, calendar and contacts. Apps, games and voice control are not of interest to me. Therefore my next phone will be one that seemly ports info back and forth with my desktop computer.

I'm interested in either an iPhone or W8 phone, whichever one does what I want it to do best gets my business. My confidence level that there is someone a Microsoft who who is going to make sure that W8 and W8 just work right is rather low. Somehow I think that an iPhone 5 or 5s or 6 is in my future.

What makes Mac so great is that it makes computing easy. It's the same concept with wp7.
 
I own a 4s and a Nokia lumia and wp7 is way better than iOS. Way better......way better.

You mean way better FOR YOU.

No one can claim that one OS is better than another, all ANYONE can claim is that one works better for them than any of the others.

I'm glad you fell off the bandwagon and found something that works for you - that's the way it should always be. Now run over to the WP7 forums and tell them why, no one cares here.
 
I think you are clutching at straws. The 4S has tuned out to be a damp squib and made no impact on share. These numbers will be very disappointing for Apple.

Ahh, but look at these numbers :D

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Or THESE numbers!

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Or these numbers :(

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/wrists

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Uh ? How is iOS for "kids" exactly ?

Both platforms are good, have their pros and have their cons. Choice between either is quite subjective and a matter of personal preference.

Isn't this "for kids" a common cry from the android crowd because Android embraces more complex aspects of computing like an obvious file system and more desktop like multi-tasking?

Personally, I thought Android was for kids. At least sometimes:

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so much for the 4S... kids can keep using the iOS nonsense - surprised the general public actually going this time with the right OS (android) for once

The "general" public usually go with what's mostly available, cheap and what they're told to go with by the sales people at the counters. There isn't a choice made other than they wanted a new phone.

It was and always will be whichever OS finds its way on most devices deemed as necessities will always take a majority share. This is simple market logic and explains why the iPod and iPad were / will remain at the top of their respective markets, they are not necessities, but luxury devices.
 
Why then was the Samsung Galaxy S II, a top of the line high end phone one of the best selling Android model this year?
Yeah, I really don't get the whole Android = Cheap claim you see so much on Macrumors. The vast majority of Androids I see in the field are in a similar price range to the iPhones I see. My first Android was an EVO 4G. I don't recall it being low-end on any chart I ever saw. In fact it was faster than anything I had used up until that point and nearly impossible to purchase for the first several months due to every store selling out and keeping a surprisingly long waiting list. Even to this day it has managed to run everything I've ever tried to throw at it. I can't say the same for my iPhones. They were reasonably fast when purchased but never blazing and quickly got slower and slower as new patches and revisions of iOS were released.
 
I think you are clutching at straws. The 4S has tuned out to be a damp squib and made no impact on share. These numbers will be very disappointing for Apple.

You'll find Apple's upcoming quarterly iPhone sales figures most surprising. Not only will it be another record in that area, it'll be much higher than the usual difference quarter-to-quarter.
 
They were reasonably fast when purchased but never blazing and quickly got slower and slower as new patches and revisions of iOS were released.

I don't think this is 100% accurate, as my iPhone 4 is now a lot faster than it was before iOS 5. So much faster, I see no reason to get a 4s.

Maybe people think androids are cheaper because they look at graphs of how much phones cost.

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I would like to add that this graph is most likely ALL phones. Not Smartphones. So it can be confusing since Apple only makes one.
 
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so much for the 4S... kids can keep using the iOS nonsense - surprised the general public actually going this time with the right OS (android) for once

That depends on what you're looking at.

Overall, iOS has the lion's share of the mobile OS market. This includes everything, from media players to tablets. But you're still correct, in terms of smartphones, Android has the larger market share. Then again, it's easy for Google to get big share numbers with the kind of business model they employ. It takes very little effort. Which is fine for them; Apple wouldn't be caught dead trying to hawk devices in that manner.

Apparently, Android just doesn't cut it in terms of anything outside of phones.
 
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