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Apple and Android Gain Smartphone Marketshare at Expense of RIM and Microsoft
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Apple competes in the low end smartphone market as well or did you forget about the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4? Oh that's right they probably just ship 'em to the poor cities and not your rich city.
I can boil down every numbers argument to this.
Something I like not selling? Well, Expensive Product A doesn't sell nearly as much as Cheap Product B. Does that make Cheap Product B better? Of course not. Only people with a refined sense of taste prefer my chosen favorite product.
Something I like selling in droves? Well, it's obvious people prefer the superior product. After all, if the other similar product were as good as my preferred product, then it'd be selling just as much. The fact it isn't selling is proof enough that it's an inferior product.
*Insert Charts And Numbers Proving Your Point Here*
Repeat ad infinitum.
I think big overly-secure corporate people like Balmer, Dell, and the RIM co-clowns who go around making pompous and fortune telling jabs like that, thinking they know everything about their markets, should get ripped.
Otherwise, be ridiculed on Youtube and the Press forever and ever.
What's amazing here is that Motorola, and LG's share actually decreased while Android overall increased. Samsung must be doing quite well!
It included both smartphones and non-smartphones so you can't tell much by the data. My guess is both Motorola and LG actually sold more Android phones, however as their traditional non-smartphone business retracts it caused a slight decline. This is probably not worrisome to them since there is a lot more profit in each smartphone sold then each non-smartphone.
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Well, the growth for both continues. I wonder how long until Windows Phone 7 starts growing. I think it is bound to happen eventually.
Well, the growth for both continues. I wonder how long until Windows Phone 7 starts growing. I think it is bound to happen eventually.
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Some friends of mine just bought $1 HTC Titans on Black Friday for the following reasons:
> He's a game programmer for XBox
> They were ONE DOLLAR. COME ON!
> Avoid all iPhone and Android controversy
> Better camera than their iPhone 3G
> Flippy tiles are hipster
Not
> Marketshare
> Open Source / Closed Source
> Processor / RAM / Sunspider / GL Bench
They agree that it has these disadvantages:
> Lack of Apps
> Possible overkill on screen size
> Battery Life
Honestly, I really think there is a small percentage of people will pick Microsoft just to avoid Android and iOS entirely or just to be non-conformist.
It's the target audience. Perhaps you live in an area where people spend more money. While some areas have phones which come free with a contract. Those areas might not have iPhones at all.
WM7 is not as bad as everyone says.
Typical Microsoft fashion it is a decent OS and phone but horribly marketed. It does not have the media ecosystem like iOS, Zune is a horrible failure. They should have marketed it as a replacement for BB in a corporate environment.
I just wish Blackberry would die already. iOS is going to take over BB in the business market.
2 reasons, one is the lack of RIM's INSANE Enterprise Email pricing model and 2 Safari. We do a ton of hosted Exchange. It costs me $1.27 per month for an Activesync license for Android/iOS/W7M.
It costs me, or more specifically my customers since we pass on the cost, and this is no joke, $55.00 per month between the RIM Enterprise license and the carrier license.
As far as iOS vs WM7 in the Enterprise. W7M doesn't do enough to set itself apart. Safari handles SharePoint sites and its easy to write a app to communicate with a portal style website on Safari which means its pretty OS agnostic as far as being able to work.
W7M has great native SharePoint integration but I can do the same things on my iPad2/4S with 3rd party apps and even directly through the browser that cost next to nothing.
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Typical Microsoft fashion it is a decent OS and phone but horribly marketed. It does not have the media ecosystem like iOS, Zune is a horrible failure. They should have marketed it as a replacement for BB in a corporate environment.
I just wish Blackberry would die already. iOS is going to take over BB in the business market.
2 reasons, one is the lack of RIM's INSANE Enterprise Email pricing model and 2 Safari. We do a ton of hosted Exchange. It costs me $1.27 per month for an Activesync license for Android/iOS/W7M.
It costs me, or more specifically my customers since we pass on the cost, and this is no joke, $55.00 per month between the RIM Enterprise license and the carrier license.
As far as iOS vs WM7 in the Enterprise. W7M doesn't do enough to set itself apart. Safari handles SharePoint sites and its easy to write a app to communicate with a portal style website on Safari which means its pretty OS agnostic as far as being able to work.
W7M has great native SharePoint integration but I can do the same things on my iPad2/4S with 3rd party apps and even directly through the browser that cost next to nothing.
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Genuinely curious - why do you think that? I don't see them doing anything that would dislodge iOS and Android.
Not sure it will slow down iOS, but the Windows7 phones are better than android.
once more people start getting them, I could see them gaining some market share.
Conversly, who could ever have predicted the likes of Apple or Google dislodging veteran mobile players like RIM, Microsoft, and Nokia from their top statuses?
Anything can happen.
Viruses and the open source model will sour people on Android.
If MS was smart they would have plans ready to go for a FREE trade in of your BB fora W7M, including fee's. MS can take the financial hit.
Wait till people cannot text or email because there are viruses on their Android's. It will happen just give it time.
A drop from 4.4% this summer to 3.1% this fall. It’s not a big deal, it's not consecutive quarters, Android is still growing. I couldn’t care less about juvenile fantasies of iOS “losing” or Android “winning”, ornvice-versa, both OSs will be around for a long time. I just found it interesting that a drop in growth conincided with the ending of original Droid owners contracts.
I don't think its a one to one comparison.
iOS and Android were not just phones, they were totally new devices and concepts.
MS did not have a product that even remotely competed until W7M. BB still doesn't. BB is still a phone with crappy email and browser which is pretty much what any "smart" phone was back in the day until iOS and Android.
I agree. Windows mobile 7+ is the most unique looking mobile OS now. Non-conformists and those looking for the 'least controversial' smartphone will find the Windows phones irresistible, especially at lower prices.
iOS and the iPhone were new concepts. Android, nor any of the devices it resides in, is not. Don't forget that the iPhone was the first of it's kind to enter the market, introduce multi-touch, and an app market. Google came second and followed in Apple's footsteps. Yet Google now holds the largest market share of mobile phone OS. What's not to say Microsoft can't do what Google did and capture some market share?
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Yea, definitely. It stands out from iOS/Android look the most by far. Its easy to distinguish a WM7 phone from the others.
BTW, I like your signature. Nothing wrong with being loyal to any company if you really like them and get good service.
Unfortunately most people on the internet will be quick to call any kind of loyalty as fanboyism. What a shame.In general, November would mean end of November.
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Androids growth is bizarre. Then again, its hardly surprising. Question is, can they make it sticky enough if MSFT manages to get traction with their 3 screens strategy? I somewhat doubt it, but i've been wrong before :- )
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If i were to buy a WP device large part of it would be that exact reason. Of course, it doesn't hurt that the OS is somewhat slick too. Haven't seen anything impressive enough to be worth my dime though. If Nokia delivers according to rumors and shows up a 900 device based on the N9/800 with better specs, that could be it for me. Until then... i stay away from it all :- )
Oh my, we have a fertile imagination at work here. Why not enlighten us as to how you came up with the category called "Zombie Androids"?
If it's official, Google, nor Bing could find it.
You might also supply a link or two to support your claim as to how they are being used without a data plan, and where you got the data to prove you're claim that they're not being used as smartphones.
Finally to establish your credibility, data on how you determined they want iPads to support your claim would make your post relevant.
In lieu of said requests, we can only guess it's merely speculation of no value whatsoever.
Thank You
App markets existed before iPhone. For example, SE had an "Application Store" back in 2003.
I wonder when these non-conformists (who, apparently, think Microsoft and Windows = non-conformism) will start buying them. They've had over a year now. I get that WP7 is "different", but it only seems to be different for the sake of being different. The OS itself, quite frankly, is just awful. The whole platform is a real stinker. Look for a "reset" (I love these euphemisms) announcement by MS in about a year's time.
The opportunity for this platform to really make an impression has passed. It's done.The market's already spoken. Another holiday season gone by, and no real impact.
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Absolutely no comparison to what we have today. It's as if App stores for mobile never existed prior to 2008. Same thing with tablets prior to 2010. That's how stark the contrast is from what was, to what is.
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I really can't blame you. I work with some rabid Android and Apple fans that can really drive you crazy. Here's some quick examples:
Android guy:
* Starts every meeting with some jibe like "There's nothing new about the iPhone 4S" (Because his wife wants an iPhone 4S)
* Pasted an S on the back of his Google phone and told everyone he got a new phone. Everyone. On the entire 3rd floor of my building.
* Refuses to call an iPhone anything other than "a cellphone" when referring to it.
* Came into everyone's office who has an iPhone to announce that Android Market has a sale.
iPhone guy:
* Says things like "Papa Steve wouldn't approve of you saying that".
* Reads every negative Google article in a very loud voice. (DaringFireball anyone?)
* Asks everyone how Ice Creme Sandwich is running on their Samsung Galaxy S
* Tells people he has patches to submit for Honeycomb
So, yeah. If you play XBox games and want a smartphone with no drama, go get a Windows phone. You can even buy a Nokia and completely avoid HTC and Samsung at the same time.