The WSJ article was clear that the sample size was too small to draw that conclusion.
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The WSJ article was clear that the sample size was too small to draw that conclusion.
Oh noes, the UUID! I feel so insecure now!
If anything sue AOL and Google. They always take information. And Apple doesn't even make the apps, so why are THEY getting sued? Not to mention we don't even know yet if the UUIDs ARE getting stolen.
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Um yeah they are.
Code:
UIDevice *device = [UIDevice currentDevice];
NSString *uniqueIdentifier = [device uniqueIdentifier];That's the Objective C Code, that gives me your devices ID Code.
But that's nothing new... it's been a feature in the SDK forever.
The main argument is that these aren't "Apple apps". These are 3rd party iPhone Apps. If you used only Apple installed apps. No App Store. You'd be OK.
I'm not saying that that's necessarily an excuse, nor am I saying that Android is any better/worse. Just pointing out that you are dealing with multiple companies here, not just Apple.
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1. This is just a lawsuit, so we only have accusations of one party which is certainly not neutral or unbiased. In other words, just because they say Apple is doing something wrong, doesn't mean Apple is doing it, and doesn't mean it's wrong.
2. Apple has tens of billions of dollars in the bank. So anyone will sue Apple no matter how small the chance of winning is.
No see my response above, AT&T already has all of your info including your Social Security Number and they have known what phone you have and where you are, based off of your SIM card and their cell towers since cellphones were invented. The iPhone was not the first cellphone with a GPS in it either.. they have know EXACTLY where you are for a very long time.
First thing I did before I released my first App..
SudoWorks "LLC"
I feel bad for the indie developers targeted by the lawsuit as it's more likely that they did not consult a lawyer as to how to protect themselves with a privacy policy/opt-in system.
the shady underbelly of smartphone use. i'm kinda leery of this as you can't probably trust app developers all that much. even if you say its still harmless data like age, location etc. if you didnt give permission for it to be sent i still think its shady and wrong. tracking cookies were bad enough on the pc but now its direct, personal, real-life tangible data that you probably wouldn't really want them to have. i know i'd be creeped out if my pc sent out my age and other stuff to random people why should it be acceptable on a smartphone?
Every app sold through iTunes is an "Apple app" in a sense. They approve each one and rubber stamp it as meeting their guidelines. When an app turns out to be dirty, sure you can blame the dev but ultimately Apple approved it for sale and put their brand behind it. Maybe if there was no approval process this would be a different story.
Actually, no. I'm for Apple exerting zero control over 3rd party apps. People should be allowed to develop any type of app they please and make it available (a la Cydia).
That said, if Apple is going to play the Morality & Safety Police game, then they should be held responsible for the consequences of their actions (or in this case, inactions).
On the subject of Social Security numbers, I don't ever give mine if I think the info is not needed (Banks, government, credit card applications etc.. (I'd say 99% of the time not needed)
Unfortunately at car rental places, hotels or other info gathering zealous places it's usually a fruitless discussion with a clerk following company rules.
So, instead of arguing I write in/use my REAL SSN, EXCEPT I reverse 2 numbers in the sequence. (You decide)
Now , if it was really important you would be contacted that something isn't right with your SSN AND you can apologize that you reversed a number.
Oops
If on the other hand nobody ever contacts you about your partially incorrect SSN , it shows they didn't need it to begin with and it is just filed someplace or in a system where it doesn't matter.
Never had to show my SSN card for verification (We are not supposed to carry it) and no discussions with any clerk, doctor's receptionist etc.etc.
I have been doing this for over 25 years and am still waiting for the first call to question my SSN !
Why does it have to be all or nothing? Apple's review process should be held to the standard that it has promised it's users. If they are letting through apps that release private data that Apple said they would not allow to be released, then they should be held accountable.
UDIDs are specifically allowed the last I heard. Which was after Apple changed their policy as a result of complaints and a possible FTC investigation.
What has Apple promised it's users about the privacy of data in third party apps? (Serious question.)
I get a kick out of reading the apple fanboys comments. Apple can do no wrong. Boy, you folks are really brainwashed by apple. As it's only a lawsuit at this time, no one knows how this will turn out. If it gets class action status, then there must be some wrong doing for a judge to grant this. Since apple is the center of how iAd works and does collect money from the benefit of such, then apple should bare the brunt of the lawsuit. What stinks about any class action suit is the folks who this happens to won't see much money at all. Better off removing yourself from the class action and get your own lawyer. At least get more money from the greedy apple empire. But as usual, apple will settle out of court so they don't have to admit guilt !
I think it is you that are delusional because you have no proof that Apple did this.
You are wrong. The App Store is just like any retail store. Could any retail store be sued for selling lead containminated products? I do not remember any had.
You are wrong. No retailer is responsible for the products they sell not even the cigarette vendors.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
You forgot surf the web. That's right. IP Addresses are logged on many sites, but there isn't exactly a way around that either so... It is what it is. Proxy servers have to know your IP to work, so don't think that's 100% protection.
kas23 said:
You forgot surf the web. That's right. IP Addresses are logged on many sites, but there isn't exactly a way around that either so... It is what it is. Proxy servers have to know your IP to work, so don't think that's 100% protection.
There's a difference between modern advertising and the old style physical junk mail; with junk mail if you didn't get Advert X through your letter box, you didn't get anything instead of it. However, with web-based advertising, you always get the advert. So once you accept that, it's a matter of deciding if you're going to get hit with x number of adverts a day, do you want those to be completely random adverts, many of which will be of no relevance to you whatsoever, or do you want them to be targeted so some might actually be of some use to you?
In other words, if Apple are going to bombard me with iAds, I'd actually prefer them to know a bit about me rather than keep serving me adverts about lip gloss and retirement homes.
In other words, if Apple are going to bombard me with iAds, I'd actually prefer them to know a bit about me rather than keep serving me adverts about lip gloss and retirement homes.
I'm waiting to see how the "Apple does no wrong" crowd spins this so as to say they weren't wrong when they said Apple wasn't going to do this.
Apple has not been found to have done anything wrong. Attorney trolls have only sued Apple to discover it indeed anything could have been done wrong.
It's no different if someone were to sue you. It doesn't mean they have a case that you have done squat. Anyone can be sued for anything, however the deeper the pockets you have the more likely you will get sued.