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What mainstream problem does this solve? It seems like a minuscule edge case.

Coverage in a lot of rural areas an be spotty. My SO and I routinely travel to the mountains in rural PA or lower Eastern Shore of MD and the coverage we get in some of these places is spotty, if non existent.

People who do offshore fishing charters (we do these where no cell phone coverage exists)? Hunters and outdoor enthusiasts who hike, fish, or explore the back country for recreation.

Add the automatic crash detection that's "rumored" to be coming out and it has the potential to save lives. Say, when a car crashes over a guardrail or into a ravine where no cell phone coverage is available. The user can text emergency services and the phone will send them GPS location information.

I have a heart condition, and the ability to summons emergency services in areas we vacation that are on the fringes of cell coverage could possibly save my rumpus. As opposed to my SO walking around looking for a cell signal like Jesse Pinkman in Breaking bad.

This is something I would REALLY want to have.
 
EXACTLY! The vast majority of Apple’s user base live in metropolitan areas. While what kind of broadband and how fast it is certainly varies based upon where you are located, certainly access to a high speed connection is ubiquitous. The only time his really makes sense is in rural areas, particularly in remote places, where you have zero broadband access. I don’t see apple chasing this set of users. It’s not their MO and for what, to say you can send a text message via a satellite. Yeah, I totally see apple investing billions for that alone…
You’re truly unimaginative if you think this. 1. That apple will ignore 50% of its American consumer base. 2. That Apple will ignore advancement in cellular tech. 3. That they aren’t creative enough to market this.

Plus, it’s not JUST for rural areas. Everyone vacations or travels or has family in areas that aren’t covered by cell reception. Having a car break down on a highway with no reception is all the ad would need to be. Sailing off the coast and a storm is coming. Countless ads.

Apple can market this just like it does the Apple Watch. Health and safety centered. “It just works.”

I thought we were 5+ years out from this tech. The fact it’s discussed as launching next year is fantastic.

Some of you act like you’ve never had to wait to send a text message because you were in a dead spot or on a hike. Get outside, people.
 
Wow! I thought I was going to be able to pass up this upgrade cycle but if I can text (or receive texts) while remote and out of cell phone range, my wife would be happy when she is checking on me during a bike ride in the mountains! I have a Garmin SOS device that is a clumsy texting tool and has a $15/month subscription, but this might be a way better option.
 
Given Musk and Apple have a...well...not great past, we'll be ending up with an Apple competitor getting direct starlink access on handsets at some point in the future, leaving Apple to either not have that ability at all, or use someone like Globalstar, who've got a vastly slower network. Globalstar is absolutely fine if its only for emergency calls, but when we inevitably move to satellite for data and standard calls then Apples got a problem.
 
If you are in a SOS situation in dead zone you could contact 911 in an emergency using satellite. Terrestrial cellular coverage isn’t available everywhere in North America for given carriers.
Yeah exactly. Having just gotten back from vacation in the upper peninsula of Michigan (and liking to explore nature regularly), I’m all about this. Cell service was basically only available in remotely scattered towns and not in between and not in the parks.
 
Canceling InReach services that use satellites to text with your phone for 12+ bucks a month will be a welcome benefit as well.

Exactly. There's a sizable market for GPS products and services from brands like Garmin and others. I've looked into getting the mini Garmin device for our outdoor family activities where we have no reception. At a minimum of $350 for an entry-level unit, this would be a very big deal. Especially if you've ever looked into the service fees and requirements. I get that many people don't understand why satellite connectivity in an iPhone is significant, but it sure is.
 
What mainstream problem does this solve? It seems like a minuscule edge case.
Just this year alone, I have been to several cell signal dead zones:
  • Back country skiing in Lake Tahoe and Mammoth Lakes
  • Several famous hiking trails in Kauai
  • Hiking trails and campgrounds at Yosemite
  • Boating in the northern California Coasts
I would've loved to be able to iMessage in these areas.

Is it enough for me to upgrade from iPhone 13 Pro to iPhone 14 Pro? Probably not without a generous upgrade promo, but it's a great carrot nevertheless.
 
👨‍🚀🚀🎬 Wasn't there some science fiction movie in which a spaceship appeared in a scene and only became visible in its black silhouette because it gradually blocked the view of the stars?
 
Yeah exactly. Having just gotten back from vacation in the upper peninsula of Michigan (and liking to explore nature regularly), I’m all about this. Cell service was basically only available in remotely scattered towns and not in between and not in the parks.

Yep. And think of national parks ... we were just in Joshua Tree for a couple days and had no reception through much of the park. We also spend time at a lake home in Northern CA and the part of the lake we spend the most time on has no reception. Personally, I've been hoping for this feature for years.
 
EXACTLY! The vast majority of Apple’s user base live in metropolitan areas. While what kind of broadband and how fast it is certainly varies based upon where you are located, certainly access to a high speed connection is ubiquitous. The only time his really makes sense is in rural areas, particularly in remote places, where you have zero broadband access. I don’t see apple chasing this set of users. It’s not their MO and for what, to say you can send a text message via a satellite. Yeah, I totally see apple investing billions for that alone…
I live in a rural area next to a small city of 50,000 we have coverage downtown but 5 minutes outside of that you get nothing this would be another big win like Starlink was for us. Plus cruise ship coverage as well as extreme outdoor enthusiasts like myself planning to climb part of Mt.Everest next summer and with this I could avoid buying a sat phone.
 
Meh....Few will need it, and Apple will likely manage to lock out any potentially better alternatives like the T-Mobile/SpaceX system. And IF Apple ever gets it to work without too many bugs, it will probably cost more than it is worth to most users. It isn't something I need or want, so I'll sit on the sideline and watch Apple make a lot of promises for the future rather than deliver features right away...
Wow talk about jinxing yourself and setting up the irony where you will need it.
 
What mainstream problem does this solve? It seems like a minuscule edge case.

If it is free, it doesn't have to solve a huge problem. It is like some of the Apple Watch heart features, most people haven't discovered they'd had a heart attack using it, but you are essentially getting some free insurance.

Think about: hurricane hits, cell network is down. Earthquake or any other disaster. Most people will never need it (thankfully) but it buys them a bit of peace of mind at no extra cost (over and above the new phone).

Plus this is just the start - will it expand beyond this over time so that you might not need VZW or ATT or T-Mobile?
 
I work in Search & Rescue in California. If this happens, it will have a profound impact on wilderness safety. A small minority of people actively use InReach and SPOT to solve this problem, but a phone is something everyone has (or should have) with them. We have ~3-6 InReach activations per summer day in the California backcountry. Those are the lucky ones. For those sick and injured without an InReach, it can take days to locate them after a missing persons report is filed.

There are also many traffic accidents in remote areas reported via InReach. More lives saved.

I suspect you'll have a significant number of iPhone/Globalstar life safety reports rolling in every day, just in California...
 
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Yep. And think of national parks ... we were just in Joshua Tree for a couple days and had no reception through much of the park. We also spend time at a lake home in Northern CA and the part of the lake we spend the most time on has no reception. Personally, I've been hoping for this feature for years.
Yeah. I was at fairly popular tourist sites (in UP terms) with hundreds or possibly low thousands of other people in the park at the same time (Pictured Rocks, Taquahemnon Falls) and no service on either Verizon or ATT.
 
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If I had a daughter and she went hiking or perhaps drove between two cities (where there was dessert or nothing much in between) like for college, say between LA and Phoenix I would upgrade her so FAST to the iPhone 14 it would make your head spin.
 
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