Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
So if i drive out to an area of the country with no reception, I can still text for help and give my location, right?

Just thinking if I am chased by the Friday the 13th dude to an area with no AT&T....
I have been on business trip and lost coverage for miles and miles with out a building or house in sight. It was unsettling since my GPS app needed an internet connection to update the map. A breakdown would have been bad.
 
Sure, it's not something people will use often, but when it's necessary it can be life saving.

There's vast stretches of highway in sparsely populated areas of the US that have no cellular service. Being able to send messages if you're stranded out there can save your life.

In places like Florida and the Gulf coast, hurricanes can knock out cellular infrastructure and leave people unable to communicate. Being able to send emergency messages, or even "I survived the storm" to family members is a wonderful capability.

It's like a fire extinguisher. It'll sit there for five years collecting dust but when something flares up in your kitchen you'll be glad you have it. It also doesn't cost much extra to implement in today's chipsets.
Louisiana too
 
  • Like
Reactions: VulchR
Well this would be very disappointing for us 13-mini owners who want the small form factor, along with this feature, if no 14-mini is coming. I'm in a western, mountainous state where I hike to areas with no cell coverage. I hope this is compatible with current hardware, like T-Mobile's service, and Apple doesn't limit it to the 14 models.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5105973 and JM
EXACTLY! The vast majority of Apple’s user base live in metropolitan areas. While what kind of broadband and how fast it is certainly varies based upon where you are located, certainly access to a high speed connection is ubiquitous. The only time his really makes sense is in rural areas, particularly in remote places, where you have zero broadband access. I don’t see apple chasing this set of users. It’s not their MO and for what, to say you can send a text message via a satellite. Yeah, I totally see apple investing billions for that alone…
Just because the "vast majority of Apple's user base live in metropolitan areas", doesn't mean those people never leave said metropolitan areas. There are plenty of places in the US with dead zones and they aren't just "remote places". I live just 20 minutes from NC's high tech RTP (Raleigh-Durham metropolitan area) - yet AT&T and T-Mobile have no service where I live. So Apple isn't chasing users who live in the boon-docks, they're chasing anyone with a cell phone who travels and who wants to feel safe knowing they can always reach help in case of emergency. Which is pretty much everyone in the world.
 
It explains the 'Far Out' Galaxy theme. Hope they do not charge you with a Health(+!) subscription for this to gain this additional and possible life saving feature. That being said, next year during the Keynote Apple is already preparing anecdotes of people using this feature that saved their lives.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JM
As many have stated, this is great for communicating without cell service. Back roads, even canyons in areas like Los Angeles. Friends use InReach or rent sat phones for river trips or hiking trips for emergencies. This would be easier and presumably cheaper. This is one of those things you don't need until you do.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5105973 and JM
What mainstream problem does this solve? It seems like a minuscule edge case.
My wife's job frequently takes her to parts of the country with zero cellular coverage. She may be there for extended periods of time.

She takes this with her in the event of an emergency:

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/765374

It would be great to ditch the Garmin and rely on iP alone.
 
An iPhone (with no protruding antenna) transmitting a signal to a satellite in low altitude geosynchronous orbit (at least 350 miles away) seems like a much greater technical challenge than simply receiving satellite signals for GPS positioning. I'll be curious to see more about how they overcome the uplink challenges.
 
Wondering if the new Apple Watch cellular version will be able to take advantage of this. Maybe only on the Pro version?
 
  • Like
Reactions: JM
It explains the 'Far Out' Galaxy theme. Hope they do not charge you with a Health(+!) subscription for this to gain this additional and possible life saving feature. That being said, next year during the Keynote Apple is already preparing anecdotes of people using this feature that saved their lives.
Stop giving Apple ideas to bleed more money out of us. Haha
 
Meh....Few will need it, and Apple will likely manage to lock out any potentially better alternatives like the T-Mobile/SpaceX system. And IF Apple ever gets it to work without too many bugs, it will probably cost more than it is worth to most users. It isn't something I need or want, so I'll sit on the sideline and watch Apple make a lot of promises for the future rather than deliver features right away...
Free is more than it’s worth? Hm.
Farrar said Apple's service will be offered free of charge for two-way text messaging only at launch and will use existing satellite spectrum, with no rule changes from the FCC required.
 
If the rumors are true, how good are the chances that this will work outside USA?
For example in EU?
 
Just this year alone, I have been to several cell signal dead zones:
  • Back country skiing in Lake Tahoe and Mammoth Lakes
  • Several famous hiking trails in Kauai
  • Hiking trails and campgrounds at Yosemite
  • Boating in the northern California Coasts
I would've loved to be able to iMessage in these areas.

Is it enough for me to upgrade from iPhone 13 Pro to iPhone 14 Pro? Probably not without a generous upgrade promo, but it's a great carrot nevertheless.

Totally agree here. And this is not a slam at all, but I wonder if the people that don't understand the significance of this feature also don't spend a notable amount of time outdoors (e.g. camping, hiking, boating). I don't mean they're shut-ins ... but unless you spend time in more rural/remote areas this may be hard to fully grasp.
 
If they launch this, I predict they'll help sell it by announcing some statistic like "on average our customers are in no signal areas XX% of the time. The new iPhone YYPro will solve this, and we think you're going to love it."

Keep in mind they get all kinds of usage analytics from the installed hardware base.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5105973
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.