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EXACTLY! The vast majority of Apple’s user base live in metropolitan areas. While what kind of broadband and how fast it is certainly varies based upon where you are located, certainly access to a high speed connection is ubiquitous. The only time his really makes sense is in rural areas, particularly in remote places, where you have zero broadband access. I don’t see apple chasing this set of users. It’s not their MO and for what, to say you can send a text message via a satellite. Yeah, I totally see apple investing billions for that alone…

Wrong on several levels:

From a recent (US) FCC broadband report:

“approximately 19 million Americans—6 percent of the population—still lack access to fixed broadband service at threshold speeds. In rural areas, nearly one-fourth of the population —14.5 million people—lack access to this service. In tribal areas, nearly one-third of the population lacks access. Even in areas where broadband is available, approximately 100 million Americans still do not subscribe.”

Besides, even the lucky people with broadband occasionally move to areas outside their home where there is little or no coverage.

Edit: clarified that this is from the US FCC for our non-American Macrumors friends
 
We need this in Australia as well. As soon as you head out of the main centres there’s very little coverage. Many of my rural friends are already on Starlink as well now and it’s really helped connect remote communities.
I think it will be available everywhere that satellites reach. Doesn't seem to be a reason to limit it to a country
 
Who are you? This will be the largest advancement in cellular technology since the iPhone itself.

If this is even remotely used in the way the rumors are saying it will save lives, provide peace of mind, and be infinitely more useful than any additional pixel count on a camera.

Maybe you live in flatland, USA in the center of metropolis, but half of America doesn’t. Lack of reception is hugely frustrating. Being able to send a text will be a great first step.

Canceling InReach services that use satellites to text with your phone for 12+ bucks a month will be a welcome benefit as well.
And that $12 a month gets you, what, 40 messages a month?

Satellite based connectivity is clearly a huge, huge component of the future communications grid. This would just be the first step.

I, for one, am less than thrilled. We don’t need to disperse the Insta Phone Zombies across every corner of the globe.
 
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Finally someone who sees the bigger picture. People get blinded by the feature itself not thinking that this is just a first step to something bigger. Even if it sounds pointless now this small step is needed.
Also, movies will need to adjust. No more ****** "no signal" horror movies. Now they will be able to use only "no battery" as a complication to their crappy stories :)


Isn't this more about future for Apple Car than iPhone?
 
Worth emphasizing that this rumor is only about messaging, and just text messaging at that.

Still incredibly useful and a definite harbinger of things to come. There are many many places where it simply isn’t feasible to install land-based communication towers. (Although those old enough to remember analog cell days probably recall how amazing the voice coverage in remote areas used to be)
 
Given Musk and Apple have a...well...not great past, we'll be ending up with an Apple competitor getting direct starlink access on handsets at some point in the future, leaving Apple to either not have that ability at all, or use someone like Globalstar, who've got a vastly slower network. Globalstar is absolutely fine if its only for emergency calls, but when we inevitably move to satellite for data and standard calls then Apples got a problem.
If Starlinks solution to this is to use existing 5G bandwidth and this gets approved by regulators, there wouldn't be anything that Apple needed to do. Seems like a win win IMO.
 
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What mainstream problem does this solve? It seems like a minuscule edge case.
Does every issue have to be mainstream in order to be fixed/enhanced? If you're that fairly rare person with an emergency in an area of no cell coverage, you'd pay or do anything to get help. Or would you be satisfied to die out there in the desert because you're a minuscule edge case?
 
Who are you? This will be the largest advancement in cellular technology since the iPhone itself.

If this is even remotely used in the way the rumors are saying it will save lives, provide peace of mind, and be infinitely more useful than any additional pixel count on a camera.

Maybe you live in flatland, USA in the center of metropolis, but half of America doesn’t. Lack of reception is hugely frustrating. Being able to send a text will be a great first step.

Canceling InReach services that use satellites to text with your phone for 12+ bucks a month will be a welcome benefit as well.

Absolutely spot on. Only thing is though I wonder, this is only going to improve coverage when outdoors under clear sky, right? That's where cellular reception already works best anyway.

Definitely would bring some level of coverage to way more people, but my current biggest problem with coverage is indoors. Even the iPhone 13 Pro with two entirely different network operators to choose from usually completely drops out when indoors.

This seems like Apple's first step to becoming their own MVNO so I'm sure that's on the roadmap.
 
Sure, it's not something people will use often, but when it's necessary it can be life saving.

There's vast stretches of highway in sparsely populated areas of the US that have no cellular service. Being able to send messages if you're stranded out there can save your life.

In places like Florida and the Gulf coast, hurricanes can knock out cellular infrastructure and leave people unable to communicate. Being able to send emergency messages, or even "I survived the storm" to family members is a wonderful capability.

It's like a fire extinguisher. It'll sit there for five years collecting dust but when something flares up in your kitchen you'll be glad you have it. It also doesn't cost much extra to implement in today's chipsets.
It's completely incomprehensible that there are people who don't understand this. Who think that every problem that isn't mainstream should be ignored and criticized. I suspect it will be mainstream enough if that person needs to get a message out that may save their life.
 
I recently drove the Pacific Coast Highway from San Francisco to Los Angeles and there were multiple periods where I had no service.
I was genuinely worried about what I would/could have done if I need assistance during these black outs, so this would be a welcome addition.

But so would offline maps…
 
If the rumors are true, how good are the chances that this will work outside USA?
For example in EU?
I doubt it will work here, as usual it will roll out first in the US and then for us Europeans. I'm sure they can't bring it out here at launch due to some bureaucratic limitation. It's a pity because even where I live (Spain), coverage drops a lot when out of the urban areas.

About 8 months ago, while doing downhill biking I hit a rock and fell off my bike. I hit myself pretty hard (broke a rib), and there was no cellular signal. My Apple Watch did go off telling me I took a hard fall, however I had to get my **** together and bike 20km to the hospital, in pain.

If I weren't able to bike or get back by myself (unconscious), I would've had to just wait for some relative to report me missing and pinpoint the area where I usually bike, and wait for rescue, or wake up and drag myself to a spot where there would be signal.

This feature looks good, if it turns out to be true!
 
Worth emphasizing that this rumor is only about messaging, and just text messaging at that.

Still incredibly useful and a definite harbinger of things to come. There are many many places where it simply isn’t feasible to install land-based communication towers. (Although those old enough to remember analog cell days probably recall how amazing the voice coverage in remote areas used to be)
This. Even if I wanted to upgrade, not sure just texting would push me through unless I was an avid outside explorer of territory I have never been to.
 
Compare the Apple Watch Saved My Life stories with GlobalStar's Saved By SPOT campaign.

Having a heart issue is an edge case, but you might want to have a device that can alert you to potential problems. Running into problems while hiking might be an edge case, but you might want to have a device that can get an SOS out when it's needed.
 
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