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Apple and Huawei Close Gap on Samsung in Global Smartphone Market
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You forgot to add "yet" at the end. The 6 just rolled out last year. Many people are on 2-year upgrade cycles.
BUT, I agree that it would have been better if they had rolled out a 4" too... not because I want one myself (I always judged that size too small for my big hands), but because there are those people that prefer smaller phones. I'm always in favor of trying to give consumer segments what they want instead of trying to make consumers like it the way a corporation wants to serve it up (and yes, I know all about the old "faster horse" Ford reference; I just don't share Ford's view of all consumers being so ignorant they couldn't imagine what they want... especially in iterative new models of anything. By the way, Ford is also credited with trying to outthink ignorant consumers again with car colors: "they can have any color car they want... as long as it is black"... which failed to stick when consumer wallets voted for competitor cars of various colors such that it was biting into Ford's revenues & profits.).
And Apple had made a consistent case for "one-handed use" and similar while ridiculing bigger sizes before they rolled out their own bigger sizes. So it seems that if they actually believed what they had been spinning all those years, they would have shown that belief by making bigger-screen versions additional options- rather than the only new model options- and letting the consumers vote for favorites with their wallets.
Nevertheless, Apple now has $205 Billion or so banked with record sales just reported and I don't. So per common logic oft-slung around here, clearly Apple knows best.
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Like embedded code to spy on people?
I will never trust Huawei as far as I can throw them.
I always hate these comparisons because they ignore the fact that the vast majority of smartphones that Samsung sells are bottom of the barrel trash. There should be comparisons that only include smartphones in Apple's price/performance category, S6, S6 Edge, etc.
Right, because you trust the NSA statements here? Like when they said we have no evidence but they are a chinese company so they might be spying on you??
Seems like the NSA meant to say don't use Huawei because we can't spy on you.
Reminds me of that old quip about the burger count McDonald's would post on their signs: "Billions and billions served." And the reply was: "But they don't say how many were eaten."
If I was into Android, Huawei would be on my top three list - after Sony and Motorola
They are however also a huge networking and telecommunications equipment company, with a recorded 2014 profit of 5.5 Billion USD who currently serve 90% of the world's largest telecom operators, hence my comment.
I believe that's what it is. Ha, I didn't know that about the phones supporting it but not shipping with the right charger. Sounds about right though.
HTC hasn't been on that chart in years.
I think HTC only sells a couple million phones a quarter nowadays.
HTC still gets a lot of media coverage... but they aren't a major player anymore. And haven't been for a while.
Also in terms of money... HTC posts quarterly losses more often than they have quarterly profits.
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30% is pretty significant when most people regard the smartphone market as fairly mature.
Samsung is a full-line smartphone OEM. They sell expensive flagships all the way down to $50 smartphones in China and India.
They move a lot of units which is why they are on top of this chart.
Unfortunately... some of those units barely make a dime.
So your hypothesis is correct... Samsung has the highest volume... but very little profit per unit.
And then there's Apple who has the 2nd highest volume... but makes a ton of profit per unit.
They're each playing a different game.
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No other manufacturer can even come close to Apple products when it comes to the bezel size
umm I'm guessing if someone purchases something from Ebay it will be shipped to the customer? So you are saying all phones Shipped to the Cellular Companies are free and will be paid back at a later time?
Because it's better than a Samsung and costs less ?
mate, it's something like 90% of global smartphone profits for Apple
Apple basically sells only high end devices, while the huge number of samsung is mainly composed by mid and low level cheap devices ....
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By "shipments", IDC means devices sold either into the distribution channel or to end users.
It is the same "sold" definition that both Apple and Samsung use. A shipment to a retailer is counted as a sale by both, because it's been paid for and the responsibility for the unit has been passed.
A direct sale from an Apple store to an end user is also counted after it is in the hands of the purchaser, but those are the minority of iPhone sales. The vast majority of Apple sales (IIRC, 80%) are to carriers and other retail outlets.
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1: Samsung didn't lose money in mobile, and have NOT been losing money. What they were doing was seeing their overall profits shrink. But were still making profits on their devices. However, they just announced that the last quarter saw their profits start to grow again for the first time since the S4 launch.
2: Profit is a misleading indicator of market adoption when the companies have vastly different business strategies. See my post about that in a nother thread.
Samsung also has smaller profit margins in their devices because they generally put "more" into their devices, which costs them more to produce and manufacture, thus decreasing their margins.
Neither of this indicates any market impact, nor health of the industry.
