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After years of underachieving CPU partnerships it finally seems that Apple has found a partner that can deliver, and wants to deliver, for Apple.

And also a partner that seems to share Apple's fondness for innovation
 
... Apple with have....

now that Toshiba has developed a 1.8" 7200 HDD suitable for the MBA, http://www.toshibastorage.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives all obstacles to that venue have been removed,at least in my eyes. maker:rolleyes::cool::D

Sorry to rain on your parade grandpa, but this HDD doesn't fit MBA, on many counts, leave alone it's not 7K.
On a consolation, I was looking in the ways of bending bottom case to fit two-platter, but decided ZIF/PATA is ultimate deal breaker.

Hope they innovate enough next time to include contemporary interfaces.
So, looking forward to a Rev.2 MBA with SATA & ability to install aftermarket SDDs without any hassle. (Opening MBA or MBP is not a hassle ;)))
 
a post from 3 years ago on the official Apple Intel switch announcement thread where everyone were saying a a terrible catastrophe this was

Jun 6, 2005, 02:41 PM
Chimera
macrumors regular

It'll be odd i guess telling stubborn PC users that the mac is now using pentiums, but hopefully in 4 years when everything has settled everyone will see this as a masterstroke (4 years is a long time though )

Well, we didn't have to wait 4 years to see that you were right Chimera, it WAS a masterstroke ;-)

I must say that I was one of those who looked at the announcement as a catastrophe. It wasn't because Apple was going Intel, but more of the fact that OS X would be coded for Intel chips and that people would be able to run OS X without a Apple computer. PearPC was able to do that, but it wasn't anything like owning a real Apple computer.

Turns out people did figure out a way to build a "Hackintosh" (OSx86), but it got a bunch of them to actually invest in a real Apple computer.

Anyway, I enjoyed the Motorola 68k and PPC era and now I'm enjoying the Intel x86 era. I kind of got tired of waiting for that G5 laptop and I'm glad that Apple is getting very close to having something in the 3GHz range in their laptops.
 
Or they indeed might get "aggressive" enough, and introduce 14-15" MBA.
Which in fact will/can be MBAirPro.

And it's entirely possible :
- with cooler CPUs weeks away, they can build a slimmer chassis (say 0.85" with MBA'styled edges. And retain 2.4-2.53 CPU speeds for just 2/3 power)
- ditch DVDD (external USB)
- keep 2.5" 320GB suckers (nothing beats them overall yet)
- install half-decent 9300GS class GPU (or even 9600GT with switch to x4500 to keep it cool when not "gaming")

Or it may not be/called, a "Pro", in a sense we used to, but the point is, with a bigger chassis, they have more space to build a less restricted system.
Then we'd nave best of both worlds : "style" & "power"
 
kinda unfair characterization of Intel's response on Apple's request for a tiny chip. Intel didn't say they couldn't help, but that they, at first, didn't think they could help quickly.

Apple didn’t say exactly what it needed the package for, and Intel engineers at first thought they couldn’t help. “Initially we either said, ‘We don’t have that,’ or ‘We have that on a roadmap 3-4 years from now,’ ” Rattner says.
 
kinda unfair characterization of Intel's response on Apple's request for a tiny chip.

Hey, cmon, don't you know that world spins around :apple:? and that SJ is a Prophet of a Proper way?
And that He knows best, and everything is set in His covenant ?

:D:p;) It's Mac site bro, enjoy the spin :rolleyes:
 
Now if only the update the mini.

Well, the Macbook Air's processor is 60% smaller, the 1.8" hard drive is rougly 69% smaller than a 2.5" drive. So let's make the Mac Mini smaller! Away with the Combo Drive! If you really need it, get the 99 Superdrive. The DVI would have to be replaced by a mini-DVI connector to fit 2 USB and one Firewire port but it would work!

Nah, I'm just kidding. But the Mac Mini could serioulsy need an update. I say bump up the CPU to 2.0 and 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM limit and put the current Intel graphics in there, better yet a real GPU but that's not gonna happen.

I'm happy with my Mac Mini. Great media center and home server. Can't beat the low power usage of that thing. Only wish the fans would be less noisy.
 
btw. - isn't it interesting that a concept involving a "thin chip for use in an extremely thin computer" is something intel had to "put on the back burner after PC makers gave it a ho-hum reception"?
 
Well, the Macbook Air's processor is 60% smaller, the 1.8" hard drive is rougly 69% smaller than a 2.5" drive. So let's make the Mac Mini smaller! Away with the Combo Drive! If you really need it, get the 99 Superdrive. The DVI would have to be replaced by a mini-DVI connector to fit 2 USB and one Firewire port but it would work!

Nah, I'm just kidding. But the Mac Mini could serioulsy need an update. I say bump up the CPU to 2.0 and 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM limit and put the current Intel graphics in there, better yet a real GPU but that's not gonna happen.

I'm happy with my Mac Mini. Great media center and home server. Can't beat the low power usage of that thing. Only wish the fans would be less noisy.

Screw mini-DVI, HDMI and the right Cable will give you most of the DVI output you loss compatiblity with Analog like VGA but still who wants that anymore?
 
MBA revision 2

Boy I hope one of the secret projects is a custom Montevina 2.6 GHZ MBA with at least a 120 GB, 7200 rpm, 1.8" drive.

With a release date of July 14th.
 
Yeah, Apple's pricing has always sucked.

A poll asked people why they didn't buy iPhone, 56% said price.

I think it's the same case with the Mac, but of course they just can't take a hit of their GIGANTIC profit margin.
People not buying a product because it's expensive? Gee, glad someone did some polling to figure that one out... For the life of me I couldn't figure out why more people weren't buying $500+ smart phones, $50,000+ cars, or $2mil+ houses.


Lethal
 
Based on AnandTech's review of the MacBook Air CPU, I believe it uses the 22mm package. Intel is releasing a slew of Penryn's in the 22mm package to support Montevina, so I could see those showing up in future MBA's. I expect the most likely to be:

SP9400 (2.4GHz, 6MB, 25W, 1,066MHz FSB)
SP9300 (2.26GHz, 6MB, 25W, 1,066MHz FSB)
SL9400 (1.86GHz, 6MB, 17W, 1,066MHz FSB)
SL9300 (1.6GHz, 6MB, 17W, 1,066MHz FSB)
 
Based on AnandTech's review of the MacBook Air CPU, I believe it uses the 22mm package. Intel is releasing a slew of Penryn's in the 22mm package to support Montevina, so I could see those showing up in future MBA's. I expect the most likely to be:

SP9400 (2.4GHz, 6MB, 25W, 1,066MHz FSB)
SP9300 (2.26GHz, 6MB, 25W, 1,066MHz FSB)
SL9400 (1.86GHz, 6MB, 17W, 1,066MHz FSB)
SL9300 (1.6GHz, 6MB, 17W, 1,066MHz FSB)

Those would make for a pretty sweet ultra-portable!
 
Sorry to rain on your parade grandpa, but this HDD doesn't fit MBA, on many counts, leave alone it's not 7K.
On a consolation, I was looking in the ways of bending bottom case to fit two-platter, but decided ZIF/PATA is ultimate deal breaker.

Hope they innovate enough next time to include contemporary interfaces.
So, looking forward to a Rev.2 MBA with SATA & ability to install aftermarket SDDs without any hassle. (Opening MBA or MBP is not a hassle ;)))

It shouldn't require much effort to move to SATA in AIR. One has to wonder why they didn't in the first place.

Of course this is just one short coming tat Apple needs to address with AIR.

Dave
 
So are other PC manufacturers stuck with the standard Intel fare, while Apple gets the smaller stuff? I'm only asking because I wonder how other manufacturers are building their small laptops? The article makes Apple look like Intels only customer for these chips, but maybe Apple was just the customer who requested the product and got the ball rolling for Intel? Maybe Apple isn't getting any additional benefit from Intel for their inquisitiveness, other than maybe first dibs at the small chips, and future small chips.

People not buying a product because it's expensive? Gee, glad someone did some polling to figure that one out... For the life of me I couldn't figure out why more people weren't buying $500+ smart phones, $50,000+ cars, or $2mil+ houses.


Lethal

Exactly.

It's better than Aston Martin. Last year, 99.99% of people didn't buy one instead of price. AM should smarten up.
 
Screw mini-DVI, HDMI and the right Cable will give you most of the DVI output you loss compatiblity with Analog like VGA but still who wants that anymore?

Unfortunately, when traveling and needing to hook up to someone else's projector, VGA is the only choice I'm given most of the time.
 
I Like Profitable Companies

Apple is known to have some of the biggest proft margins in the industry.

I gotta say, I think profitable companies often produce more interesting products. I like Apple's design, innovation, and even most of their marketing. Those things take money to do right.

I might not be able to afford a BMW Z4 M, a Bang and Olufsen BeoSound 9000, or an Apple Macbook Pro but I still enjoy and appreciate them despite the probably very healthy margins on the products. I'm happy not every single product in the market is insanely focused on price. And I'm happy there are people around who can pay for these things:).
 
I gotta say, I think profitable companies often produce more interesting products. I like Apple's design, innovation, and even most of their marketing. Those things take money to do right.

I might not be able to afford a BMW Z4 M, a Bang and Olufsen BeoSound 9000, or an Apple Macbook Pro but I still enjoy and appreciate them despite the probably very healthy margins on the products. I'm happy not every single product in the market is insanely focused on price. And I'm happy there are people around who can pay for these things:).

Well, the funny thing about Apple is that they are indeed focused on price, they're just not letting the end consumer benefit from it. This coming from someone who just bought a pair of Grado PS1 (headphones) at the bargain price of 1100US$ (it's not a typo).

I don't mind paying for quality, and I do when I feel it's indeed the quality I'm paying for (which is why my next computer will be a thinkpad, and not yet another MBP).
Speaking of B&O: I am currently saving my money to buy a pair of Beolab 5s although I got sticker chock. But after having heard them in a studio, there's no doubt that I cannot get any better speakers for the money (I kid you not), even if it is B&O.
Btw, B&O aren't really "profitable", you know.

Anyway, my point was merely that Apple don't have "LOW" profit margins, as the poster claimed. Quite the contrary, in fact.
 
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