Apple and News Corp Teaming Up on Tablet-Focused News Service

[Full of Win]

Hey quit being political.

Who cares who makes the app, if it changes the industry for the better so be it. I don't see CNN stepping up to the plate.

Exactly. Something like this cannot be thrown together with a few camcorders and a pirated copy of FInalCut Pro running on a MacBook. First, this is not something that can be stopped if it does not work out; there will be a long term commitment to keeping it going. Also, this will take money, and a lot of it. News Corp may fall flat on its face, but at least it is, if reports are correct, willing to pony up the resources to try.

All I see from others (e.g CNN) is a overblown RSS feed that they like to call an App.

 

[CFreymarc]

They are quite fair and a reputable news outlet. Don't want to get too far off topic, but News Corp will be an outstanding partner for Apple in their first foray into the news providing business.

If you are not a fan of News Corp, so be it. I for one will enjoy using their news app that they are working on with Apple.

Same here brother. Love the Gadsden flag on your post. I have one on my bike and made a lot of good friends from it.

(http://www.gadsden.info/)

 

[toypadlock]

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Is this in the same way that Fox News/Sky News (in the UK) isn't the place for political debate either?

I understand that people are saying this will encourage other people to launch iPad news services, but the fact that it's such a close partnership (apparently) will clearly mean Apple will give preferential treatment to NewsCorp. I doubt Murdoch would invest so heavily in this if there was no exclusivity guarantee.

And come on... quality journalism?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELJh2bTK1ew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkHwU4DRA8&t=4m30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDYalpZhG_8

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Is this in the same way that Fox News/Sky News (in the UK) isn't the place for political debate either?

I understand that people are saying this will encourage other people to launch iPad news services, but the fact that it's such a close partnership (apparently) will clearly mean Apple will give preferential treatment to NewsCorp. I doubt Murdoch would invest so heavily in this if there was no exclusivity guarantee.

Knee jerk response to Fox News? NewsCorp? Rupert Murdoch? Maybe you missed the part that said it won't be exclusive to the App Store -- think Kindle, Nook, Android... any place NewCorp can put it for sale because it thinks tablets, not paper, are the future. If it were Al Gore heading up this project you'd think it was forward thinking rather than want to shout it down. Ha.Pocricy.

Also, I've seen no evidence Apple is giving preferential treatment to NewsCorp. All the iDevices ads I see still use NYT as THE news app. Never once seen the Fox News app icon or screen in a general iDevice ad. But when you say "exclusivity guarantee" let me know when Apple starts yanking all non-NewCorp news apps off the App Store. Then you'll have a point instead of an paranoid rant.

 

[toypadlock]

Knee jerk response to Fox News? NewsCorp? Rupert Murdoch? Maybe you missed the part that said it won't be exclusive to the App Store -- think Kindle, Nook, Android... any place NewCorp can put it for sale because it thinks tablets, not paper, are the future. If it were Al Gore heading up this project you'd think it was forward thinking rather than want to shout it down. Ha.Pocricy.

Also, I've seen no evidence Apple is giving preferential treatment to NewsCorp. All the iDevices ads I see still use NYT as THE news app. Never once seen the Fox News app icon or screen in a general iDevice ad. But when you say "exclusivity guarantee" let me know when Apple starts yanking all non-NewCorp news apps off the App Store. Then you'll have a point instead of an paranoid rant.

Yeah, because exclusivity can only consist of taking all apps off the app store. Things aren't always black and whi-

Oh wait, I'm probably not best off trying to explain the idea of things other than black and white to a Fox supporter...

Anyway, this is clearly receiving preferential treatment. Look at the pricing structure for gods' sake.

 

[maloderous]

huffington post, AP, Thompson, fluent news

take your pick, and all free

LuLz. Communist tripe.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Yeah, because exclusivity can only consist of taking all apps off the app store. Things aren't always black and whi-

Oh wait, I'm probably not best off trying to explain the idea of things other than black and white to a Fox supporter...

Anyway, this is clearly receiving preferential treatment. Look at the pricing structure for gods' sake.

Price structure? Last I checked Apple does not determine the prices of any news apps. Many are even free. Also there is this little thing called the Sherman Antitrust Act which would preclude Apple from engaging in predatory pricing. So please explain what you mean by "exclusivity." From what you write you really don't understand the definition because "exclusive" means to be the sole person or thing... it excludes all others.

Oh, and nice ad hominem attack. Is that all you can do. How about arguing on the facts since you claim the reason you don't like FN/NewsCorp/Rupert Murdoch is because they don't present them.

 

[karlwig]

big fan of the foxnews approach (e.g. Fair and balanced reporting)

The reporting on Fox News is parhaps fair in your view, but it's hardly "balanced" in respect to different views. In fact, most of the "news" on Fox News isn't news reporting at all -- it's commentary. If you're a big fan of that, great, but call it what it is.

Of course, you just wrote their marketing slogan, so I doubt you put too much thought into that anyway.

 

[Ugg]

Fast Company has a pretty good analysis of Apple and The Daily.

The biggest point for me, is that it looks to be a US centric model. If that's the case, then I'm not sure this will have any success because it will be walled off and from the initial reports, have limited updates throughout the day. IMO, the horse is already out of the gate regarding static newsupdates, and even the most basic RSS feed will have multiple updates throughout the day.

FC also brings up the fact that

The London Times's online paywall experiment resulted in such a drastic hemorrhage of site visitors the publication had to return to free access for a while, and no one's sure now how badly it's doing.

Murdoch is putting plenty of money into his papers, but so far there's little sign of any payoff. I wonder how long his shareholders will support this.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Fast Company has a pretty good analysis of Apple and The Daily.

The biggest point for me, is that it looks to be a US centric model. If that's the case, then I'm not sure this will have any success because it will be walled off and from the initial reports, have limited updates throughout the day....

FC also brings up the fact that

Murdoch is putting plenty of money into his papers, but so far there's little sign of any payoff. I wonder how long his shareholders will support this.

1) Seems like "rolled out" might be a better description. You know like how the iPhone is, a few countries at a time. The U.S. will be the beta. We'll probably see regional editions (like the WSJ print does) as time goes on.

2) WSJ print and electronic is quite profitable. In fact WSJ has the honors of being the only paper w/ a profitable e-wall. WSJ app has been slow on the uptake, but that has to do more w/ the way the app works and is designed than the paper itself.

3) Big picture this endeavor is peanuts to Newscorp (think of out expensive all those 20th Century Fox movie bombs like My Name is Khan cost). Not sure shareholders will even notice it in the annual report.

 

[Ugg]

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2) WSJ print and electronic is quite profitable. In fact WSJ has the honors of being the only paper w/ a profitable e-wall. WSJ app has been slow on the uptake, but that has to do more w/ the way the app works and is designed than the paper itself.

The WSJ print edition has always been expensive and has a fairly narrow market so I don't think you can directly compare the WSJ to The Daily. Unless The Daily is able to set itself apart in some significant way, I really doubt its viability.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

The WSJ print edition has always been expensive and has a fairly narrow market so I don't think you can directly compare the WSJ to The Daily. Unless The Daily is able to set itself apart in some significant way, I really doubt its viability.

Narrow market? Thanks for giving me the evidence to prove you know not what you are talking about. If you did you would know the WSJ is the largest newspaper in the U.S. That's quite a narrow market.

 

[HyperZboy]

huffington post, AP, Thompson, fluent news

take your pick, and all free

I wouldn't put those 3 in the same sentence honestly.

huffington post is a blog pretending to be a newspaper.

The AP and Reuters are REAL news wires and significantly more credible.

While I don't agree with a lot of FOX News' pundits (particularly bat sht crazy Glenn Beck), I have a good feeling that if Apple and Steve Jobs are involved in this, it's not going to be an app for Shock Pundits' right wing blabbering.

FOX News is currently the "Cause Celeb Messenger to Attack" right now.

But let's not forget, Apple is a business and FOX's election coverage outdrew not only all the other U.S. cable news networks, but ALSO ABC, CBS, & NBC News!

Apple is a business, you market where the people are, not where they aren't!

While I have my concerns, I'll wait to see the finished product before passing judgment.

Hopefully, some other news organization will attempt the same thing. It's clear from Steve Jobs comments that he's disappointed in the decline of newspapers and real news in America. I'm sure Jobs lured other news organizations. At least News Corp stepped up to the plate and put their money where their mouth is.

For those just posting just to slam FOX News, I say, well, where are the OTHER news organizations? Put up or shut up.

 

[CFreymarc]

When did it become competitive... we're talking about no matter how many times the label 'Fair and Balanced' is used... the content remains the same and biased...
Thus... the Murdoch app will eventually fizzle out due to blatant misrepresentation and bias...

Welcome to sheer nature and survival of the most able. One social studies friend of mine did a survey correlating drug abuse and self proclaim political affiliation. She found that those that claim to be "liberal" were five times more likely to be using illegal drugs on a recreation basis.

While her methods were stable and statistically verifiable, her university refused to publish the findings. That is a bias and lack of confronting reality.

 

[Thex1138]

Welcome to sheer nature and survival of the most able. One social studies friend of mine did a survey correlating drug abuse and self proclaim political affiliation. She found that those that claim to be "liberal" were five times more likely to be using illegal drugs on a recreation basis.

While her methods were stable and statistically verifiable, her university refused to publish the findings. That is a bias and lack of confronting reality.

Troll

Enjoy your slanted and biased reading kid... Murdoch aims his opinionated presenters, as opposed to factual/unbiased news at 6th graders, not the general populace... So anyway... Good luck with that boyoh...

 

[CFreymarc]

Troll

Enjoy your slanted and biased reading kid... Murdoch aims his opinionated presenters, as opposed to factual/unbiased news at 6th graders, not the general populace... So anyway... Good luck with that boyoh...

I'm complemented.

 

[0311947]

The Negative Comments Posted Here Are Baseless

I understand that many people in the Mac community are socially liberal, and Murdoch would hardly fit into that category. It should be said, however, that he puts out great products. My Wall Street Journal subscription is invaluable, and provides the most objective news out there. The articles, particularly their investigative journalism, are the best out there. I just ignore the opinion page! As for Fox, Skynews, and his other tabloid sites - they can be very over-opinionated, but they are cutting-edge in presentation and design. If this EXCLUSIVE iPad channel comes out then I will be one of the first to subscribe (as soon as I grab an iPad!). This is an amazing idea and could show the future of the media. Don't worry, I am sure CNN and the others will have their own channels after a period of time. Being black and white is no way to go in life. Not everything Murdoch does is evil, there are gray areas in all journalism.

 

[Kauai]

I would so subscribe to this. Big fan of the FoxNews approach (e.g. Fair and Balanced reporting) and News Corp in general.

More like Faux news. If donating $1M to the Republican Governors Association and $1M to the Chamber of Commerce is your idea of Fair and Balanced I must have woken up in upside down land!