Apple and Overall PC Industry Post Solid Shipment Gains in Fourth Quarter 2009

[alent1234]

They did. Which is why they really aren't making any money.

http://microelectronics.cbronline.c...ed_as_q4_revenue_dips_20_to_17_billion_130509

Toshiba in the red as Q4 revenue dips 20% to $17 billion
Published:13-May-2009
By Datamonitor staff writer

Sales in Europe fell 47% to $1.9 billion

Toshiba has reported a net loss of JPY 184 billion ($1.9 billion) for the fourth quarter 2008, compared to net profit of JPY 1.25 billion ($12.6m) in the year-ago quarter, on revenue down 20.4% at JPY 1,671.5 billion ($16.9 billion). It made an operating loss of JPY 182.9 billion ($1.8 billion), compared to JPY 4.6 billion ($46.8m) in the year-ago quarter.


http://www.itworld.com/business/68159/hp-revenue-drops-tough-climate

HP revenue drops in tough climate
by Robert McMillan

May 19, 2009, 07:35 PM — IDG News Service —
Computer industry bellwether Hewlett-Packard reported a 3 percent drop in revenue as its major lines of business continued to be hammered by the global recession.

The company also became the latest technology vendor to resort to layoffs in order to cut costs. Over the next 12 months, HP will lay off about 2 percent of its work force, or about 6,000 employees, HP Chief Financial Officer Cathie Lesjak said during a conference call with financial analysts Tuesday. HP employs 321,000 worldwide.


These box-makers are bleeding money left and right. It's all about the race to the bottom. Cheaper, crippled hardware at low prices is the name of the game.

HP and Dell have a huge corporate presence and that's where the money is made. the consumer stuff is like Coke selling soda/pop cans in a grocery store. no profit but it's done for branding purposes. all the money in soda is in the syrup sold to the bottlers.

 

[alent1234]

Ok, everyone bashing netbooks on here needs to chill. Netbooks serve a very important purpose in the computer industry. They allow people who otherwise would not be able to afford a computer to finally be able to get one. Many of these people simply want a computer to check email and play games online (such as those silly bejeweled type games). They don't need a $1500 dollar Macbook pro to do that, and will never buy them. The market is completely different.

My sister bought a netbook this year for her 3 and 4 year old girls so they would stop using her $1500 dollar HP Tablet computer. It works perfectly for the girls, they can go to their disney, and all their fun little kid sites and stay off mom's computer. Total cost for mom to get her computer back: $300. While we're on the discussion of tablets, she bought it because she thought it would be "cool", but in all reality, she NEVER uses the tablet side of the computer.

My room mate has a netbook. He uses it every day, and told me he will never need anything else. He prefers the netbook over a traditional laptop because they are portable, and affordable, and he doesn't have to stress out as much about "what if someone steals my backpack with my laptop in it" or whatever else.

For me, I have my Macbook pro, love it, and couldn't imagine downgrading to a tiny 8-9 inch screen, and a slow processor. I convert videos, edit music, edit photos, and do a lot of stuff that simply wouldn't work on the netbook.

However, someday, I may get a netbook for my "Casual travel" needs where I don't need my powerful laptop (or perhaps don't want to worry about it being stolen from my hotel room when I go out to dinner).

the elitists laugh, but a lot of the new $300 netbooks are more powerful than a $1000 Macbook

 

[lilo777]

the elitists laugh, but a lot of the new $300 netbooks are more powerful than a $1000 Macbook

Or at least they have HDMI ports But yo are wrong calling these people elitits. There is nothing elitists about defending Apple for not having a netbook in their lineup. That is just a nature of Apple cult. The same people defend Apple for not having HDMI ports, BluRay DVD support, any normal desktop models etc.

 

[alent1234]

i've never bought anything from iTunes, but may start buying. just waiting for the 27th announcement. the kids stuff like Dora and Little Einsteins is a lot cheaper than DVD. and my HP laptop's HDMI port is nice for watching Hulu on my TV

 

[MorphingDragon]

It's the hardware that Apple should be using.

Burn!

Except aren't people complaining that the Envys overheat and die? Its all well and good having quad but only if the factor can handle it.

 

[Eidorian]

Burn!

Except aren't people complaining that the Envys overheat and die? Its all well and good having quad but only if the factor can handle it.

Removing the internal optical drive seems to open up the cooling for a more powerful GPU. In addition there are intakes as well for air flow.

 

[christian_k]

5th place is a fine showing. Apple and its shareholders care about profits, not sales.

No, they have to care for market share.

Windows (and related products and services) will not disappear in the near future, so buying a computer from a small company is as future proof as buying from Dell or HP. That means a PC maker with 0,01% market share can survive and make profits and its customers and shareholders are happy.

But Apple is different. No one else uses Mac OS X. They need to keep market share above a certain level to keep related products and services - the "eco sytem" alive.

I don't think Apple is in danger to fall under a critical line. But they have to care.

Christian