Then how accurate is this comparison because, most of the time, I find what those analysts say is rubbish.
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Apple and Samsung Tied as World's Largest Smartphone Makers in Q4 2014 [Updated]
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Then how accurate is this comparison because, most of the time, I find what those analysts say is rubbish.
That's why I switched to the Samsung Galaxy G4S X150-Z R20 XTRA 7. It has the feature that makes it taste like hotcakes. Although admittedly it after a few months it starts to taste more like old sauerkraut.
It's the same thing. When Apple says "sold", they mean "shipped to stores".
That's also what analysts usually mean when they cite either "shipments" or "sales".
Unless they explictly say so, they are not talking about "sold through to end user".
Actually, on a quarterly basis that's only true about half the time. The other half, store inventories increase because retailers have bought more than they could sell that quarter.
And overall, the total of such channel inventory rises every year. Here's an older chart of Apple's increases:
The predicted future lines are pretty accurate, as (according to Apple) there are currently over 16 million iPhones sitting in store inventories, and around 5 million iPads.
You misread their statements. Those aren't totals, but relative shifts. I.e. it was 200K less, and 1.1 million more. See previous response.
On the contrary, Samsung's sales didn't take off until they STOPPED looking so similar, and started to differentiate themselves.
Yep, it's amazing how Apple is able to keep their ASP up. Selling bigger phones at this moment in China really helped, but that dynamic could change:
It'll be interesting to see if their China momentum can continue in 2015, now that China's carriers are under government mandate to cut back on subsidies. Of course, Apple could offer their own loan programs.
Heh. I think Jobs was so embarrassed at how the ROKR turned out, he felt he had to make up for it with something spectacular. Thus the iPhone
Right there with you - best Android OEM in my opinion. Sleek hardware, efficient software....they used to rule Android and were really the ones to start the move to larger displays.
But alas, they didn't market themselves the way Samsung has and don't have the weight to throw around like Samsung has.
I am glad for that, but it's a shame they get so overlooked by Samsung because they make the closest thing to an iPhone for Android. I Loved the HTC One.
Haha...so true.
When will those people learn their lesson?
Imagine if it was Apple who reported a 2 million unit decrease in sales and a 27% decrease in quarterly profits.....
The interwebs would explode.
That's what gets me scratching my head about Android fans...they tend to ignore the best Android hardware. I've seen one HTC One out in the wild...only one.
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Ha...and the flood of Android fanboys posting on this site would crash the macrumors servers for weeks.
LOL. What? The best smartphone right now is Note 4 hands down.
Soon they will release the S6 in two variants. And believe me (i am a tester) the "other" variant of the S6 is so sweet and probably has the best design of any smartphone ever. Just wait and see.
P.S. I'm no Samsung fanboy, actually i have an i6 right now.
Yup. And its odd that Samsung's mobile profits have fallen by huge margins but the estimated unit sales from IDC and Strategy Analytics have not similarly fallen. These analysts always seem to give Samsung the benefit of the doubt.
Interestingly, because of Apple's once-a-year-updates, their sales, revenue and profits do often fluctuate like that on a quarterly basis.
However, year over year each quarter tends to increase.
Apple is like someone on a trampoline, bouncing a little bit higher each time, and really dependent on a giant yearly push.
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Samsung is a different dynamic, more of a smooth curve, with less radical changes per quarter.
They're like someone gliding to a height, then drifting downward. They need to figure out where the next updraft is.
Phones with folding displays could possibly fulfill that role.
The reason they have less variation is simple, they release a huge number of phones models at various time of year. Also, Samsung phones rarely excite the masses, so you don't get that peek of interest.
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Right... Having actually used it I totally absolutely disagree. As for the S6, Samsung better hit it out of the park because they're going to have a very bad 2015 otherwise. Maybe even a loss.
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The LG G2 was LG's most successful phone to date. They're one of only 3 makers (other being Samsung and Apple) who turned a profit last year. But, its still pittance.
FYI: According to the numbers that I found, Apple's 2014 iPhone revenue (Q2 2014 to Q1 2015) is $120 billion, while Samsung 2014 phone revenue was $97 billion dollar (107 trillion Won). Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31033639
The Apple number is only iPhone, that is no iPads and no iPods, while Samsung revenue includes smartphones and dumb phones.
So even though this is the first quarter for a while where Apple smartphone unit sales matched Samsung smartphone sales, over the last 12 months iPhone revenue has been 23% higher than Samsung revenue from smart phones, and about 20 million non-smart phones.
Since Apple's sales have been vastly increasing over that period while Samsung has been crashing down, the difference should become a lot bigger over the next quarters.
The Apple number is only iPhone, that is no iPads and no iPods, while Samsung revenue includes smartphones and dumb phones.
So even though this is the first quarter for a while where Apple smartphone unit sales matched Samsung smartphone sales, over the last 12 months iPhone revenue has been 23% higher than Samsung revenue from smart phones, and about 20 million non-smart phones.
Since Apple's sales have been vastly increasing over that period while Samsung has been crashing down, the difference should become a lot bigger over the next quarters.
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Hundreds of threads on this site wouldn't exist. In fact, Cisco and other big-iron vendors probably would have sold far fewer routers, servers, etc. because this debate wouldn't have driven so much Internet traffic.
317.2 versus 192.7 for 2014.
Yeah, looks like Samsung is really on their way out to me...
Let's start the doom and gloom.
Since the 6/6+, Samsung has been on the ropes. They pretty much have been living off niches where Apple has not been playing (large screens and low-end). But as of now, they have to live off low-margin entry level product.
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For financial reporting, quarters are compared to the same quarter last year. Always. Since Apple has been making major updates almost like clockwork on an annual basis, the fluctuation isn't all that great.
Hmmm....to bad nobody wants to buy one.
Mine is out for delivery today. I picked the Note 4 over the 6+ because of the lack of ram on the 6+.
I know two people at my job who have Note 4s and not one person I know has iPhones except me and that is a 5S.
Wow...you should organize a Note 4 owners club at your company.
Congratulations on your new Note 4. Enjoy it while you can 'cause it might be one of the last phones Samsung produces. Hang on to it...it might eventually become a novelty item.
You know Samsung isn't going anywhere, right? I know you are obviously joking!
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Shipped and sold ara two different things.
Apple reports sold numbers
Samdung reports shipped numbers...
Apple reports sold numbers
Samdung reports shipped numbers...
The year over year was what I was referring to.
But the obvious reasons for the differences are release timelines. Samsung is constantly releasing new devices - their primary releases are late Spring and Fall, but they always have new stuff being released.
They also play in the low-end market in which annual updates/releases really aren't a big deal.
Apple has one release date each year. They play in one segment of the market.
No, Apple said that they wanted to take 1% of the phone market in 2008, which they did.
A couple of years ago I didn't think BlackBerry and Nokia were going anywhere either...
That doesn't make much difference anymore.
It made a difference for devices that failed completely - shipping a million devices and 800,000 are returned. It still makes a difference when someone claims they sold 10 million devices in three days, and really they were only shipped and are sold over three months.
But in the long term, it makes no difference.