Apple and Tim Cook Commemorate Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Today is Martin Luther King Jr. Day in the United States, an annual federal holiday commemorating the American civil rights movement leader.


Apple today honored the life of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. with a full-page tribute on its website. A photo of Dr. King is accompanied by an iconic quote of his: "Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly."

On Monday, Apple CEO Tim Cook commemorated Martin Luther King Jr. Day in a follow-up tweet.



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threesixty360

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Laughable. If you really believe that you would not build your product on back of slave labours (often time political prisoners) underaged workers and third world country wages.
oh please... bring me a product you use that is not built in the same place as apple's stuff?
Talk is cheap man. If you're going to say stuff like that you'd better be beyond reproach in your personal choices.
 

manni

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oh please... bring me a product you use that is not built in the same place as apple's stuff?
Talk is cheap man. If you're going to say stuff like that you'd better be beyond reproach in your personal choices.
While it’s true that nearly everyone is complicit with buying stuff from China, Cook’s hypocrisy is so deep it’s worth pointing it out.

He quite literally took orders from a blood soaked tyranny to take down an app that pro democracy protestors were using. It’s no different from cooperating with Nazi Germany in the 1930s. Cook is no friend of the oppressed.
 

manni

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It’s bleakly funny of course that on economic grounds Tim Cook would be about the strongest opponent one would ever find of King’s policies. King would denounce Cook for things like tax “efficient” approaches and corporate pay levels in the strongest terms possible.

The whole thing is just tedious. After Cook’s cooperation with China’s tyrannical crackdown on pro democracy protestors and also Cook being called out for virtue signalling on Twitter about the environment while taking private jets (and ludicrously having lawyers insert private jet flights into his contract of employment as a way to try to deflect criticism when people far more famous and important routinely fly commercial) I thought Cook might avoid politics but he just can’t help himself.
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so do you take responsibility for enabling that behavior by purchasing the products?
I was a kid in the 80s and we never stopped hearing about apartheid and how good people would boycott South African goods.

Well the Chinese communist party has murdered far, far more political opponents that the South Africans ever did. And today the Chinese are ethnically cleansing people with concentration camps.

You are right that almost everyone is guilty of buying stuff made in China of course. But equally it is valid to point out the hypocrisy when someone like Cook virtue signals when he personally has become filthy rich on the back of Chinese workers and a tyrannical regime.
 

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It’s bleakly funny of course that on economic grounds Tim Cook would be about the strongest opponent one would ever find of King’s policies. King would denounce Cook for things like tax “efficient” approaches and corporate pay levels in the strongest terms possible.

The whole thing is just tedious. After Cook’s cooperation with China’s tyrannical crackdown on pro democracy protestors and also Cook being called out for virtue signalling on Twitter about the environment while taking private jets (and ludicrously having lawyers insert private jet flights into his contract of employment as a way to try to deflect criticism when people far more famous and important routinely fly commercial) I thought Cook might avoid politics but he just can’t help himself.
Why can’t MR posters stop their immorality signaling? All the good works Cook and Apple do just drive you guys crazy lol.

If Apple is to pull out of China, that’s a board level decision, not the CEO’s. The board also requires the private flights, for security and efficiency as well. If you have information to the contrary, I’d love to hear it.

Let’s face it: there are plenty of people in this country who despise everything Martin Luther King Jr. stood for, and accomplished. The constant immorality signaling by those that don’t agree with civil rights, every citizen’s right to vote and all being created equal is truly tiresome 🙄

Thanks Tim Apple, for honoring a great man!
 

manni

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Why can’t MR posters stop their immorality signaling? All the good works Cook and Apple do just drive you guys crazy lol.

If Apple is to pull out of China, that’s a board level decision, not the CEO’s. The board also requires the private flights, for security and efficiency as well. If you have information to the contrary, I’d love to hear it.

Let’s face it: there are plenty of people in this country who despise everything Martin Luther King Jr. stood for, and accomplished. The constant immorality signaling by those that don’t agree with civil rights, every citizen’s right to vote and all being created equal is truly tiresome 🙄

Thanks Tim Apple, for honoring a great man!
Hard to know quite what to make of your word salad.

Indeed King was and remains controversial outside the elite. Nonetheless it’s a fact that King would have regarded Cook as an enemy on economic grounds. And Cook would have considered King his opponent were King alive today. So Cook’s tweet is empty hypocrisy. Sorry if someone pointing out that a millionaire CEO is a hypocrite upset you.

Cook does not need to fly private. All evidence shows commercial flight to be just as safe. Princess Diana flew commercial. Do you think Cook is more famous than her? Anyone who knows anything about aviation knows Cook could fly commercial but he wants luxury. The board give him the fig leaf of saying he has to - but there is no justification and they would remove that tomorrow if he wished. He shouldn’t virtue signal about the environment while flying private.

Everything else you wrote was irrelevant.
 

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Hard to know quite what to make of your word salad.

Indeed King was and remains controversial outside the elite. Nonetheless it’s a fact that King would have regarded Cook as an enemy on economic grounds. And Cook would have considered King his opponent were King alive today. So Cook’s tweet is empty hypocrisy. Sorry if someone pointing out that a millionaire CEO is a hypocrite upset you.

Cook does not need to fly private. All evidence shows commercial flight to be just as safe. Princess Diana flew commercial. Do you think Cook is more famous than her? Anyone who knows anything about aviation knows Cook could fly commercial but he wants luxury. The board give him the fig leaf of saying he has to - but there is no justification and they would remove that tomorrow if he wished. He shouldn’t virtue signal about the environment while flying private.

Everything else you wrote was irrelevant.
Word salad lol. What are you having trouble understanding? Let me know and I’ll help you out.

King does not remain controversial “outside the elite”. He is revered by all segments of society, though quite unpopular with racists and white supremacists/white nationalists/the “alt right” or whatever they prefer we call them at present.

The safety of commercial flights is not the issue, and it has nothing to do with “being famous”. The ability of Cook’s security team to guarantee his safety prior to TSA checkpoints, however, is quite an issue. It’s very difficult to do in a public space. Security 101. It has to do with the number of death threats Cook gets. If you have information to the contrary, I’d love to hear it.

Doing good works isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Using clean energy isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Recycling isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Donating your entire personal fortune to charity upon your death isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. And that’s exactly what drives the Apple and Cook complainers crazy. It must be infuriating.

Still waiting for something relevant, but all I hear is immorality signaling.
 
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Instead of the negativity on this thread, each person should instead make the world a better place. Smile, say hello to people, go vegan, walk don't drive, research before you vote, be open minded, be liberal, be open, travel, travel, travel. And don't waste your life being negative on forums - you're wasting your life. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. Make a good impact and aim to be well remembered.
 

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The world needs more people like Martin Luther King, Jnr.
The sexual abuser part of the MLK or just the other stuff?
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Instead of the negativity on this thread, each person should instead make the world a better place. Smile, say hello to people, go vegan, walk don't drive, research before you vote, be open minded, be liberal, be open, travel, travel, travel. And don't waste your life being negative on forums - you're wasting your life. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. Make a good impact and aim to be well remembered.
Lost me sort of at vegan. Rest is probably good advice.
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Word salad lol. What are you having trouble understanding? Let me know and I’ll help you out.

King does not remain controversial “outside the elite”. He is revered by all segments of society, though quite unpopular with racists and white supremacists/white nationalists/the “alt right” or whatever they prefer we call them at present.

The safety of commercial flights is not the issue, and it has nothing to do with “being famous”. The ability of Cook’s security team to guarantee his safety prior to TSA checkpoints, however, is quite an issue. It’s very difficult to do in a public space. Security 101. It has to do with the number of death threats Cook gets. If you have information to the contrary, I’d love to hear it.

Doing good works isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Using clean energy isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Recycling isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Donating your entire personal fortune to charity upon your death isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. And that’s exactly what drives the Apple and Cook complainers crazy. It must be infuriating.

Still waiting for something relevant, but all I hear is immorality signaling.
You don’t have to be a racist to point out King’s flaws. If what he did behind closed doors happened today? The ME TOO people would destroy him.

Let’s talk about the good AND bad—nobody is a saint on Earth.
 

manni

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Word salad lol. What are you having trouble understanding? Let me know and I’ll help you out.

King does not remain controversial “outside the elite”. He is revered by all segments of society, though quite unpopular with racists and white supremacists/white nationalists/the “alt right” or whatever they prefer we call them at present.

The safety of commercial flights is not the issue, and it has nothing to do with “being famous”. The ability of Cook’s security team to guarantee his safety prior to TSA checkpoints, however, is quite an issue. It’s very difficult to do in a public space. Security 101. It has to do with the number of death threats Cook gets. If you have information to the contrary, I’d love to hear it.

Doing good works isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Using clean energy isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Recycling isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Donating your entire personal fortune to charity upon your death isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. And that’s exactly what drives the Apple and Cook complainers crazy. It must be infuriating.

Still waiting for something relevant, but all I hear is immorality signaling.
Indeed - I referred to it as a word salad because it was largely meaningless and you just threw in some soundbites. That is what you wrote.

As for aviation you're simply wrong. Every single aviation expert across the western world agrees with the statistics that show commercial flying is safe. The Queen of England uses it, Leonardo di Caprio uses it, Kate Middleton does too. Senators and Congressmen use it routinely. As I said, even Princess Diana did. So you are the one who is saying all the aviation experts who advise such people are wrong, the highest level experts in the US and British governments are wrong - it's absurd and the burden rests with you to suggest that you know more than the experts.

You might be surprised to learn if you don't know that world that when someone as rich as Cook uses commercial it doesn't mean he waits in line. He would get a special pass to enter by different areas, it would be incredibly safe, at the same airport he would fly from anyway and with tightly controlled access and armed police there. The airlines deal day in, day out with people far more important, far richer, far more famous than Cook.

Now I don't blame him. He's rich and wants to have a private jet. That's fine. But he is a hypocrite for then virtue signalling about the environment. And gullible people then believe some ridiculous idea that Apple "force" him to enjoy luxury private jets. Next you'll be claiming they force him to accept his share options!! I am sorry to break this to you - the rich and powerful lie and lie often.

Everything you wrote about King was irrelevant (though you overstate that he is revered by all of society, some conservatives [and a tiny, tiny number of liberals] take a more nuanced view of his personal failings). The question is how it pertains to Cook who would be an implacable enemy of King in virtually every regard.

The only thing you said of value was that "doing good works isn't virtue signalling". That I agree with 100%. However writing tweets is not "doing good work".

You sound very angry. I hope you find some peace.
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Instead of the negativity on this thread, each person should instead make the world a better place. Smile, say hello to people, go vegan, walk don't drive, research before you vote, be open minded, be liberal, be open, travel, travel, travel. And don't waste your life being negative on forums - you're wasting your life. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. Make a good impact and aim to be well remembered.
Rare to find a nice positive message in a political thread! Of course it depends on how you define "liberal" (societies are far too complex for any one ideology to always be right about everything) and the endless travel is doing enormous damage to the environment but otherwise what you wrote is hard to disagree with :)
 
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Marekul

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oh please... bring me a product you use that is not built in the same place as apple's stuff?
Talk is cheap man. If you're going to say stuff like that you'd better be beyond reproach in your personal choices.
so do you take responsibility for enabling that behavior by purchasing the products?
I am not running around preaching to other people what they should or should not buy - and then do different for myself. So you really have no point.

Tim just has to stop his virtue signaling and he can keep his slave labor camps in China.
 

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Rev. Martin Luther King was a democratic socialist. Yup, just like Bernie Sanders

If MLK were alive today, he would remind Tim Cook that the problem with our society isn’t just racism, but unbridled capitalism. So it’s a tad ironic for the CEO of one of the world’s largest tax avoiders to celebrate MLK Day.

“You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism. There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.” -MLK

King felt the U.S. should learn from Sweden, Norway and Denmark — countries with greater equality, a higher standard of living for working families, better schools, free universities, less poverty, a cleaner environment, higher voter turnout, stronger unions, universal health insurance, and a much wider safety net. Sounds anti-business? Forbes magazine ranked Denmark as the #1 country for business. The United States ranked #18.
 
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manni

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No mention of content of character? (Because then diversity would be out the window).
That is something quite funny once you realise it - most of the "woke" people today would condemn King for his "problematic" view that you can judge someone by his character, they would scream that he isn't understanding institutional oppression and how "whiteness" means that universities and businesses should discriminate on the grounds of race etc etc. You can imagine some wealthy white liberal screaming that King is a "racist"!

Then the MeToo people would get King cancelled.

Then Cook would go on pocketing $100m a year and flying in private jets while cleaners in apple stores work for low wages. But at least Cook writes some nice tweets. Now that's progress.
 

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Word salad lol. What are you having trouble understanding? Let me know and I’ll help you out.

King does not remain controversial “outside the elite”. He is revered by all segments of society, though quite unpopular with racists and white supremacists/white nationalists/the “alt right” or whatever they prefer we call them at present.

The safety of commercial flights is not the issue, and it has nothing to do with “being famous”. The ability of Cook’s security team to guarantee his safety prior to TSA checkpoints, however, is quite an issue. It’s very difficult to do in a public space. Security 101. It has to do with the number of death threats Cook gets. If you have information to the contrary, I’d love to hear it.

Doing good works isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Using clean energy isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Recycling isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. Donating your entire personal fortune to charity upon your death isn’t “virtue signaling”, it is in fact virtuous. And that’s exactly what drives the Apple and Cook complainers crazy. It must be infuriating.

Still waiting for something relevant, but all I hear is immorality signaling.
Hate to break the news, but "right wing"/Conservatives (who are not white supremacists, stop trying to tie them together) LOVE MLK.
 

nt5672

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The world needs more people like Martin Luther King, Jnr.
Yep at least for his positive and anti violence beliefs. We need a lot less people that claim to be like him, but are simply agitators and dividers.
 
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