Apple and Tim Cook Commemorate Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

[nt5672]

Hmm, depends on what you classify as “divisive”.

Is it divisive to suggest that income and wealth inequality levels are unacceptable? Is it divisive to point out that centrist Democrats have endorsed policies that have accelerated wealth and income inequality in the United States since the 1980s? Is it divisive to suggest that the only way we can have political leaders who represent the interests of the people is by electing leaders who do not accept vast sums of money from billionaires and corporations? Is it divisive to argue that health insurance should not be a for-profit business or that we need to take immediate and drastic actions to mitigate catastrophic climate change?

A difference of opinion is not divisive. Not being about to talk is divisive and a repudiation of free speech.

Calling people names and insinuating racism, sexism, etc. based on no facts, but only political party is divisive, manipulative, and propaganda generating.

We will never solve the big problems unless we can talk about them first. Right now we can't even talk about the big problems in a 2 or more sided way. Political correctness is one way only and it is destroying, dividing, and polarizing America.

 

[2010mini]

Would you not agree that vegan diets have less negative impact on the environment than meat-heavy diets?

No.

Maybe you are confusing vegan and vegetarian. Vegan is a level only attainable for the lucky to live where they have choices.

I grew up in a 3rd world country. We ate what was available or starve. We did not have the luxury of choosing a diet based on feelings (for lack of a better word)

 

[Jensend]

No.

Maybe you are confusing vegan and vegetarian. Vegan is a level only attainable for the lucky to live where they have choices.

I grew up in a 3rd world country. We ate what was available or starve. We did not have the luxury of choosing a diet based on feelings (for lack of a better word)

I'm confused by your reply. You seem to be conflating two separate issues.
Environmental impact: producing meat requires more land area and energy than the food eaten by a typical vegan or vegetarian. I don't see how that can be disputed. There may be a few substitutes that some vegans use that have a negative impact on the environment, but I highly doubt that is worse overall for the environment than eating the typical meat-heavy American diet. ( I read something about almonds for almond "milk" production being harmful to bee populations).

Economic concerns: Maybe a strict vegan diet is difficult to attain, but poorer people tend to eat less meat.

Discussing vegan vs vegetarian is fine, but saying that non-meat food requires space too is just silly. That's like saying someone isn't doing any good by driving a Prius vs. a Ford F-150. Sure, they are both bad for the environment, but one is clearly worse than the other.

I’d probably just say “eat less meat” rather than “go vegan”.

 

[Veinticinco]

The depressing thing here is Cook’s complete lack of self-awareness. The hypocrisy doesn’t even register, it’s that off the scale. It’s not that he’s shameless, he really does believe the stuff he quotes and spouts. Ugh.

 

[tongxinshe]

an app that pro democracy protestors were using.

Did you really look into who those people are? True "pro democracy protesters" would never attack random passing-by local residents! All those people asking for is to restore Hong Kong as a UK managed state. If a similar thing happens in the California, asking to restore California as a part of Mexico, what do you guess US military will drop onto these crowds?

 

[DeadeyeM]

Oh F You TimChina

 

[2010mini]

I'm confused by your reply. You seem to be conflating two separate issues.
Environmental impact: producing meat requires more land area and energy than the food eaten by a typical vegan or vegetarian. I don't see how that can be disputed. There may be a few substitutes that some vegans use that have a negative impact on the environment, but I highly doubt that is worse overall for the environment than eating the typical meat-heavy American diet. ( I read something about almonds for almond "milk" production being harmful to bee populations).

Economic concerns: Maybe a strict vegan diet is difficult to attain, but poorer people tend to eat less meat.

Discussing vegan vs vegetarian is fine, but saying that non-meat food requires space too is just silly. That's like saying someone isn't doing any good by driving a Prius vs. a Ford F-150. Sure, they are both bad for the environment, but one is clearly worse than the other.

I’d probably just say “eat less meat” rather than “go vegan”.

I am saying the total destruction of natural ecosystems to create the farms we have today has been irreversibly destructive to the earth. I mentioned that to create said open flat plains to plant veggies started with destroying natural habitats, displacing and in essence killing species of said habitat. So... to get veggies, life forms were harmed.

Saying one form of diet is “better” to the earth than the other is a fantasy of the lucky. It’s as if they want to ignore that tomatoes, for example, did not naturally grow in open flat plains.... something was done to make it happen.

Be vegetarian because it is what you want to do.