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Did I claim to be?

then why point out other's faults and not your own? What purpose does it serve?
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Those are serious issues that get swept under the rug. The problem is in most other cases past indiscretions or wrong behavior no longer gets dismissed. The fact that people didn’t know about it or didn’t care in the past doesn’t excuse most people’s, dead or alive, past behavior.

MLK's faults have been well documented. It was not hidden, the info has been shown in movies and are readily available in books if anyone is interested to know. The very fact that you bring this up is proof that the info is available. It is just that his accomplishments far outweigh his faults.
 
Excellent. I shall await my free battery replacement for my 6S, as the time is right to do whats right.

You're using Martin Luther King, Jr. to talk about getting justice for people who've been affected financially by Apple's products? Ridiculous — MLK Jr. was only for social justice, he didn't care about how money affected people. Oh wait...

Article: "MLK fought not just for civil rights but economic justice as well"

Okay, he didn't mention anything about justice for people with tech products, but if Apple wants to talk about always doing what's right, I think that includes doing right by people's pocketbooks, too.
 
America no longer has a moral high ground on human rights

America still is among the best countries in the world in terms of human rights.

There are some things that can and will improve over time. But there's a reason people seek out the U.S. as a country to go, especially to flee a country where human rights are lacking (among other issues).
 
MLK's faults have been well documented. It was not hidden, the info has been shown in movies and are readily available in books if anyone is interested to know. The very fact that you bring this up is proof that the info is available. It is just that his accomplishments far outweigh his faults.

Well they were hidden for a while. The government’s files have been hidden for a long time and continue to be.

Does the accomplishments outweigh faults work for everyone else? We see our Founding Fathers being thrown aside because they had slaves. So it seems this excuse isn’t widely applied. It seems to be very narrowly applied.
 
Great Tim : how about you act like you run Apple and make a comment about the throttling!
 

Today is Martin Luther King Jr. Day in the United States, a federal holiday in commemoration of his birthday. The iconic leader of the African-American civil rights movement would have turned 89 years old on Monday.​

It probably worth noting that in my own impromptu survey of the front pages of websites from other major tech outfits - Microsoft, Adobe, Salesforce, Oracle, Facebook, Dell, and so on - Apple is the only company to put all of its products aside for a day on it's front page and pay tribute to this man and what he stood for. This is a reason why I think Apple connects with people; not just as a company that provides various successful products, but for it's values as well. Other companies are apparently satisfied with connecting with people's wallets only and that's fine, it seems most of them are successful in doing so. But at least one company thought it worthwhile to put aside it's usual business on it's website for a day and pay tribute to an acknowledged civl rights leader which, especially these days, I think is particularly poignant. None of it's contemporaries could be bothered.
 
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America still is among the best countries in the world in terms of human rights.

There are some things that can and will improve over time. But there's a reason people seek out the U.S. as a country to go, especially to flee a country where human rights are lacking (among other issues).

Even Blacks flee their home countries to come to America. With all the criticism of rampant, institutionalized racism that wouldn’t make sense if the US really were that bad. Said differently, whatever racism exists has to be far less worse than a lot of other living conditions.
 
If things were different and he never died, I can pretty much bet that Steve Jobs’ Twitter account would be far more interesting than Tim’s. I highly doubt he’d be tweeting about politics either, although I’m pretty sure he’d stay the hell off social media anyway.

Spot on. He focused on runnin Apple and making it a great company. Tim has no idea about product or vision so deflects with all this SJW blah. Let's honour MLK and avoid all taxes.... class! So fake.
 
- Apple should stay out of politics.
- Apple should put resources towards updating the Mini or MBP.
- Apple are hypocrites for selling products in countries that don't respect human right the same as we do.

There, I just saved you from reading pages of useless comments.


Wrong. Apple and all companies should honor and respect great leaders like M.L.King because thiz brings light for all of Us. Thiz guy made a lot for all of Us.
 
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I agree with you in principle, but I'm curious why you say "no longer"? Did the US become immoral with the last election? How about when Bush/Obama destroyed Middle Eastern countries? None of that invalidates what MLK stands for though, so how about we concentrate on that.
 
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Hmm. Kind of like you think I should conform to yours on this topic? My point exactly. The hypocrisy and arrogance, though you try to guise it as wisdom, show through.

Absolutely not. Not asking you to conform at all. If you want to keep on hating, that’s your business. I’m just challenging your assertion that’s something that everyone as humans must engage in. I’ve made my choice and you have made yours.
 
Tim Cook is so desperate to be likable that he will jump on any bandwagon shamelessly.

Too bad he completely ignores MLK's message in real life.
 
I agree with you in principle, but I'm curious why you say "no longer"? Did the US become immoral with the last election? How about when Bush/Obama destroyed Middle Eastern countries? None of that invalidates what MLK stands for though, so how about we concentrate on that.

Yeah. it did become more immoral (you know, ethically and morally bankrupt Orangina is in charge), doesn't mean it was moral or ethical before of course (no sir, never has been really though the government did try in fits and bounds)

So, you just did some good old straw man and false equivalence here hey.

Bush is the one who destroyed the Middle East (and the economy); Obama got stuck with the ball afterward and then lost the House and Senate and could only issue rules and regulations to change things thereafter. Could he have done much better, sure he could; he was too milketoast with congress in the first 2 years when he could have done something (though the global economic meltdown that was going on in 2009 sure put a crimp in his plans).

Getting into any war is easy, it's getting out that's hard (that's a message for mr twit prone Halloween boy with the twitchy fingers in charge now .
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Tim Cook is so desperate to be likable that he will jump on any bandwagon shamelessly.

Too bad he completely ignores MLK's message in real life.

Right... Coming from someone with a racist for avatar, that's saying something.
 
King was a great leader, but plagiarizing others work in a Doctoral thesis was not his finest hour.
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Well they were hidden for a while. The government’s files have been hidden for a long time and continue to be.

Does the accomplishments outweigh faults work for everyone else? We see our Founding Fathers being thrown aside because they had slaves. So it seems this excuse isn’t widely applied. It seems to be very narrowly applied.

The founding fathers are not a good example of comparison to MLK good deeds/faults scenario. MLK cheated on his wife and plagerized speeches. He didn’t advocate for equal racial treatment while being a member of a supremacist organization.

The founding fathers (some of them) advocated for freedom while PERSONALLY denying it to others. See the difference?
 
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The founding fathers are not a good example of comparison to MLK good deeds/faults scenario. MLK cheated on his wife and plagerized speeches. He didn’t advocate for equal racial treatment while being a member of a supremacist organization.

The founding fathers (some of them) advocated for freedom while PERSONALLY denying it to others. See the difference?
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
It's not about casting stones. It's about REV King, not Dr. King, plagiarizing someone else's work, passing it off as his own and getting a Doctorial degree that he did not earn nor deserve. Period.
 
Absolutely not. Not asking you to conform at all. If you want to keep on hating, that’s your business. I’m just challenging your assertion that’s something that everyone as humans must engage in. I’ve made my choice and you have made yours.

Oh boy. I'm done. Useless to debate with someone who ignores your main points and can only talk in dismissive, flowery generalities.
 
I don't see anything wrong with it. Tim Cook is an American business man and if he wants to commemorate one of his countrymen he admires, what's wrong with that?

That being said in general I think CEOs should refrain from too much political involvements, especially in foreign countries where common histories and values are not shared. Who are we to lecture them?

PS Google also made its front page about MLK Jr. day.
 
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