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I can fully understand that there are a lot of people that need/want more than one port. I personally have never once had more than one device plugged in at a time. I'm curious to know what percentage of the overall MBA using population falls into each category. Apple must have an idea of this, and feel it is not an issue...

The problem is that that one port is also the power adapter. I was ok with the early MBAs that only had the one USB port, but you can't have this plugged into power and plugged into something else at the same time which can easily be a problem. Especially in a year or two when the batteries start getting old and not lasting as long anymore so you might need it plugged in to last through the day.
 
That's not what entitlement is.

Entitlement: Having the title, right, or claim to something. So in my usage, he felt he had the "right" to decide on behalf of other people what is a good usage of their money.
Honestly... if the only point you can take away from what i said is that you don't like my usage of the word entitlement... then please stop wasting my and others time here. It contributes nothing to the conversation.
 
I'm confused. If this isn't replacing the MacBook Air and it's THINNER than the Air, then doesn't the Air kind of lose its meaning?

I suspect that this will be the new ultraportable form factor and the Pro line will start converging into the Air line.
 
And your post just made me think of another issue with the one port design, if that one port has a problem you are out of luck with saving anything on your computer. With my current computer if it starts to slowly die and ports go out I at least can use another one to recover data, here though if the one port dies it's finished.

Excuse me... Are you seriously suggesting that you are not making regular backups with Time Machine?

If my computer dies, I don't recover anything. New computer, restore from Time Machine backup, and everything is back.
 
The problem is that that one port is also the power adapter. I was ok with the early MBAs that only had the one USB port, but you can't have this plugged into power and plugged into something else at the same time which can easily be a problem. Especially in a year or two when the batteries start getting old and not lasting as long anymore so you might need it plugged in to last through the day.

Yea.. i think you do have a valid point. In my mind when i think of only having one port, i'm not used to that port ALSO being for power. So it does change the dynamic of having only one port.
And besides, i'm curious... doesn't performing an update on an iDevice require a certain minimum battery level? Well... if you have an iDevice plugged in and are updating via iTunes... what do you do if the computer battery is getting low...
 
Excuse me... Are you seriously suggesting that you are not making regular backups with Time Machine?

If my computer dies, I don't recover anything. New computer, restore from Time Machine backup, and everything is back.

With a laptop I'm not always in the same place as the backup drive, so if I've been traveling somewhere I could have a week or two worth of stuff not backed up.
 
It's going to be fun for a while hearing of users connecting the wrong ends when apple releases a usb c to lighting cable, also would be cool (wouldn't happen but hopefull) if apple added a usb type c port to the iphone, i understand the logic behind lightning connection pre usb type c but now they are pretty similiar with the usb c connection capable of more (based off guess of the top of my head).
 
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It has many functions. Just because they are not functions for you, it does not make it so for everyone else.

Compared to every other portable Apple has made it has features removed. A deficiency of features.

And all just so it can be slightly thinner and lighter than a laptop that was already extraordinarily thin and light.
 
I just wonder what happens when the battery starts failing on you.

That's after 1,000 charges or so which will be in a few years time for most people. You'll take it to the Apple Store and they will put in a new battery (for a charge, obviously).
 
Compared to every other portable Apple has made it has features removed.

And all just so it can be slightly thinner and lighter than a laptop that was already extraordinarily thin and light.

Like I have already said, it's not the product for you. The features that have been removed are not features that everyone needs. Your use cases are not everyone's use cases.
 
Excuse me... Are you seriously suggesting that you are not making regular backups with Time Machine?

You're not seeing it are you? Ownership of this Mac makes people less likely to backup regularly because Apple has made it less convenient to do so unless you are using a network share.
 
Compared to every other portable Apple has made it has features removed. A deficiency of features.

And all just so it can be slightly thinner and lighter than a laptop that was already extraordinarily thin and light.

I will concede that you do make some valid points. But i wouldn't go so far as to say that removing stuff is always bad or a deficiency. I remember when computers had floppy disk drives, and cassette tape drives. These are now long gong... but we don't miss them and view it as a deficiency. Nearly all computers had CD drives... now those are gone, and not many people miss them. We had SCSI ports to plug printers into.... etc etc. My point is that just because computers used to have some stuff, and then they are removed.. is not always a bad thing.
But i do see your point that some people really need those additional ports. But Apple must recognize this... since they left the MBA line intact, and since they have other laptops with many more port options.
 
The Air has:
  • longer battery life
  • usb ports
  • thunderbolt
  • sd card
  • magsafe! ( I cannot believe they expect people to go back to cord tripping :eek:)
  • cheaper
  • larger screen

Right, that's why I asked in another thread about the MBA and why anyone would buy this versus the MBA? The MBA will get a retina screen soon too. I think. If it doesn't then that sucks but still.

This seems pretty "meh" for $1300 bucks. A refurbed Pro would murder this thing performance wise..... Not even close. :rolleyes:
 
No you can't, not out of the box. They are such miserable tight-arses that they couldn't even put the adapter in the box.

You have already said this in the other thread and I have already replied to it. Now that you're going around and around in circles my reply is even more pertinent.
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But you're willing to spend $1300 on a laptop? People are weird. Clearly this computer is not for you then. Accept it and move on. Is whining on forums going to change anything? Does it make you feel better? You're just wasting your fingers and energy.
 
Why can't Apple just leave things alone? Everyone just wanted a Macbook Air with a retina screen. They give you the retina screen but take away all the connectivity. Everyone wanted an updated Mini, they gave us a speed and spec bump but took away the upgradeability.

The problem is that Ive has way too much power internally at Apple and no one left to tell him when his **** stinks. He is surrounded by "yes" men. Having absolutely no connectivity so Ive can make the laptop a few millimetres thinner is insanity and evidence of his form-over-function design philosophy taken to the absolute extreme.

so you worked in the design lab? ah no. so do yourself a favor and read the New Yorker profile on Ive and design lab so you can learn how (exactly) you don't know what you're talking about.

meanwhile, people interested in an ultra portable will love the crap outta this one.
 
This computer kind of confuses me. I was all aboard to purchase it. Compromises and all.

However, the battery life is pitiful for what it is. You would think with losing all the ports, the handicapped processor, the lack of fans, it would have the longest battery life of all MacBooks. Yet it can barely get 9 hours.

I would much rather have the rMBP for the same price. No compromises and longer battery life.

You got to remember though that the MacBook now has a retina display. The display is one of the biggest battery drain component. If it didn't I can guarantee that the battery should be much better than the rMBP. Also, the rMBP has a bigger body, hence more space for the batteries.
 
Right, that's why I asked in another thread about the MBA and why anyone would buy this versus the MBA? The MBA will get a retina screen soon too. I think. If it doesn't then that sucks but still.

This seems pretty "meh" for $1300 bucks. A refurbed Pro would murder this thing performance wise..... Not even close. :rolleyes:

I am not following your logic. The MBA was just updated today. It is not going to get a retina screen soon. So buying an MBA today will not get you a retina screen today and will not make you eligible for a retina screen update. Also buying one today and then seeing it come out with a retina screen next year is not going to make you feel better.
 
Yea.. i think you do have a valid point. In my mind when i think of only having one port, i'm not used to that port ALSO being for power. So it does change the dynamic of having only one port.
And besides, i'm curious... doesn't performing an update on an iDevice require a certain minimum battery level? Well... if you have an iDevice plugged in and are updating via iTunes... what do you do if the computer battery is getting low...

I'm guessing there will eventually be adapters that take care of both charging and being a USB hub so you can do both, but that also defeats the point of it being an ultraportable.

The other thing your comment that you made about iDevices made me think of is are Apple going to start shipping them with a USB-C cable, or is iCloud your only option of syncing your iDevice to this laptop?
 
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