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Apple Announces 16GB iPhone and 32GB iPod Touch
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I wouldn't get too haughty there. Just because you poked a hole in his argument doesn't mean it's devoid of validity. Try a more measured response.
Apple is a US company with a majority of its sales to US markets. The US dollar is the basis for their pricing structure. It is certainly fair to discuss it in US dollars, and if a conversion is needed, the other user is more than capable.
Sony is a foreign company that does a significant amount of sales in the US, so much so that they have separate branches and headquarters in the US (Sony USA). It's an exception, but it is still fair to discuss Sony products in US dollars.
Bang & Olufsun...if I said they were obscure, you'd jump all over me, so let's just say they're less...notorious than Apple and Sony. So while such a parallel works to your advantage, it still employs a degree of hyperbole to make your point. Really, the comparisons end once you get past "foreign company."
Well, it is dvoid of validity. His conclusion might have merits, but not the argument in itself.
No, not really. I tend to agree. But my point was to show that you cannot make such an argument based on country of origin of the company.
Haha, indeed. But that "foreign company" was his whole argument. He stated that since Apple is an american company, it should be discussed in US$. That was his whole argument, and that argument is indeed invalid.
What began this discussion was some bloke getting annoyed about someone saying there wasn't enough price diff between the iPhone and the Touch, quoting two prices, both in british pounds, iirc. Those prices should be compared to each other, and doesn't necessitate writing it in US$ too. It can be looked up quite easily, but aren't really necessary in that situtation. It could have been made in the imaginary currency "kloggers", and it would still be obvious: "The iPhone costs 23.000 kloggers, while the iTouch cost 21.800 kloggers. - way to little price difference between the two"
However, I agree that if we talk about prices in general, it's always good form to use US-dollars as well on a foremost american forum. Just like it's a good idea for americans to learn (and include them) metric measurements when they're on an international forum *especially since they're the ones sticking out as the odd one in that context.
Yup, screen sizes is one of the few things that are commonly referred to in inches.
Another thing (although not quite as common) is boat length they're often given in feet.
But that's about it. Talk about a 5/8ths of an inch to someone "metric", and they won't have a clue. Nor will they have a clue as to how much a "stone" is, how close to a feet 11 inches are, let alone how long a feet is. Not to mention your gallons etc.
Inches in screen sizes are a good point, but it is, and will continue to be the exception that confirms the rule.
That is odd, isn't it? But it's because everyone knows "mm" are measurements of something very small.
That's why the size of male genitalia will never be referred to, in the U.S., in mm. 
I should have said "is potentially the best" ipod. I agree, i have the 3G ipod which really sucks "on the move" because you can't feel around for the right button, and that is just horrible. I thought i made it clear the reason I still have not bought a touch is because of the horribly limited capacity. Yeah hard disk mode is nice.. i can take or leave that part.. i thought there was a hack for that anyway?
But as far as how i use my ipod, it's hooked up by dock to my receiver in the morning (shower music), then into the car (i bought a belkin adapter to charge and line out directly to the deck [fm transmitters are horrible]), then hooked up to a boom box at work. So the control problem is pretty much non-existent for me. I REALLY want an ipod touch mounted under my deck in my car, that would be that nicest music interface. Yes i know it depends on your taste, you might want knobs and buttons in a car, you might want a nice streamlined touch interface, it's up to you... well i guess it's up to apple... haha.
But ultimately the touch is the way to go (as soon as our concerns have been addressed. why they didn't just go ahead with a HDD touch is beyond me)!!
Does anyone think that this 'Drop in Production' of iPhones and iPods, means that there maybe a near future Revamp of either of these products?
Dunno, maybe. Not that it matters to me too much atm, with my 16GB iPod touch already full to the brim
It'd be more useful on a 32gb-er though!
Whether people use 3G often or not due to coverage, you don't think there will be a splurge in sales when the 3g model is released???
I bet you're right in many places with 3g, but up here in Maine we'd rather have the 32 gig without the 3g if it would bring the cost down
From what I've heard at&t is supposed to ramp up 3g in a big way, we'll see.
I love my Iphone but I have trouble receiving phone calls at my house with it at times
Considering that US has higher 3G handset penetration rate than UK, Germany and France --- it really makes no difference at all whether the iphone is 3G or not.
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/3/apple_waiting_for_3g_iphone_before_spain_italy
It's just an excuse to say that the European iphone sales is a dud because it's not a 3G phone.
iPhone 32gb launches in Aug 2009
I have recently left employment with Apple, and can confirm the 32gb model is due to launch this year, and will be the most impressive yet. The camera has been upgraded to a 4megapixel and better still, satnav is coming soon afterwards, pending the ongoing trials currently taking place. I am in contact with my ex colleagues so will post more news as i get the updates. The price is still TBC however.
I have recently left employment with Apple, and can confirm the 32gb model is due to launch this year, and will be the most impressive yet. The camera has been upgraded to a 4megapixel and better still, satnav is coming soon afterwards, pending the ongoing trials currently taking place. I am in contact with my ex colleagues so will post more news as i get the updates. The price is still TBC however.
Quadcore is hush hush, i cant discuss that at the moment, but all i could get away with is something that rhymes with Hanuary !
I have seen the 32gb prototype, with my own eyes, so i know my facts are spot on. The App store is getting a revamp too and there are inside rumours of discounted iTunes music for those who purchase the 32gb model.
I want a new model, if nothing else but for a decent camera with video recording (and more space, as that ALWAYS is welcome!).
It is rather pathetic that the push notification system has not been implemented yet.
**** off dude.
Seriously. You would have to be a complete moron to leave Apple during this recession. Even if you did leave the company, even the retail side which I am sure is a pile of $h!t job, you wouldn't know $h!t about a new iPhone model with that much drastic improvement. Besides, when's the last time Apple decided to up the anti on any product they have as much as you think say they will?
Never.
Not to mention they have the name of every single employee that would have that much knowledge of their products. And that would mean that as soon as one slip this big were to get out, they'd be coming after you with their full team of layers.
Anybody reading this, it's nothing but a scheme to get us worked up. And to anybody reading my post, please use your common sense, recognize this for what it is, and let the thread die. IF he's still checking this thread, he's only getting a kick out of our reactions.
Anybody reading this, it's nothing but a scheme to get us worked up. And to anybody reading my post, please use your common sense, recognize this for what it is, and let the thread die. IF he's still checking this thread, he's only getting a kick out of our reactions.