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It feels like they just asked AI to make it. It’s getting more and more abstract. I get the colors mean something but it’s at the point where the colors are just visually unpleasant. I bought the original band, which looked really nice.

I get this is an Apple trying to make a “statement”, but by doing a new one every year they’re making it worse.
 
I would love to buy all of them. Thank you Apple. You are the best!!!
Keep virtue signaling.
When are the Amazon tribes getting their Apple Watch bands? I am from the tribe.
 
I'm not trying to "sell" anyone anything. All I am doing is conveying my experience in one of the most conservative areas of the nation. I think you may FEEL there's outright hostility towards gay people, from the right, and sure, there probably are pockets of it, but in my circle, nobody cares about someone being gay.

It sounds like you're in a bit of an echo chamber then. In any case, I'm not "right wing" on most social issues and you'll find that libertarian-minded folk are almost universally tolerant of letting adults do whatever they want with other adults and for living their lives as they see fit.

I don't envision there being an overturning of Obergfell with the current courts makeup. I think it's with the states, where it belongs.
Conservative in Florida here. No one cares. We're not some "christofascist state" or whatever other dumb statement someone wants to libel Florida with. I know a TON of conservatives—not a single one cares whether you're gay or straight. What we are tired of is constantly hearing about who people want to bang like that's a necessary topic of conversation in every single encounter (whether it's gay OR straight people). It's not a topic I need shoved in my face, or my children's face in every occasion. I've always been pro-gay. Do what you want. I couldn't care less. I was actually happy when gay marriage happened, and voted for it. But since then it's just been a continual march past acceptance into shout your sexuality. We don't need to see people dry humping each other in the streets every June to accept you—that kind of does the opposite. As for whether my kids turn out gay or straight or anything, that literally would not change my political opinion one iota, because 90% of conservatives aren't out to stop you from being gay in 2025, sorry to tell you. Maybe update your political views beyond "orange man bad" and talk to an actual conservative for once instead of calling everyone fascists.
 
The reality is, the reason why many in the LGBTQIA community are out, loud and proud is because this sentiment of "shut up about it" you hold led them to suffer in silence and be treated horribly by the hetero majority, sometimes to the point of suicide.

Nobody has ever been hostile or violent to you for kissing your heterosexual wife/girlfriend in public. Gay people born before about 2000 cannot always say the same.

Conservatives have this nasty little trait where if something hasn't happened to them yet, they cannot empathize. "Oh I started caring about the LGBTQ community when my son/daughter came out -- not before then." It's a character defect worth working on.
And nobody has been hostile to the LGBTQIA+ people either. It’s when it’s shoved as a normalcy (which it is not, how much ever you want to argue). It is a unique thing and it should not be of anyone’s concern. I am all for LGBTQIA+ people just don’t shove it like the US media (Disney and others) does. That’s all we are saying.

Has anyone applauded Trump for appointing the first GAY
United States Secretary of the Treasury???? How many people know about it???

And we don’t care because that should never be the criteria! Like what Biden did
 
Conservative in Florida here. No one cares. We're not some "christofascist state" or whatever other dumb statement someone wants to libel Florida with. I know a TON of conservatives—not a single one cares whether you're gay or straight. What we are tired of is constantly hearing about who people want to bang like that's a necessary topic of conversation in every single encounter (whether it's gay OR straight people). It's not a topic I need shoved in my face, or my children's face in every occasion. I've always been pro-gay. Do what you want. I couldn't care less. I was actually happy when gay marriage happened, and voted for it. But since then it's just been a continual march past acceptance into shout your sexuality. We don't need to see people dry humping each other in the streets every June to accept you—that kind of does the opposite. As for whether my kids turn out gay or straight or anything, that literally would not change my political opinion one iota, because 90% of conservatives aren't out to stop you from being gay in 2025, sorry to tell you. Maybe update your political views beyond "orange man bad" and talk to an actual conservative for once instead of calling everyone fascists.
Completely agree with you and that is exactly what I said in my earlier post. Don’t shove it in my and my kids face as if that’s the only thing in life. It’s literally tiring.
 
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Completely agree with you and that is exactly what I said in my earlier post. Don’t shove it in my and my kids face as if that’s the only thing in life. It’s literally tiring.
Exactly! Sorry, I skipped ahead. 🤣 For all of the people preaching nuance, acceptance, etc. they sure like to reduce people down to the two things about them that are the least interesting—race and sexuality. And yep, it's tiring. There are plenty of other more interesting things that humans do outside of what they can't change about themselves.

Shouldn't we be happy at this point that no one (outside of most of the bigots who have died off) actually cares about this?
 
Yes, because they're in power and yes, they've got issues with due process for illegals. From 2021 - January 20, 2025, the Biden administration had their turn at violating the Constitution. Let's remember, that administration attempted to use OSHA to force a vaccine mandate NATIONWIDE AND flouted the USSC when it came to student loan repayment. There's other instances but those two were top of my mind.
Biden didn't flout the USSC. The SCOTUS ruled narrowly that the law Biden was attempting to use to forgive student loans was not intended for that purpose. The SCOTUS did not rule that it's unconstitutional to forgive student debt.

The Biden administration continued to look for ways to forgive student debt, but had to do so on a much smaller scale, using different laws, because it obeyed the SCOTUS ruling. It's a very false equivalence.
 
It is a unique thing and it should not be of anyone’s concern. I am all for LGBTQIA+ people just don’t shove it like the US media (Disney and others) does. That’s all we are saying.
Completely agree with you and that is exactly what I said in my earlier post. Don’t shove it in my and my kids face as if that’s the only thing in life. It’s literally tiring.

"I'm all for you being yourself! Just not around me. Or on TV. Or online. Or around other people, actually."

I'd love to hear more about how you reconcile these viewpoints.
 
"I'm all for you being yourself! Just not around me. Or on TV. Or online. Or around other people, actually."

I'd love to hear more about how you reconcile these viewpoints.
Is the sum of who you are just who you prefer to bang? No one said that it can't be anywhere. We're just tired of it being everywhere—and I'm including heterosexuality too.

Not a huge fan of crap like WAP either, for the record.

I've had plenty of gay friends. None of them came up to me talking about their sex life, and neither do my hetero friends. You know why? Because I don't want to hear about it.
 
Completely agree with you and that is exactly what I said in my earlier post. Don’t shove it in my and my kids face as if that’s the only thing in life. It’s literally tiring.
So Pride month is okay since it's just one month (and other things are also going on that month). And a little history of LGBTQIA+ in schools is okay as long as it's not the only history they teach. Teach that different kinds of people exist and co-exist with other different kinds of people.
 
Well get ready to be more shocked. If you go look at my initial post the split of likes/dislikes, if at all representative of the population here, suggests 45% of folks agree with me. Check your cognitive bias and get off your high horse.

*also, I’m not a Conservative, I’m a common-sense liberal.
No liberal says "stop shoving it down my throat", bud. We're allies to LGBTQ causes and that slur has a homosexual-hostile connotation.

It's simply coded messaging. You'll see it all over Breitbart. To them it roughly means "I hate having to hear about this gay crap, a marriage should be between a man and a woman, I don't like F-words, etc etc..."
 
Yeah, because his administration is busy getting right back on the attack against LGBTQ+

I swear some folks just do not understand what it’s like to be in a marginalized group.
Sorry but I don't want my daughter dressing in the same locker room as some confused pervert or demolishing her dreams of being on a vollyball team by some man who clearly can't compete with other men so he suddenly finds himself as a "woman".

Women's teams are not a back-up option for men who can't compete with other men.
 
No liberal says "stop shoving it down my throat", bud. We're allies to LGBTQ causes and that slur has a homosexual-hostile connotation.

It's simply coded messaging. You'll see it all over Breitbart. To them it roughly means "I hate having to hear about this gay crap, a marriage should be between a man and a woman, I don't like F-words, etc etc..."
No, that is a radical left perspective. Plenty of moderates, left or right, gay and straight, are sick of the echo chamber. Where is “stop shoving it down our throats”, a slur?? That is a new one. Radical leftists like to re-define language and what is or isn’t a slur. Who decides that? You are the arbiter of what messages are being decoded or encoded? If words have flexible meanings how could you understand what I’m saying, if you know what I mean? Weird.
 
It's everywhere because we're everywhere. The real world has LGBT+ people all over it. Why shouldn't they be represented, marketed to, depicted in media?
I'm over the whole sex-sells thing entirely tbh. What else ya got?

In all honestly, what drives me the most nuts is when something is shoehorned in for no reason. If I were in the community, I'd be annoyed simply for how lazily they add in gay characters like they're trying to hit some quota. There's no thought to most of it other than they're just gay. How one-dimensional can you possibly make a character? Gay characters are often like red-shirts on Star Trek.

And I can tell you, it's tiring. Especially where nothing sexual needs to be stated—for example in school. THAT is the reason why in my state we have laws against teachers openly talking about sexuality at large in classrooms. And I'm specifically not going to use the BS made up name for that law. Why? Because it doesn't specify sexuality and it allows it for side conversations. But most importantly, there's no reason for teachers to discuss their sexuality (gay or straight) with children. It's out of place and quite creepy. But the left loves to go and misrepresent everything to score political points, when they really shouldn't be championing stuff like that. It's not about being represented, it's about you're a teacher and I find it creepy how much you care about my children's sexuality or explaining yours to them.

I wouldn't want any of those teachers representing me, I can tell you that.
 
Wish they would stop shoving this stuff down our throat. The social engineering has jumped the shark in modern society. Stick to building devices. Nobody cares about your support of "the new thing" or old in this case..... nobody cares what your preferences are.
I hear you. Imagine having a heterosexual month with a flag. The gays would be up in arms. They shove their agenda and any push back, you are labeled a homophobe hater. Matter of fact, they are so extreme nowadays when they get together in mass. They would chop your head off if it was legal. They hate that much when you disagree or don’t like it.
 
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And nobody has been hostile to the LGBTQIA+ people either. It’s when it’s shoved as a normalcy (which it is not, how much ever you want to argue)
(my emphasis)

"normalcy" - the state of being normal. Are you saying being gay isn't normal, that it's abnormal? It's normal; it's just not as common as heterosexuality.

"hostile" - the thing you were just being.
 
Great, that doesn't make it untrue.

Reminds me of the classic: you have no argument.
He doesn’t, that’s why he did a dirty delete earlier.

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