Pure ignorance of why there's a Pride month at all.
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Of course they should not be forced to support anything. That’s the issue. If they don’t want to support LGBT stuff that’s definitely their choice. My viewpoint is that the current administration is hostile towards anything DEI related and that’s why these companies are backing off.
Would it be virtue signaling if Apple stopped supporting LGBT people?
How would we differentiate between a company that is virtue signaling and one that really does support a cause?
There's so much more to it than that. But if you prefer to look at people through the lens of what they are doing in bed, then that's how you see other people.
It's called "Pride" (flags, parades, month, etc.), and not "Who People Sleep With" for a reason.
Similarly I often hear the statement that it’s okay to be gay but let’s not talk about sex and we don’t want to talk to kids about sex. I completely agree. But when did being gay become all about an act? It’s who you care for. It’s who you are married to. If Mom can love Dad then Mom can love Mom without talking about any details.
Yeah, I was also thinking the earlier years looked better. If I were looking for a watch band, I'd look for one of those older ones.
Good on Apple for continuing to support the LGBTQIA community. Especially in the current regressive climate.
Oh he most certainly did. Oh my goodness that is some world class gaslighting there. This article from Reason talks about how he just cheated AND in the process, stuck the taxpayer with a huge bill.
Biden's attempts to forgive student debt were a disaster
While the administration was fighting for debt forgiveness in court, it was also rolling out a broken FAFSA application form.
reason.com
You party people and your spinning and cherry picking blows me away. Trump unconstitutional! BAAAAD! Biden unconstitutional! Well, it's nuanced, and this, and that. Give.Me.A.Break.
Guess what. Republican Presidents try to get around the Constitution AND Democrat Presidents try to get around the Constitution. They both suck and this whole your side is for tyranny and mind is pure as the driven snow stuff is just bs.
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Hi zync, did you mean to quote someone else? I never labeled Florida in that way and I certainly didn't call anyone a fascist.
Well it doesn't, and you know that, so I'm going to ask you to be a respectful adult and remove the inference that I in any way would support their beliefs.
I don't understand the militancy of some of you. I've supported the gay community for years and backed their rights openly, in this very discussion and I'm getting hostility. It makes no sense.
As they should be. DEI is toxic, it is societal poison, and damaging in countless ways. Have you looked at some of the things people were being told in the workplace? All it does is pit people against each other based on race, mostly. Those types of things are the worst ways of combating bigotry and then bringing the oppressed/oppressor things into schools? It's just toxic.
You don't need forced programming and the creation of a victim vs victimizer narrative to solve some of the bigotry that still exists.
All we need to do is maintain a system where there is equal opportunity and any discrimination is not tolerated. You cannot guarantee outcomes and you cannot engage in racism or another form of discrimination to benefit one race or group over another.
I‘ve lost track and become unwilling to engage with or mention the LG… abbreviation for fear of forgetting a „subset“.
And from a design standpoint, representing everyone with their own little element - and changing it every few years - is messy. The European Council and/or Union didn’t keep on adding stars to their flag after surpassing 12 member states either.
Five word acronyms („Accept Everyone As They Are“ or whatever) and colours are enough to represent everyone in a simplified and inclusive way. With an iconic design that can have long-lasting appeal and recognition.
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The fact that a company like Apple puts out products denoting who people prefer to have sex with is absolutely ridiculous and the fact that the wallpapers are literally part of the OS is so beyond crazy.
The fact that a company like Apple puts out products denoting who people prefer to have sex with is absolutely ridiculous and the fact that the wallpapers are literally part of the OS is so beyond crazy.
Oh do let us know why then. I mean a MONTH? This group needs 8% of a year?? for what?????? Was there some holocaust like event that occurred in history we should all know about? Absolute insanity.
I understand your sentiment but they were oppressed (and worse) for quite a long time and I think it falls in line with the Stonewall Uprising. I'm not huge on everyone getting their own month and this or that and I think every single one of these months is over exposed, but I'm not sure it's fair to call it "insanity". Celebration isn't mandatory.
It's insanity. I'm gen-x, I grew up in the 90s, gay people did whatever they wanted, no one cared. celebrate all you want, get with whoever you want, do whatever you want.. but you don't need a pride month or watch bands. Thats crazy.
There's a big change in legal status in most places, especially in the US, when people get married. In some places married partners, regardless of gender, can visit their partners when they're deathly ill in the hospital, where they may get refused otherwise if they're unmarried and gay. (Sometimes you have to sue, even then, but at least you have more legal standing, and hospitals used to back down over the bad publicity.) Or apply to become a second legal guardian or adoptive parent for a pre-marriage child of their new spouse's. In a lot of places gay people still don't have those rights if they "only" had a commitment ceremony or union or whatever. It's complicated, and at least in some US states in the past, married people who were same gender only had those rights because they were married outside of the state in question, because the states recognized each others' marriage rights even if they didn't have them natively. It was a really complicated thing back when Vermont started recognizing them, actually. And, of course, there have been people who've gotten divorced when they came out, started new families, but when they died the ex-spouses fought in court over the estate because they weren't legally remarried, regardless of whatever will or handfast ceremony they had.
By comparison, straight unmarried couples get many of these rights by tradition.
Remember all this next time some court clerk claims they have the right to refuse to grant a license on personal religious grounds.
It reminds me of Mondrian's Neoplasticism, though I think that mostly stuck to primary colors. I personally probably wouldn't get a watch band (not with my skin tones, and I don't want attention drawn to my watch anyway), but I'd get a tablet cover with it, or a sticker that covers my laptop lid.
In the 90s people were using that F word and making jokes about gay people pretty constantly, including on Seinfeld and Friends, rap music, games, tv you name it.
We’ve progressed and it’s more accepted now BECAUSE of pride. You’re under no obligation to participate in Pride but you don’t understand Apple’s employee and customer demographics if you don’t understand the pride bands and wallpapers.
I graduated HS in 2002 and 0 kids in my graduating class came out until well into or after college. Fast forward to today: My daughter is 10 and all the kids are fine with other kids being gay. Many kids have two moms or dads. And this is suburban, conservative Ohio, not California.
There’s no joking or slurs or shaming like we experienced. But that’s because pride paved the way for these youngsters. They have it better than we ever did.
UK, finished secondary school in 2008, zero out gay/trans people in my graduating cohort but I know of about a dozen people (me included!) who came out during the following decade.
The environment is a lot safer and more permissive now and it's not because people just kinda passively and organically got better. Things changed because activists kept doing the work in spite of tedious losers telling us that we were being Hysterical or Too Sensitive or that Things Are Already Fine You Don't Need To Keep Doing This.
The fact that these conversations continue to happen at all proves that we still got a long way to go.