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If you really think about it, the iPhone 6/6+ doesnt really have that many changes (feels like an incremental 'S' upgrade)... bigger screen, better camera, better landscape mode what else??? NOTHING

and

Better screens (clarity etc), better camera(s), NFC for payments, better WIFI, thinner

and a nice protruding camera lens :D
 
There is absolutely no reason for Apple to make any product with 16GB in 2014/15. The manufacturing cost difference between this and 32GB is nothing in a device that costs this much.

All apps will now take up more room as they need to support full HD.

:(

You’ve obviously never run a business or worked in purchasing.
In my business there is a minimum margin when selling a job and sometines I’m left opened mouthed at how they’ll turn business away just because they will be forced to price a little under it.
The reason is greed, and the business model they have supports that, (and makes me richer).
 
So we're followers now?

Here's what I loved about the first iPhone - it was different. Wildly different. Exciting different.

Then came a series of updates to improve on the original, excellent impression and experience. (3G, 3GS, 4, 4S)

Apple has a long history of 'bucking the trend' - no floppy disk on the original iMac (remember THAT uproar??), Firewire instead of USB2 (though they gave in on that one eventually), Non-upgradable batteries/disk space on laptops, the New Mac Pro (pretty much everything about it).

Why then, do I get the distinct impression that we are now following the imitators (android et al) with larger screens? I get that some people want to have a super computer in their pocket, but I kinda miss the days of Nokia and the 7-day charging cycle. I realise there are a series of other advancements, but lets face it, the screen is the big ticket item on this menu.

I'll probably end up buying a new iPhone eventually, but for now, there is nothing exciting enough to compel me to move away from my 4S. Heck, if they were still available new, I'd probably buy another 4S!

Maybe I'm just getting old.
 
Hmm. Yes, the design of the phones is nice. But what happened to '3.5" is the perfect size for a phone' and 'the screen of the Galaxy Note is way too big'?

In their next iteration, the iPad Mini and the iPad Air will be able to make phone calls, too - then Apple's answer to Samsung's Galaxy Note product line will be complete.

I gotta say I thought the one handed mode was a brilliant way around things. We’ll see how it works in practice though.

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Delightful? Delicious? Decisive?

Poor children. If storage is a concern, spend the whopping $100 and get FOUR TIMES AS MUCH. For "most" people (read: NOT you, I get it...) 16GB is plenty, and it is proven year after year by something most people don't seem to grasp: SALES.

If sales were slouching, sure, increase it. But why damage profit margins on the single biggest revenue generator the company has (the 16GB iPhone)?

Maybe if they were the Red Cross.

Last I checked they were in this for the stockholder, not to give away things they don't have to for no reason.

So because they buy a 16 it means it’s plenty does it?
How about they can’t afford the bigger one and just make do.

Sales numbers don’t always tell the full story.
 
This cracked me up. I hope it was intentional.

Not me. I thought it was stupid. Usually when you’re ripping someone you'd like to make sure you’ve not left an avenue for them to come back on.
You’re a dingus... would have worked, but your a dingus… No.

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Steve Jobs once thought that computers should never have fans.

He was a clever guy but he wasn't some sort of prophet plenty of his ideas were wrong.

I’m sure he probably still would. They are a necessary evil.

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1997 called and they want their complaint back.

1987 called and hey, it was you on the line.
 
If I am on AT&T but want to buy the iPhone 6 w/o contract do I buy the T Mobile version listed on Apple's website?
 
Cameras….

Does anybody have and side by side shots or can they explain whether there is actually any tangible difference between photos taken with and without OIS?
 
Preordering

So I assume preordering means Apple will ship the iPhone 6 Plus to me and deliver it ON the 19th? I hated having to spend time to wait in line last year... Not that I did enjoy it :D

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If I am on AT&T but want to buy the iPhone 6 w/o contract do I buy the T Mobile version listed on Apple's website?


Yes, then go to an AT&T Store and get your sim swapped to a iPhone 6 compatible sim card.
 
so they DID screw us with the camera.. As francis would say "sons of bitches" >.<

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If I am on AT&T but want to buy the iPhone 6 w/o contract do I buy the T Mobile version listed on Apple's website?

Yeah, thats one of the things i have to debate. pay $ monthly and use the next plan, or 2 yr it and pay more for data, or save my pennies and try and buy it outright. Its a shame all the carriers are bending us over the kitchen sink with their plans.
 
I was actually pleased by this move. It's always been super annoying that you have to pay $100 for the first 16GB increase, then get 32GB for the second $100. Now $100 gets you 48GB and another $100 gets you 64GB. Seems fairer to me. Sure, it would be better if they charged you $50 to go from a base of 32GB to 64GB and $100 to get up to 128GB, but this is a step in the right direction.

Well it lowers (keeps) the initial price point for the 16GB to $199. I can see that Apple doesn't want to raise the initial entry price.
 
You realize that "phone sized" and "phablet (cringe) size" are completely arbitrary right? I suspect in a few years people will be clinging onto the "phone sized" 5.5 inch iPhone when 6.5-7 inch phones are all the rage.

I will just laugh is people ate putting iPad mini sized tables to their face to make calls. But the trends are showing that one day that will be a reality. A sad sad world we live in where the smart phone is dying. But people want tablets that can make calls these days. No one wants a phone (ie phone sized device) anymore apart from a select minority.
 
Here's what I loved about the first iPhone - it was different. Wildly different. Exciting different.

Then came a series of updates to improve on the original, excellent impression and experience. (3G, 3GS, 4, 4S)

Apple has a long history of 'bucking the trend' - no floppy disk on the original iMac (remember THAT uproar??), Firewire instead of USB2 (though they gave in on that one eventually), Non-upgradable batteries/disk space on laptops, the New Mac Pro (pretty much everything about it).

Why then, do I get the distinct impression that we are now following the imitators (android et al) with larger screens? I get that some people want to have a super computer in their pocket, but I kinda miss the days of Nokia and the 7-day charging cycle. I realise there are a series of other advancements, but lets face it, the screen is the big ticket item on this menu.

I'll probably end up buying a new iPhone eventually, but for now, there is nothing exciting enough to compel me to move away from my 4S. Heck, if they were still available new, I'd probably buy another 4S!

Maybe I'm just getting old.

So the upgraded camera, picture/video quality, speed increase, graphics increase, screen quality increase, new M8 commotion processor, upgraded FaceTime camera, secure payment options, faster wifi, faster LTE (if your in the area to get it), longer battery life, better scratch resistant screen and new design (i know, personal preference) doesn't give you a reason to upgrade from a 4s? o_O You can't be getting THAT old. lol :p
 
Hmm...

I honestly can't make up my mind about the new iPhones (I know, those 1st world problems are just killers:).
My 4S is working great, can't complain, but it would be nice to upgrade to a bigger screen. I don't want in iPad, it's a pointless device in my case and the iPhone/Mac combo works perfect for me. Now I skipped 5 & 5S, because none of them really felt like a 100% upgrade. They were just nicer versions of the 4 with the extra row of icons that doesn't do much for me.
But I loved the design. I just can't get the 6's design to grow on me. Maybe that will change when I see them in person, but for now the design doesn't sway me. What does are the functionalities, but again Apple did a Samsung/Android world manoeuvre and stripped the smaller iPhone 6 of some cool features, starting with worse screen and camera and then the landscape mode for example. That really sucks, because the 4,7 would be the perfect size for me, but I don't want to spend that absurd amount of money for getting a "lesser" product. The 6+ seems to have all those things I wished my phone to have, it will be great for reading books, playing games and such with great screen quality, but damn it's big!
 
Ive gotta say, the phone looks great. But I'm quite disappointed in a few things..

My number one complaint is the battery life of the devices we use today. Now, especially with 4g LTE, its worse than ever.

I think Apple failed to address a major customer concern. Yes, there was a high demand for a larger screen. However, polls showed that there was even higher demand for better battery life.

Apple has put so much emphasis on the seamless, rounded, smooth, un-interrupted front of the phone. Then you find a protruding camera lens on the rear? The protruding camera on the back looks like an after thought. Also most as if they finished and went, "oh crap, the camera lens".

Apple missed a major opportunity to improve battery life by keeping the phone a little thicker. At the same time, they would keep the seamless design and continue to compete - the iPhone 5S was already a perfect thickness device which competed with all others in that specification.

SMH.. Not the finished product I expected to see. The 6 Plus is far to big for my taste. The 6 has marginal battery life improvement over my current iPhone 5. Especially with all of its new capabilities, extra co processors and a large screen to power and drive. Im sure its gonna be exactly the same experience in terms of battery life as my iPhone 5.

Samsungs "wallhugger" commercial was dead accurate
 
So for the same price you would have paid for 32gb, you're now getting 64gb. This is not a bad thing lol.

Correct.
And for the same price you would have paid for 16gb, you now should be getting 32gb.
Apple failed big time on this one.

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Apple released 2 different phablets? I am disappointed. I knew it was coming though. And the best battery life is only in the larger phablet. That's sad.

I will have to use the iPhablet 6 in store and see Apple have made the OS usable on such a pointlessly large device. I know Android is not suited for it and it's user experience on their phablets is terrible. The phone sized android devices are actually very usable.

Apple has put me in a bind. I want a phone sized phone. But Apple is no longer selling latest generation phone sized phones. So what to do? I need to think.

Maybe look at the Sony Z3 Compact. Nice device.
 
So the upgraded camera, picture/video quality, speed increase, graphics increase, screen quality increase, new M8 commotion processor, upgraded FaceTime camera, secure payment options, faster wifi, faster LTE (if your in the area to get it), longer battery life, better scratch resistant screen and new design (i know, personal preference) doesn't give you a reason to upgrade from a 4s? o_O You can't be getting THAT old. lol :p

I agree that there are many upgrades.. But we have to admit, Apple is 18+ months late getting to the 5 inch screen party... at least that long.. But there new iPhone 6 is much like many previous. Its "50% faster" in every way. Im tired of upgrading parts and having no real innovation.

Yes, the screen is larger. And yes, its amazingly thin. But come on... You've got competition who's building similar devices (that sometimes cost less) that have more processing power, equally large screens and features that the iPhone is missing. Eye detection, motion detection. Apple is over a year late to NFC. It took 2 years to get the "command center" thing in iOS 7 with wifi etc toggles that android introduces.

Apple will say, its not about being first. Its about being the best.

Well apple built its brand on being the first. The first to introduce a consumer tablet. The first to have a fully touchscreen phone with no keyboard. SJ brought huge innovation to the market with those introductions and they changed the technological world. But since then, Apple has failed to stay ahead of the curve in many aspects.

Now I strongly favor iOS and OSX. I don't plan to leave apple. But I think that a lack of innovation and keeping up with whats out there...well, that means something in the long run. Its not just about making things thin and faster...

Im gonna buy a 6 because I'm due for an upgrade. But quite honestly, theres not a thing this 6 is gonna do that my iPhone 5 can't. And what I mean by that is, what I use my phone for day to day. The iPhone 5 does perfectly.
 
That's still pretty crappy battery life. Not sure why apple can't put larger batteries in their devices...

Because they need to make the phone thinner, of course! Resulting in, naturally, a protruding camera so the phone won't sit flat on your desk and creating a wonderful impact point if you drop it.

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Disappointing that they didn't leave an option for people who like smaller phones. Based on android phones I've tried out in stores both of these are too big to use with one hand. Since they decided to have 2 sizes why couldn't they have left a 3rd smaller one?

Yeah, incredibly disappointing. Next year when I'm due for an upgrade, I'll be looking a lot closer at the competition. I never wanted a phablet, I bought iPhones because Apple provided good phones in a small package.

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What about Sapphire????

You should have listened to me in all these sapphire rumor topics, sapphire never made sense for the iPhone. It was always for Apple's new smart watch. This made sense from a material science standpoint, a user standpoint, and a market standpoint.

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Soooo…. seems like Apple stuck with "shatter-resistant" Gorilla Glass for iPhone 6, rather than go with "scratch-resistant" Sapphire.

What's the consensus, boys and girls? Did Apple make the right technical decision by sticking with Gorilla Glass for the time being? I remember that a few days ago, a vast horde of MR posters were opining that GG was still a better choice than Sapphire as far as iPhone is concerned.


P.S. — and yes, it certainly made sense to use sapphire in the Apple Watch, since a watch will be subjected to potential scratches, dings, bumps and scrapes all day long since your hand and arms move all the time in all directions. Rarely will you "drop" your watch to a hard floor and see it shatter like glass.

As I've been saying all along, this is the right technical decision for Apple to have taken. Phones get dropped and shatter, watches get scratched. It makes sense to optimize for those situations. It's also the right choice in terms of economics. Crystals don't come out of the factory perfect, you have to scan each one and find the slices you can make that don't have flaws or cracks. Getting enough sapphire slices to meet market demand for a 4.7" or 5.5" device is a prohibitively expensive proposition, and borders on physically impossible.
 
I just traced the new dimensions on a sheet of paper and... LOL. The + one is huge. Make the bezels go away Apple!!!
 
Disappointing that they didn't leave an option for people who like smaller phones. Based on android phones I've tried out in stores both of these are too big to use with one hand. Since they decided to have 2 sizes why couldn't they have left a 3rd smaller one?
They did. Two, in fact. If you watched the keynote, you would've seen Phil explicitly say that they are leaving the 5S and 5C around at $99 and FREE respectively, for individuals such as yourself. Apple is not dumb when it comes to their customer base and, though your population is small, they didn't leave out those desiring a traditionally sized iPhone.
 
The Z3C is one of the alternatives I'm looking at to replace my Moto X, since the new X is a dud IMO and the iPhone 6 is not an impressive upgrade.
 
A few people have mentioned that already, but the fact that they are still selling the old models doesn't change the fact that there is no upgrade path for people who don't want a giant screen.

Yup, that's my dilemma... I've a 4S, bought on day of release, so almost 3 years old and I'm pretty much ready to replace it. When the 5 was released I was concerned over its size as, for me, the 4S is spot-on. So now I'm considering the 5S (great it dropped £120 in price from yesterday morning after the Store closed in preparation for the 6), but it's not a "proper" upgrade as such from a 4S.
My concern is when the 7 appears, will they drop the 5S (I presume so, as the 4S is now gone) and in turn have no "smaller" size, but just 4.7" and 5.5" screen-size models.
Not everyone wants a large display.
 
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