Apple Announces 'AirPrint' Wireless Printing for iOS Devices Coming in November

[calvin]

I don't usually go around correcting people's grammar and spelling but this is pretty hilarious and I thought I'd spare you future embarrassment by tipping you off on this...

"cottoned on to this"

The expression I believe you're trying to use is "caught on to this", as in "catch".

Bro, whoever you're hanging around and introduced that expression to you, I'm assuming they're saying "caughtened on to this" (which is still incorrect and also poor grammar) and you were led to believe it had something to do with the fluffy stuff. You need to hang around brighter people.

/end rant.

While I don't usually correct people, I thought your tone was fairly rude. 'Cottoned on' is a well understood expression, at least in the UK. Maybe the original poster was from a different country to you? I thought I'd save you future embarrassment if this comes up again:

To cotton to means to like, to admire or to become attached to. The allusion is to a thread of cotton which very easily attaches itself to clothing for example. It is an expression which is not used very much any more in contemporary British English.

Much more common is the colloquial expression to cotton on to which means to catch on or to grasp a line of thought:

They didn't know much English and it was surprising how quickly they cottoned on / caught on to what I was saying.
He still hasn't cottoned on to the fact that I'm not in the least bit interested in him.
The allusion is the same as before: cotton fibres or threads which become attached to clothing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv164.shtml

 

[writingdevil]

the same ppl i think

Who are the 4 people who voted this as negative? lol get a life.

every site i go to, there are ALWASY 7 negatives, i don't care what the info is. i honestly think some dullards, with nothing better to do, think they are somehow, by clicking on negative, affecting apple users/owners/prospective users/stockholders or who knows. very rarely, if ever, do i read a constructive comment that warrants a negative response. i just think MDR uses a great sense of humor in their reviews and some ppl just can't stand fun

 

[farmboy]

No, it's OK

-Ugh -- I'm afraid this is probably right.... However, I would feel at least a little better if this were officially clarified by Apple --even if I don't like it, I'll get over it faster if they would just acknowledge it!

(as I wuz saying before -
grrrrrrrrrr.............. )

Macwheels

Miriam Webster: Definition of COTTON. 1. : to take a liking —used with to <cottons to people easily> ...

 

[Brradley]

I don't usually go around correcting people's grammar and spelling but this is pretty hilarious...

It's pretty hilarious you being wrong, about being wrong.

 

[ipedro]

Thanks for the corrections guys. You learn something new all the time. I had never heard the expression said in that way. It caught my attention because the poster's grammar and spelling were perfect otherwise so such a glaring error (or so I thought) stood out rather prominently.

 

[sirozha]

So how is this any different that printers that already support Bonjour? I would *think* that Bonjour printers would "just work" with iOS 4.2 unless there is something more to AirPrint than wireless networking.

All Bonjour does is advertise an existing service: printer, network share, Time Machine volume, Web GUI Page, SMB/CIFS share, etc. Bonjour is a discovery protocol, not a printing protocol. The print jobs are handled by a locally installed printer driver. You don't have to have Bonjour running to be able to print to a network printer. You can use direct TCP/IP printing, for instance, but you won't be able to discover the printer on the network; hence, you would need to know the printer's IP address.

Also, Bonjour uses multicasts, which means you have to be on the same network segment as the printer. This only works in home office/small office environments. In bigger companies, printers can be several network segments away from the user's computer, and Bonjour will not help in discovering any services, including the printer.

 

[SockRolid]

Me too.

... Yeah, I can totally understand the concept of Fanboyism.

I became an Apple fan back in 1997. (So yes, I'm a relative newbie.) My first Mac was actually a Power Computing clone. Running Mac OS 7.6...

 

[Lochias]

Universal Mess? I don't think so

Hmm, grandiose plans. Will it actually work? Printing has always been a mess in small networks.

I have printers (laser and Canon color) on my Mac Pro, to which the other two home computers print (wirelessly, Bonjour) with no problem.

The only wrinkle is in the iPhones and iPad, for which everyone first has to get
the file to Print n Share.

iOS 4.2 takes care of that.

 

[macwheels]

Miriam Webster: Definition of COTTON. 1. : to take a liking —used with to <cottons to people easily> ...

Hi there farmboy -

My Mom was from the South, so I happened to have heard the expression "cottoned on" (also "cottoned onto") before

However, I'm confused as to why you quoted my earlier post regarding AirPrint, since I was not commenting on the "cottoned on" dialogue going in in this thread

Macwheels

 

[zed2]

Well I'm running 4.2 on my iPad and I can see the print option but it does seem to be able to see any of my printers.. I've even tried resharing the printers via my desktop.

Oh hum... Maybe lots more drivers need to be uploaded to the pad.

 

[sirozha]

I have printers (laser and Canon color) on my Mac Pro, to which the other two home computers print (wirelessly, Bonjour) with no problem.

The only wrinkle is in the iPhones and iPad, for which everyone first has to get
the file to Print n Share.

iOS 4.2 takes care of that.

Many people prefer having a network printer and not a printer attached to a computer because the computer would have to be on all the time. AirPrint will not work with pure network printers - the ones that use their own Wi-Fi or network cable connection - unless these network printers are compatible with AirPrint. Hence, most network printers will not support printing directly from an iOS device. This will cause a lot of grief for a lot of users who will have to change the way they use network printing unless they want to go and buy an AirPrint compatible printer.

 

[VenusianSky]

I have an HP wireless printer, but I don't think it is ePrint. I can print to it using the HP iPrint app. I wonder if that is the same thing.

 

[rwilliams]

Well I'm running 4.2 on my iPad and I can see the print option but it does seem to be able to see any of my printers.. I've even tried resharing the printers via my desktop.

Oh hum... Maybe lots more drivers need to be uploaded to the pad.

Have you installed the beta of Mac OS X 10.6.5? I think I saw in another thread that you need that in order for the printing to work.

 

[macwheels]

But what iOS 4.2 DOESN'T take care of is.....

I have printers (laser and Canon color) on my Mac Pro, to which the other two home computers print (wirelessly, Bonjour) with no problem.

The only wrinkle is in the iPhones and iPad, for which everyone first has to get
the file to Print n Share.

iOS 4.2 takes care of that.

..... connection between iPad & an older printer that does not have the new, magical, and revolutionary AirPrint software inside, like the new, magical, and revolutionary HP "ePrint" printer will.

Macwheels

 

[mex4eric]

Yes, this is a most welcome development -- I am very eager to be able to print wirelessly from my iPad, & shiny new iPod Touch I just wish the press release was more clear about whether or not I can use my 3 year old Canon printer, which prints wirelessly just fine via Airport with my Macbook under Snow Leopard -- however, the Macbook has a Canon driver installed in it; that's *why* I can print from the Macbook.

I do NOT want to be obliged to have the Macbook running just to enable the printer, obviously! I want to be able to print (via Airport) without use of any other device besides the iPad itself, running AirPrint. Is that going to be possible? Who (at Apple) is going to explain this better?

Yup, their press release sure is vague. Will it work with USB printers attached to an Airport Express, Extreme or Time Capsule? I sure hope so.

 

[DualShock]

Tomorrow's headline:

"AirPrint Networks Sues Apple For Trademark Infringement"

http://www.airprintnetworks.com/

 

[Cougarcat]

I have an HP wireless printer, but I don't think it is ePrint. I can print to it using the HP iPrint app. I wonder if that is the same thing.

I don't think ePrint printers exist yet. The press release said they are coming this fall.

 

[Piggie]

From what can surmise, you don't need a special printer, and any printer that connects to and works with one of your Macs will work. The special HP one means you go iOS->Network->Printer, not iOS->network->Mac->Network->Printer

Thanks, but note.

I don't want to have to fire up a computer in order to print 1 sheet from my iPad that's just silly.

I wish to print direct without anything else being turned on.

 

[tny]

This is one step closer to completely replacing a traditional computer with an iOS device. With Pages on an iPad (and hopefully soon an iPhone), who needs a traditional desktop with a word processor? Pretty awesome.

Anyone who needs footnotes or endnotes, equations, Greek ... and you can only get subscripts and superscripts with a bluetooth keyboard. I've found Pages on iPad to be quite a let down.

 

[sirozha]

Yup, their press release sure is vague. Will it work with USB printers attached to an Airport Express, Extreme or Time Capsule? I sure hope so.

I don't think it will work with Airport Express-, Extreme-, or Time Capsule- attached printers. The bottom line is that unless the printer is AirPrint compatible, the device sending the print job to the printer must have a locally installed printer driver. You cannot load a printer driver on Airport Express, Extreme, or time Capsule. Neither will you be able to load a printer driver on an iOS device.

The more I think about AirPrint the more I dislike it. Apple should have allowed to install printer drivers on iOS devices for printing to traditional printers and leave the option for AirPrint open for new printers.

 

[tbrinkma]

..... connection between iPad & an older printer that does not have the new, magical, and revolutionary AirPrint software inside, like the new, magical, and revolutionary HP "ePrint" printer will.

Macwheels

No need to get upset. The 'ePrint' printers just have extra functionality that lets you print to them even if they aren't otherwise on a network. Normal printers will work the same way they work on the network now. That's why this functionality on iOS also requires the new functionality in the new SL beta. (Likewise, I'm sure there will be a Bonjour for Windows update once this is out of beta.)

 

[redscull]

If this doesn't automatically work for any printer connected to a Time Capsule / AirPort Extreme, this feature is worthless to me and I suspect just about everyone that was excited by the first rumors surrounding it.

I do not want to buy a special printer when I already have one that works just fine. That's a waste of money and landfill space.

And I do not want to have to turn on a real computer first to accept the print request; there already exist 3rd party App solutions that accomplish that. Besides, if I had a real computer on, I'd use that to send the print request in the first place.

The whole buzz behind printing from iOS is that you can have a setup that includes nothing but wifi, a printer on that network, and an iOS device.. and you can print. That's the novelty. That's useful. As soon as it requires a real computer in the mix, this feature is neither new nor particularly useful.

I understand that printers need drivers, but why can't a Time Capsule have drivers on it? It has plenty of hard drive space. It runs some kind of operating system. And what about iOS devices themselves? Every iOS device I own has far more disk space and probably more computing power than any computer I had when I first bought the printer I'm still using to this day. Why can't iTunes sync printer drivers to my iOS device if I tell it I want it to be able to print?

 

[number9]

Thanks, but note.

I don't want to have to fire up a computer in order to print 1 sheet from my iPad that's just silly.

I wish to print direct without anything else being turned on.

Ok, well then you'll have to buy an ePrint printer or see if a printer connected to an Airport Express works.

but, for a lot of people, their computers don't get turned off often, if ever, so this shouldnt be an issue.

 

[Digitalclips]

I don't usually go around correcting people's grammar and spelling but this is pretty hilarious and I thought I'd spare you future embarrassment by tipping you off on this...

"cottoned on to this"

The expression I believe you're trying to use is "caught on to this", as in "catch".

Bro, whoever you're hanging around and introduced that expression to you, I'm assuming they're saying "caughtened on to this" (which is still incorrect and also poor grammar) and you were led to believe it had something to do with the fluffy stuff. You need to hang around brighter people.

/end rant.

I guess you are neither well travelled nor knowledgeable of the use of English other than the US variant.

Just for your edification:

The colloquial expression to cotton on to which means to catch on or to grasp a line of thought:

They didn't know much English and it was surprising how quickly they cottoned on / caught on to what I was saying.
He still hasn't cottoned on to the fact that I'm not in the least bit interested in him.

 

[sirozha]

No need to get upset. The 'ePrint' printers just have extra functionality that lets you print to them even if they aren't otherwise on a network. Normal printers will work the same way they work on the network now. That's why this functionality on iOS also requires the new functionality in the new SL beta. (Likewise, I'm sure there will be a Bonjour for Windows update once this is out of beta.)

This post makes zero sense. No understanding of networking whatsoever.