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This should not be a problem

When has that ever happened? Sure, payment processing systems have crashed or have slowed down at retailers in the past however, it would only be an issue if Amex, Mastercard, Visa, Discover were unable to process the transactions. Those systems do not use the internet to talk to each other. The use systems such a Plus, Most, Accel, CU 24 and Co-Op to name a few.

Summer of 2016 in my city/county. A squirrel fried a main transformer and it took anywhere from 6-11 days to restore power, depending on where you were located. The banks closed b/c w/o power there are no ATMs, vault doesn't open, etc. Gas Stations accepted cash only. Grocery Stores were closed and all freezer stock spoiled. No air conditioning, no lights, and all fresh and frozen food spoiled in residences. Thank heavens I keep $500 in cash for emergencies and had some emergency food. Of course I was able to charge my cell phone by starting up the car (and enjoying the blessed air conditioning for 30 minutes once a day). It really was a reminder that any interruption to the electrical grid can put an entire town and surrounding area back to a very primitive time.
 
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The best announcement today. Looking forward to getting that titanium Apple MasterCard. To be honest, if someone told me 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago that I would be saying that someday, I would’ve thought they were full of it. Welcome to Tim’s world.
 
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I’ve seen that, but that’s without the card, basically Apple Pay. It’s all those places people can use your card with absolutely no verification it’s actually your card that is the issue. Not to mention online.
No, look at the link. Step two is tap the ATM with your phone. Step three is entering your pin.
 
As someone else said: to buy stuff that we don’t have enough money to buy. Most of the time, alas, stuff we can and should do without (i.e. wait till we have the money to buy or not buy at all). BUT...to be fair, there are situations where a CC can help. Say, for example, that a person has been out of work and is low on money to buy anything new. They’re starting to do independent work, work that requires a good computer. They have jobs lined up, and if they don’t finish them, they won’t get paid....but their computer dies. They need to buy another, fast. A Credit Card will help them get that replacement computer fast—in time to complete the jobs and get the money.

Not saying Credit Cards are wonderful and good or financially wise...just sometimes useful.

Emergency Car Repairs, Medical Expenses, Unexpected Veterinarian bills and other large emergencies require many families to use a CC to pay over time. It's not ideal, but a blessing when you need it.
 
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It has a CC number, it's just not printed on the card for security reasons.

Agree the rewards are just about average for a no fee card.

for apps or websites that do not accept Apple Pay yet, safari autofill fills in the actual credit card credentials. People on here seem to not know that yet and think they won't be able to order more junk off of amazon, etc.
 
The best announcement today. Looking forward to getting that titanium Apple MasterCard. To be honest, if someone told me 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago that I would be saying that someday, I would’ve thought they were full of it. Welcome to Tim’s world.

Yeah I might also get it too as a souvenir.
 
This card actually sounds pretty good. 3% cash back on purchases from Apple and 2% everywhere else assuming I’m understanding correctly. No annual fees or international fees. This could be my new go to instead of my Citi DoubleCash Card.

Edit: post below mine says it’s 2% if using Apple Pay and 1% if using the physical card.

This is extremely good product.

When the nay-sayers out in full force you know it has something, just like original AirPods.
 
Emergency Car Repairs, Medical Expenses, Unexpected Veterinarian bills and other large emergencies require many families to use a CC to pay over time. It's not ideal, but a blessing when you need it.
Dave Ramsey would say your 3-6 month rainy day fund is for those situations and not a credit card with high interest rates.
 
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The etched titanium metal card would be amazing to whip out for a hot date.
 
Most places do fine but the US Postal Service offices will outright refuse if there's no signature on the card.

Maybe your Post Office, but not any of the ones that I’ve been to on a biweekly basis in the NY & NJ area for the past 15+ years that I have not been signing any of my credit or check / debit cards.
 
Will places accept a card with no numbers or signature? I doubt it


What makes you doubt it? All major companies no longer ask for signatures on chip enabled cards and only in emergencies do physical locations actually need a number to process an order. The only place you might have trouble is online shopping, for all in person transactions it’ll be hassle free.

https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/signatures-soon-may-not-be-required.php
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If our card system goes offline we don’t bother trying to process cards manually. Too much hassle. ‘Cash only or come back later’. So no change.


I’m actually a bit shocked by this, would lose 80% of sales doing that. Even the grocery store the other day was manually taking cards because the internet was down.
 
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So, let me get this straight. Apple is now getting into TV production? And the credit card business? To add to their use of Mac Hardware to expand into the mushrooming accessory business? "Anyone have a firewire to thunderbolt 2 to thunderbol3/usbc adapter?" This is less and less Steve Job's legacy...
 
number 5.... I don’t even want to imagine what the apr increase will be
 

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Dave Ramsey would say your 3-6 month rainy day fund is for those situations and not a credit card with high interest rates.

Does not seem very smart to pay cash when you can get rewards through a credit card. The right thing to do is build up a bunch of cash, make purchases with credit card, and payoff the credit card immediately with the cash.

I even used a credit card for a $10,000 down payment on a car and got 10,000 reward points for it. If I had known the card had a $30,000 limit, I would have done more like $20,000 on the card to get 20,000 reward points. In any event, I immediately paid off the $10,000 on the credit card within a day of using it for the down payment. Of course this not a good idea for people who don't have the cash sitting there.
 
So what happens if you’re card gets compromised because we all know some hacker dude will find out how? Do you call Apple or message only through messenger or whatever?
 
Will places accept a card with no numbers or signature? I doubt it
Just about everywhere in the US. I think maybe once or twice in the last 10 years have I had anyone check the signature on the back of my cards. Nobody checks that anymore, at least here in this country. Everyone just swipes the card and moves on, signatures are out-dated ID verification nowadays, especially since a lot of people don't even have recognizable signatures (I used to work retail and banking both, so I would know).
 
Strangely enough, I think this is the most exciting thing they announced today!
I was actually ready to be all over this card and was going to sign up as soon as it was available but then I saw it's being issued by Goldman Sachs...
 
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because they spend money they don't have
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What always blows my mind is why Americans use credit card. Its much easier to use debit. Why would you ever want to pay banks fees?
Laws favor credit cards with several fraud protections, no liability if your card is lost/stolen/hacked. Debit cards you are at your banks mercy and no guarantees you’ll be made whole for lost/stolen debit cards and maybe $50 fraud liability.
 
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Hear that sound? It’s the sound of Steve Jobs rolling in his grave.
Oh, please! :rolleyes: Were he alive, Steve would be patting Tim on the back right now saying, “Way to close the infinite loop!” You use Apple’s credit card to buy apple’s products, and thus, everything is kept even more within the ecosystem. Which was STEVE’s ultimate goal and is still Apple’s guiding philosophical star. The customer buys the software for the hardware and vice versa. This credit card fits in perfectly with that—and it’s as zen looking as an original iPod. Everyone’s going to want to have it in their wallet just for how cool it will look to pull it out and use it.

If that isn’t classic Steve Jobs/Apple, I don’t know what is. He’s jumping for joy right now.

For future reference: If your’e going to say someone’s rolling in their grave, best to have them do so over something credible. Like, Jim Henson rolling over his grave because his muppets are teaching kids to code. But Steve Jobs objecting to an aesthetically elegant and “simple” Credit Card that’s going to make Apple richer and more powerful? :cool: I don’t think so.
 
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“Proud to partner with Goldman Sachs” is a hell of a statement

Seems a bit tone deaf

I'm going to pass. I don't trust Goldman Sachs and too much financial information on the iPhone despite Apple telling us our privacy is their utmost concern. There is always someone looking for ways to hack into cyberspace and difficult to straighten out your credit reporting agencies so for now, actual credit cards will do.


And a rarity when someone actually ask to see my credit card.

They definitely don’t inspire confidence based on their past behavior.

I am still a little confused with the Goldman choice... Not so much because people think they are evil, but because they don't really have much experience in the commercial bank space. Before they started that loan service this past year they were all Investment bank for institutional investors and asset management for high wealth individuals.... I wonder why Apple didn't go with someone like Citi, or Chase, etc... that have been doing credit cards and commercial banking for ages.. or with Barclays who they already had a relationship with.

I agree. Hard to trust them with their core business, even harder to trust them with managing a brand new business they have no experience with. Next thing you know they’ll start shorting their own customers and bet against them to default on their Apple credit cards ...
 
Does not seem very smart to pay cash when you can get rewards through a credit card. The right thing to do is build up a bunch of cash, make purchases with credit card, and payoff the credit card immediately with the cash.

I even used a credit card for a $10,000 down payment on a car and got 10,000 reward points for it. If I had known the card had a $30,000 limit, I would have done more like $20,000 on the card to get 20,000 reward points. In any event, I immediately paid off the $10,000 on the credit card within a day of using it for the down payment. Of course this not a good idea for people who don't have the cash sitting there.
If you pay it off right away basically.

Good idea to use it for large purchases, although with cars I found that most dealerships limit to a few thousand that could be charged. You kind of got lucky in that sense that you were able to charge as much as $10K.
 
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If you pay it off right away basically.

Good idea to use it for large purchases, although with cars I found that most dealerships limit to a few thousand that could be charged. You kind of got lucky in that sense that you were able to charge as much as $10K.

They were desperate to get the deal done that evening. I didn't walk in there expecting to buy a car, but I had a ton of cash ready to do so. I asked them if they would let me go to my bank the next morning so I could get a check from my bank account. The guys were pretty pushy and offered the credit card option. Guess they were afraid I would change my mind if I left overnight, but I was pretty determined to buy the car.

The credit card option didn't make sense to me when they brought it up, but turned out pretty good in the end for me to get the reward points. I only wish I realized my card limit at the time so I could have pushed for a bigger amount on the down payment. lol
 
Apple as usual baffling people with ********. This is absurd.

“Variable APRs range from 13.24% to 24.24% based on creditworthiness. Rates as of March 2019"

25% is criminal and 14% as "low" is ****ing laughable.

Little Timmy's Apple ladies and gentlemen.
 
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