luckydcxx
macrumors 65816
That's some coincidence that they both come out at nearly the same time.
Apple Announces 'CarPlay' iOS Vehicle Integration Feature
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That's some coincidence that they both come out at nearly the same time.
They already need to update h/w to satisfy expected iOS user experiences (e.g., touchscreen performance). This type of basic expectation will be welcomed by everyone.
Apple make chips too. Perhaps they can sell something to the car companies to fit in their nextgen in-car control system.
Running the software on iOS is brilliant. That way we can update the software independently.
SierraRomeo7
macrumors newbie
Yes, i guess there will be a need for a kind of hardware to make it work.
But CarPlay is nothing more than a X264 video feed, with controls back to your phone. I guess it will need very few hardware update to make it work.
As for the Volvo screen shot, i am sure that if you disconnect your iphone, that screen space will be filled up with the "classic" system of your car, for example Android and Google maps.
There is nothing iOS only in this technology. Again, it is just a layer that replaces your onboard system if you connect your iPhone. Via a video feed.
Rogifan
macrumors Penryn
Yes but if hardware is required that hardware doesn't lock you down to iOS/CarPlay. Apple isn't getting in the business of building infotainment systems for cars, their building a layer that sits on top for people who own iOS devices.
Just like how it's a coincidence Apple has only decided to enter the market AFTER Blackberry and Microsoft have been in it and help create the market.
mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
Google doesn't make prototypes of cars that no longer need a driver.
Google augments an 3rd party automobile with an automated system showing AI developed at NASA.
Rogifan
macrumors Penryn
Yes! Not being tied to the automakers schedule for software updates is a big plus.
SierraRomeo7
macrumors newbie
If it works like AirPlay, then it means: AirPlay stack on multiple OSes !
Are you sure ? I agree the software run on iOS though. This will solve most if not all the software update, complexity, performance and security issues.
Yes i'm sure.
I was sure even before the announcement from Volvo, I quote :
"Apple CarPlay allows connection of iPhone to the car through a Lightning cable with Wi-Fi coming in the near future.
The connection is based on a streaming H.264 video feed that returns user input from the touch screen."
Not really. BlackBerry bought QNX and they make car OS.
This sounds more like integrating with or layering on top of QNX and Windows (in a non-intrusive way!) to offer Apple app and content ecosystem.
Other than the familiar UI, it's like having iTunes and your favorite third party iOS apps over QNX and SYNC. And you have options to do the same across car brands when they roll out in full scale.
Entune from Toyota is different from CarPlay too. Entune itself is like a monolithic ecosystem that only runs on Toyota's car OS.
luckydcxx
macrumors 65816
no not at all, this is a specific software feature.
The WiFi part sounds like AirPlay. The wired part not so. Perhaps they have 2 implementations for the same concept. Either way, it sounds like AirPlay will be on car OSes.
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There is a Tesla iOS app.
Tesla will have their own app store that is controlled by themselves.
In CarPlay context, it's ok. Apple will "AirPlay" iOS apps over Tesla's OS independent of the base Linux layer or even the Android emulator. You don't have to run iOS on Tesla per se. For example, if some new apps need more powerful CPU or GPU to run, it is still ok because they run on your new iPhone. The trusty Tesla OS will focus on running the car safely and responsively.
The Android emulator if Tesla proceed will also be outdated because it will be limited by Tesla's CPU and long h/w refresh cycle.
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No, it's exactly the same as what everyone else already offers, just done differently. It is a system to integrate your smartphone into your car's systems, exactly the same as what you can already get.
And it will need specific hardware, no matter how little, for CarPlay to work.
Real life is often stranger than fiction. Nothing really surprising there for it to be coincidental or at least most certainly not related to any copying.
osofast240sx
macrumors 68030
You don't get a pat on the back for creating a mess, because the current system is a hot mess!
Haha, it's the same and yet done differently = it's different.
Certainly different from SYNC and QNX. It's different layer.
I also can't get iOS apps and content on either OS today. It may be limited to a few CarPlay apps now, but if it truly supports AirPlay, then anything is possible by just tweaking the original iOS apps.
It doesn't matter if they need specific h/w. Siri Eyes Free needs a mic and steering wheel buttons too. Understandably, the touchscreen should be updated to achieve satisfactory response. They also need a lightning connector, which should be waterproof by design ?
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dontwalkhand
macrumors 604
Yeah because they definitely want to be messing with that Android OS
The Doctor11
macrumors 603
Well you said that google is copying apple but goolge was in the car first.
dontwalkhand
macrumors 604
Exactly this. The phone world was also a hot mess prior to iPhone.
It's only a mess because you believe it to be, when it is NOT a mess in anyway, and YES it IS exactly the same, you are the one stating how it's done differently, but the goal and the end user experience is still the exact same, car, phone, integrated. And don't pull the iOS apps either, because you should NOT be playing around with apps whilst driving FACT! The only apps people need is smart satnav which we already have. Internet radio which we already have.
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haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha is all I have to say to this one!
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Your quoting the wrong person there I'm afraid, I suggest you backtrack through the thread and read it mate.
Ask FORD why they want to drop SYNC.
The old phone world was indeed a mess. We had to tweak our phone software for 300+ phone models. And after deployment, it was a mess to manage and update.
Why can't the passengers use the iOS apps in CarPlay ? By acting like it's a bad thing to have iOS apps in CarPlay, you already imply that your favorite SYNC can't do it. So it's again different. Just admit it.
Technically, they work at different layers too.
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Why would I? As I said I have have had Fords Sync and it's worked perfectly fine. And one car maker using one system does not equate to a mess for everyone.
And where have I said exactly that passengers can't use iOS apps in CarPlay? I think you must be getting a confused message if you think I implied that. And the 'old' phone system was not a mess, just lazy developers from your saying who now only choose to use one product for their apps because it's easier.
ssspinball
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danielsutton
macrumors 6502
"Volvo's press release also makes clear that while the initial implementation of CarPlay will require a wired connection using an iPhone's Lightning connector, Wi-Fi connectivity will be "coming in the near future".
What I was getting at, is that I wanted to see a wireless interface connecting iPhones to the CarPlay system, and it seems that we are going to see a development like this not far into the future
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"Volvo's press release also makes clear that while the initial implementation of CarPlay will require a wired connection using an iPhone's Lightning connector, Wi-Fi connectivity will be "coming in the near future".
I am excited that CarPlay will have a wireless interface soon!!
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"Volvo's press release also makes clear that while the initial implementation of CarPlay will require a wired connection using an iPhone's Lightning connector, Wi-Fi connectivity will be "coming in the near future". It is already happening!
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"Volvo's press release also makes clear that while the initial implementation of CarPlay will require a wired connection using an iPhone's Lightning connector, Wi-Fi connectivity will be "coming in the near future".
What I wanted to see was a wireless interface to CarPlay, and we are going to see that through Wi-Fi. The CarPlay system will likely provide a hotspot to connect to. Would be awesome if it included tethering too, so other devices in the car could use the iPhone/iPad as an access point to the Internet.