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no color matching earpods? my kids = :(:(

True, gotta go to Android for Moto's overpriced Moto X and overpriced matching earpods. Although that's not to say the pricing for the 5c isn't way disappointing either.

It'll be interesting to see how this thing sells, my guess is it won't sell well since you get so much more with the 5s - if they offered the 5s in the colors (as well) they'd sell a ton of them.
 
Ok, I'll give you the iPad. But that is one example in a long history.

Apple II was more expensive than Atari, or Commodore, and other 6502 based machines.

Macintosh was more expensive than Atari ST, Commodore Amiga or Acorn Archimedes and other 68000 based machines.

Apple's line of laser printers were almost criminally expensive.

Macintosh was and still is more expensive than similar spec PCs.

The iPod was more expensive than Creative or Zune offerings.

The iPod was initially cheaper than other tablet offerings. That has since passed as they give away Android Tablets with newspaper subscriptions.

So yes, there is one example in 40 years. I'm sure there are other examples, but the trend is quite the opposite.

How well did the Apple II sell against the competition?
How well did the Macintosh sell against the competition?
How well did Apple's line of printers sell?
etc

The only thing on your list that kept being #1 even when the competition got good is the iPod. And the thing about the iPod iswhile it costs more than the competition it doesn't cost very much to buy one.
 
$100 is $100. Comparing it to the overall cost of your contract is not really relevant.

Exactly. In this credit-oriented world, the upfront cost is *the only thing* the consumer pays attention to, it's why those "no money down" deals always do so well and are so heavily promoted. $100 is $100, the 5c is 1/2 the price of the 5s and that's what the average consumer will see.
 
The driving market which is the subsidized phone market a $100 is huge. Most of the people buying the phones on contract probably can't even really afford it to begin with. They are stretching it to just pay $99 living paycheck to paycheck. Even if you are buying one outright $100 is $100 no matter how you slice it. Apple has the high end mark and the low end market in mind. Apple will make their record sales as usual.

i am not familiar enough with the subsidized market. its the same price difference for the unsubsidized and converted to my currency and local tax the price is over $1000.

but its in context to the difference in the devices i mean.

i think its a rip off. it should be much more of a financial incentive to get the 5c but then again not offering colors like gray and black and the pathetic way the iphone names comes through on the cover shows the thought apple put into it
 
Honestly shocked at the price of the 5C - if this was being released immediately and I'd been camping outside an Apple store, I'd throw a brick through the window when the prices were announced.
 
US$549 for 16 GB and $649 for 32 GB for unlocked and contract free. I've said this before but WHAT market are they targeting?

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This. Except it's 4.7" and 250€/$329 with taxes vs. 505€/$549 without taxes. Oh, and it doesn't have neither a retina display nor an 8 megapixel camera. Nor an A6-class chip.
 
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100 bucks less for washed out plastics, a last gen camera and CPU. Honestly who would fall for this? Ridiculous. Tim is ruining this company. Can innovate my arse!
 
The pricing on 5c is ridiculous!!!!

The moment Steve Jobs left, the company is run by a bunch bean counting retards without modicum of vision!!! Enough said;)
 
Maybe after a year the iPhone 5 is still too expensive to make. The aluminum unibody must still be too hard to engineer. Because if Apple could make the same margins with the iPhone 5 being $100 cheaper then you are exactly right. Just sell brightly colored cases.

Maybe so, but they could have at least made a black and white option. There's not many grown men who would walk around with a bright yellow phone.
 
Lets see:
  1. 64 bit CPU
  2. Motion coprocessor
  3. New version of Open GL
  4. New GPU
  5. Finger print reader
  6. Heavily reworked iOS
  7. More carrier support
  8. Vastly improved camera
Yep nothing above to crow about.

Looking at it objectively this is possibly the biggest iPhone upgrade in some time.
Meh to all of those. Probably the same guy who said specs don't matter when android people make posts.
 
That's a guarantee that I'll be picking up a Nexus 4, if they're still in stock, if Apple is going to even consider a price that high.

They really dropped the ball with that contract pricing. They should have shown us what they're capable of without one for the rest of the world. There is one outside of the United States.

Sure, Nexus 4 is 3G phone, no LTE (no LTE antena). Get that fact straight. Don't say that you can tweak to make LTE chip in NX4 work because Google patched it with Jelly Bean 4.2.2.
 
The 5C strategy doesn't make any sense. But for those shouting the 5C would be for newcomers, you are wrong. Here in Portugal (where phones are more expensive than anywhere else in the world) grabbed an i4 for $290. Brand new. And they still sell those in China for a reason.

Plus, the most likely is Apple's having higher margins on the 5C right now. In Q1 '14, they just launch an 8GB 5C and discontinue the 4S. This allows for ever larger profits since the phone is already mass-produced and people will be happy like there will be unicorns everywhere. (don't forget we'll all be using iOS 7)
 
They didn't even have a real phone to show anybody. No iPhone 5c, no iPhone 5s and no IOS 7 to demo. Its all vaporware. What the hell have they been doing for the last year. This is so sad and embarrassing. They really do miss Steve.:confused::eek::(

What? They had demos after the show with ios 7..

Also, you clearly don't know what vaporware means.
 
The affordable iPhone...for the 1%. I thought Apple was going to make an iPhone that was affordable without a contract. :eek: It looks more like they wanted to make a phone that had better profit margins. Total fail in my opinion. I love my mac computer, but the rest I can live without. :D
 
I wonder if Apple decided they couldn't afford to simply drop the price of the 5 by $100, considering it's still almost as good as the 5S. And the 5S isn't worth another $100 to most over the 5, but it is worth $100 more than the 5C for sure.

That's their logic, in my opinion. And I can see how it makes sense in a board room with all the romanticized poetics, but hopefully people won't be so easily fooled.

Then again, I'm sure it appeals to kids and teens, although the palette of colours is very Easter-ish and feminine.

Personally, I would buy a thinner, nicer finished 5, and get a plastic colored case if you want the color. It would be cheaper than either, just as thick as the 5C with the case, or just as sleek without as the 5S.

PS I wasn't expecting the price to be that low of the 5C because the main piece they changed doesn't save that much. The rest seems to be still iPhone 5.

PPS A memory bump to 32 GB minimum would have taken the edge off people's complaints. At some point, Apple may be best to accept slightly lower margins in order to stay competitive.
 
The 5C will sell like crazy. I understand the criticism about the specs and plastic case, but it doesn't matter. The target market for this phone are middle class teenagers and young adults. Parents are uncomfortable buying their kids the latest most expensive smartphone, so this will relieve some of the guilt, whist giving in to their kid's desire for an iPhone.. It isn't logical...but, parents do this type of thing all of the time. Me included!

Besides, most people have absolutely no idea what type of hardware is in their phone.....and don't care. If they like the color and it is less expensive, while running the latest Apps and OS, then they will buy it!
 
So basically they replaced the beautiful iPhone 5 with a plastic iPhone 5C but kept the same price... Terrible.

Not terrible when it comes to profit margin. Tim Cook knows how to make money. This thing will fly off the shelves because it is "new" and it's an "iPhone" and make a lot more money doing it.
 
might depend on how its received but apple can be as greedy and self serving as the come.

and i agree with the comments regarding the prices. apple is not a small company that is just for california or the usa. i for dont give a **** about contract prices. its as anti consumer as it gets

Not as greedy as me. I want the phone free.

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Then again, I'm sure it appeals to kids and teens, although the palette of colours is very Easter-ish and feminine.

The whole iOS 7 is so girlish somewhat wrote an entire article on it. Look at the game center icon, could you conceive of a more feminine, abstract, or boring icon.

I agree with you other points about pricing.
 
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