Apple Announces Digital WWDC 2022 Event Taking Place June 6-10

[LonestarOne]

How is it selfish to go back to living, every other business has been back to work for a year or more and concerts and sporting events still happen every day . Welcome to reality ??‍♂️

And how many thousands of people have died because of those concerts and sporting events? Stop thinking like a politician. You don’t need to crowd into a stadium with a mob to watch a sporting event or hear a concert. This isn’t the 19th Century. Television was invented. So was the Internet.

The idea that you aren’t “living” unless you’re spreading viruses and killing people is nonsense. Welcome to reality.

 

[JippaLippa]

Can't wait to see all the bloat macOS 13 will include, while I prepare my taste buds for the plethora of new bugs we'll have the priviledge to experience.

 

[JippaLippa]

They promised the AS transition would take two years. So maybe a 27” iMac replacement + new Mac Pro?

Wouldn't it make sense for it to be 2 years since the release of the first chip (M1) in November?

In my opinion it would make better sense, as I think the Mac Pro will have some variation of the M2 Chip and I'd expect presenting the regular M2 Chips before (anytime in the summer).

 

[sjsharksfan12]

Please fix Apple Music. That's all I ask. That, and maybe make some changes to TVOS because it's boring. I've seen fan designs that are much better than what Apple Provides, and they should be experts at this kind of thing.

 

[Rychiar]

And how many thousands of people have died because of those concerts and sporting events? Stop thinking like a politician. You don’t need to crowd into a stadium with a mob to watch a sporting event or hear a concert. This isn’t the 19th Century. Television was invented. So was the Internet.

The idea that you aren’t “living” unless you’re spreading viruses and killing people is nonsense. Welcome to reality.

Omicron is a cold, this is life now, much like the flu, yes some people can die but we can’t stop the world for it. The economy is already feeling the last couple years badly

 

[Solomani]

I really hope not. WWDC as well as the apple events seem to lose their charm without a live audience. I enjoy seeing the presenters mess up and simply act like human beings as well, and that’s lost in the pre-recorded stuff.

I'm with you. I hope not too. I am old enough to have attended the roaring Macworld Expos (in San Francisco Moscone Ctr) in the mid to late 90s and into the early 2000s. That was a golden era. One of my memorable MW Expo was around the year when Steve Jobs came back to Apple! Then-CEO Gilbert Amelio brought Steve back a few months earlier, I believe it was the 1997 Expo. Steve was brought back into Apple, but Amelio still technically remained as the company CEO. I was at the Expo, and it was like Christmas morning for all the tens and tens of thousands of attendees. Sadly, the keynote with Steve Jobs was standing room only, that I neither had reserved seating nor could I enter because the auditorium was already standing room only.

Later that afternoon, as I was buying Mac/Apple related souvenirs at the Exhibit Halls (my prized catch was an official Apple rainbow logo coffee mug) ... CEO Amelio (he's a tie-and suit guy) and his retinue was strolling along the same exhibitors hall at Moscone. I turned around. He smiled at me. I went up to say hi, and CEO Amelio shook my hands warmly. He ALSO signed my poster.... the vintage Bondi Blue iMac Expo Promo Poster which was given away as swag.

I never got to see Steve Jobs during that expo. I was told that Steve did not "mingle" with the Mac peasants and common fanboys like me. I was told that Steve spent more of his time chatting with the lead Mac software devs.

It was still the best expo I can remember!

P.S. --- less than a year after I shook Amelio's hands at the Expo.... Steve Jobs would wrest full control of Apple, and (with the Board's support) Steve kicked out Amelio and took control of Apple once more.

 

[MacNerd01]

I'm with you. I hope not too. I am old enough to have attended the roaring Macworld Expos (in San Francisco Moscone Ctr) in the mid to late 90s and into the early 2000s. That was a golden era. One of my memorable MW Expo was around the year when Steve Jobs came back to Apple! Then-CEO Gilbert Amelio brought Steve back a few months earlier, I believe it was the 1997 Expo. Steve was brought back into Apple, but Amelio still technically remained as the company CEO. I was at the Expo, and it was like Christmas morning for all the tens and tens of thousands of attendees. Sadly, the keynote with Steve Jobs was standing room only, that I neither had reserved seating nor could I enter because the auditorium was already standing room only.

Later that afternoon, as I was buying Mac/Apple related souvenirs at the Exhibit Halls (my prized catch was an official Apple rainbow logo coffee mug) ... CEO Amelio (he's a tie-and suit guy) and his retinue was strolling along the same exhibitors hall at Moscone. I turned around. He smiled at me. I went up to say hi, and CEO Amelio shook my hands warmly. He ALSO signed my poster.... the vintage Bondi Blue iMac Expo Promo Poster which was given away as swag.

I never got to see Steve Jobs during that expo. I was told that Steve did not "mingle" with the Mac peasants and common fanboys like me. I was told that Steve spent more of his time chatting with the lead Mac software devs.

It was still the best expo I can remember!

P.S. --- less than a year after I shook Amelio's hands at the Expo.... Steve Jobs would wrest full control of Apple, and (with the Board's support) Steve kicked out Amelio and took control of Apple once more.

That sounds like it would have been exciting. Steve was such a great presenter, I wish he could come back from the dead and lead apple again (no offense to TC). Speaking of the poster you were talking about, do you still have it?

 

[EugW]

I just want to see another presenter throw a device into the crowd again.

 

[MacNerd01]

I just want to see another presenter throw a device into the crowd again.

When did that happen?

 

[EugW]

When did that happen?

 

[Solomani]

 

[dwaltwhit]

In the later years, it was a visual representation of the scalping community, though. Those fights are not what Apple wants around their stores.

How dare you expose my unbridled nostalgia with your facts!

 

[macsplusmacs]

I like Online WWDC because....

My couch.
My 75" TV
My beer mug.

 

[RandomDSdevel]

-----Soooo, who's going to start the usual wish list threads for all the OSes?

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Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll announce Chromium Safari.

-----Ugh, more browser engine homogeneity instead of the same amount or less?! No thank you.

 

[sorgo †]

-----Soooo, who's going to start the usual wish list threads for all the OSes?

iOS is already covered—this thread almost seems to function more as a wishlist than anything.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

They actually said they “expect” it to take “about” two years…and there’s been a massive supply chain crisis in the middle of it. Don’t be surprised if they don’t quite get it done in 730 days.

Why not?
According to what Apple said during their last event, they have “one” more product left to transition, the MacPro.
The Mac Pro is already an extremely low volume product, there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t be able to get one out before the end of the year in low quantities, especially since they already mentioned it by name.
Outside of that, The only other product left on Apple‘s website that you can purchase brand new with an Intel processor is the high-end Mac Mini, and if Apple’s wording at their last event is any indication, that thing has a very high probability of going the same way as the 27 inch iMac.
Or they could quietly introduce a version of it with an M1pro anytime between now and the end of the year.
Either way, there’s nothing pointing to the two-year transition not being completed within two years.
Two products are left, One extremely low volume and one that can easily just be killed off and brought back at a later date

 

[EugW]

Why not?
According to what Apple said during their last event, they have “one” more product left to transition, the MacPro.
The Mac Pro is already an extremely low volume product, there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t be able to get one out before the end of the year in low quantities, especially since they already mentioned it by name.
Outside of that, The only other product left on Apple‘s website that you can purchase brand new with an Intel processor is the high-end Mac Mini, and if Apple’s wording at their last event is any indication, that thing has a very high probability of going the same way as the 27 inch iMac.
Or they could quietly introduce a version of it with an M1pro anytime between now and the end of the year.
Either way, there’s nothing pointing to the two-year transition not being completed within two years.
Two products are left, One extremely low volume and one that can easily just be killed off and brought back at a later date

As you have said, Apple themselves basically has said only the Mac Pro has yet to transition, and I'd expect (with my guess being a 60:40 chance) that it will be announced at WWDC. And if not WWDC, then the fall. So yeah I agree, the transition will take about 2 years and likely will not bleed into 2023.

As for the high end Mac mini, whether or not it gets M1 Pro is likely irrelevant from the 2 year promise, since this class of Mac has already transitioned from Apple's perspective. We can hope for an M1 Pro, or maybe an M2 Pro next year, but that would just be an update/fleshing out of an already-transitioned Mac class.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Nah, they’re just curious about how Apple would be run with a Broadway producer as a CEO.

My prediction? Not very well! LOL

The thing about Scott was, while under Jobs’s iron fist, things could be implemented.
But from what’s come out about his future plans for iOS at the time, I don’t think that he would have continued in the direction that everyone thinks that he would have.
If I’m remembering correctly, he was against airdrop on the iPhone, he was against the control center, he was against any future expansion at least at the time of the operating systems to third-party developers.
iOS 7 was a bit rough, but once The new design was refined over a year or two, I would say that it started becoming what it should have always been.
Scott’s Philosophy, at least from what we have heard about it, was stuck in 2008.
The iPhone in 2013 and Forward was a very, very different beast than it was in 2008. It needed to move forward, and iOS6 did not move forward
You couldn’t even share things to third-party apps without being in those third-party apps, unless it was Facebook and Twitter.
Background app refresh wasn’t really a thing.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

The one drawback I see is that an online WWDC does not provide an opportunity for developers to get hands-on with new Apple hardware that’s introduced at the event. But that’s a minor point. How much can a developer really glean from a few minutes with a new Mac Pro while a hundred others are waiting on line behind him?

Apple never actually let developers get much hands-on time with new hardware or whatever at WWDCs in the past.
They got the same presentation that everyone watched online, and maybe an additional presentation showing different use cases.
That’s about it, they never actually got to touch the machines. Some limited press were able to, but developers couldn’t get their hands on it until everyone else could, by purchasing it months later

 

[jonblatho]

Why not?
According to what Apple said during their last event, they have “one” more product left to transition, the MacPro.
The Mac Pro is already an extremely low volume product, there’s absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t be able to get one out before the end of the year in low quantities, especially since they already mentioned it by name.
Outside of that, The only other product left on Apple‘s website that you can purchase brand new with an Intel processor is the high-end Mac Mini, and if Apple’s wording at their last event is any indication, that thing has a very high probability of going the same way as the 27 inch iMac.
Or they could quietly introduce a version of it with an M1pro anytime between now and the end of the year.
Either way, there’s nothing pointing to the two-year transition not being completed within two years.
Two products are left, One extremely low volume and one that can easily just be killed off and brought back at a later date

I have no clue whether the Mac Pro will be announced at WWDC or not (doubt they’d spend “stage” time on it otherwise), but I’m somewhat skeptical that they’d have mentioned that the Mac Pro is still yet to come if there was only going to be a gap of less than three months. (Never mind Apple’s decision to specify that M1 Ultra is the final M1 SoC.)

Perhaps they could have been trying to assuage concerns that the Mac Studio is the new Mac Pro, but if that was the case, Apple has other ways of addressing that. Like during WWDC 2017’s keynote when the iMac Pro was announced just a couple months after Apple held that roundtable talk with reporters about the languishing 2013 Mac Pro, tweets were flying within minutes along the lines of “I’m told that this is not the Mac Pro redesign that Apple was talking about.”

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

How is it selfish to go back to living, every other business has been back to work for a year or more and concerts and sporting events still happen every day . Welcome to reality ??‍♂️

For many artists, concerts are what pay the bills.
The gig economy was one of the hardest hit by Covid
Apple in person conferences don’t change anything, other than the fact that less people can attend, and the keynotes are much longer and full of fluff. I much prefer these short, concise, informational events over the fluff.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Do you think we will ever see a massive overhaul of iOs GUI or is there really no where to go with that?

Really depends on your definition but in terms of a completely fundamental redesign of every Element or a start from scratch, like going from OS9 to OS X, absolutely not.
The grid of icons isn’t going anywhere.
the iOS userbase is so large, ans the vast majority of customers want their phone to look, feel, and act the same way that it always has. They don’t want to update their phone one day, or have it update for them, and all of a sudden everything is completely different from how it was yesterday.
Even the iOS 6 to 7 transition was controversial for a lot of people.
Now as for a new splash of paint here and there, I think you’ll continue to see certain elements get redesigned overtime, just like they have for the past 9 years or so.
Tuns of small changes here and there

 

[Boil]

 

[Unregistered 4U]

The thing about Scott was

The thing about Scott was that, while pretty much everyone else that left Apple was snatched up quickly by another tech company that knew their skills and worth, Scott wasn’t even asked to be on any tech companies board. I think that speaks volumes for his effectiveness as a leader in technology.

 

[Boil]

The thing about Scott was that, while pretty much everyone else that left Apple was snatched up quickly by another tech company that knew their skills and worth, Scott wasn’t even asked to be on any tech companies board. I think that speaks volumes for his effectiveness as a leader in technology.

Big Oof...!