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The whole CarPlay thing feels and sounds like a half-baked idea in the current form. I don't think Apple has it figured out how they want just yet or can't move forward with their vision. A fair portion of the blame for that is the automobile manufacturers. I don't think they even know what anyone wants as far as that kind of integration, nor do they want to test the limits of what is legal (distracted driving laws, etc).

I know I'd be pretty pissed if I were a automobile maker and some idiot with a rooted phone sues me because said idiot got hacked and his car got destroyed/stolen because of it.

My impression is that Apple wants to control the UI of all in dash systems via the iPhone, and the auto manufactures don't like the idea that there would be less hassle moving between a BMW, Volt, and Prius. It feels a lot like what Microsoft tried to do with the X Box One and the cable box. The idea is good, but the people who make the cable boxes and the carrier that bought them want you to be frustrated when you try a different product. That frustration is removed by the X Box One and suddenly there is less friction when switching between Comcast and DirecTV. Cars are so expensive that any feature that increases the likelihood of staying with a manufacture is a good thing, at least to the manufacture.

Remember in the Keynote when they talked about different size dashes no longer being an issue? That was Apple saying there is not really an excuse for buying a new car that doesn't support CarPlay.
 
Four years since Siri was introduced and I still have to press a button to activate voice recognition.

I hope iPhone 6S will have the hardware so Siri can be active all the time.
 
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My impression is that Apple wants to control the UI of all in dash systems via the iPhone, and the auto manufactures don't like the idea that there would be less hassle moving between a BMW, Volt, and Prius. It feels a lot like what Microsoft tried to do with the X Box One and the cable box. The idea is good, but the people who make the cable boxes and the carrier that bought them want you to be frustrated when you try a different product. That frustration is removed by the X Box One and suddenly there is less friction when switching between Comcast and DirecTV. Cars are so expensive that any feature that increases the likelihood of staying with a manufacture is a good thing, at least to the manufacture.

Remember in the Keynote when they talked about different size dashes no longer being an issue? That was Apple saying there is not really an excuse for buying a new car that doesn't support CarPlay.

The reason the dash sizes don't matter much in the equation anymore is because of a still slightly changing, but mostly solidified requirement to have backup cameras as standard equipment by May 2018 (2018 sound familiar?) in all US bound models (pending the outcome of a few more automaker lawsuits that may delay it further). Not because of Apple bringing out CarPlay...

Apple is just setting up camp now to test ideas and take a slice of the pie. The pie was already baked years ago.
 
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Five years since Siri was introduced and I still have to press a button to activate voice recognition.

I hope iPhone 6S will have the hardware so Siri can be active all the time.

And I'll be the first to shout through a PA in a crowded, quiet theater filled with people I see holding iPhones: "Siri, play Nickelback" ...then bask in the chaos I have created.
 
The idea probably, if Apple wants to take your everyday life, and stick it into siri with GPS so it knows what u listened to yesterday, and what time of day (based on the clock) and where u where when u did it, then it would 'appear' smarter than u just manually finding that same song to play on your own.

I bet transit maps are still limited..... aka it's not like Google Maps before they updated to v3, before u could have at least 20.

it would be good to plan your entire day with transit, and never needing to touch your phone again for the till u come home.

"Low power mode" in iOS 9.. I bet we all will get on board with using this, then say ."but its still not enough." We'll just use this feature to OUR advantage :)
 
And I'll be the first to shout through a PA in a crowded, quiet theater filled with people I see holding iPhones: "Siri, play Nickelback" ...then bask in the chaos I have created.

Siri should of course recognise my voice and only allow me to control my phone.
 
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sub-standard hardware - are you serious? In what universe is Apple's hardware not best in class? Glass screens before everyone else, multi touch before everyone else, retina before everyone else, 64 bit processing before everyone else and the list goes on and on and on. As far as longevity - excuse me but Apple supports older devices much longer than anyone else. And in regards to the 1G ram - ram is expensive in terms of battery life - adding 2 reduces it so writing an OS that functions efficiently with only 1G is rather remarkable - Google hasn't been able to do it.

Don't worry apple cracked the battery chewing monster that is 2GB of ram and got it into an iPad Air 2. Even over came the huge issue of the OS being written for 1GB of ram.

Yes it's sarcasm...

Apple idevices will have 2Gb ram when released this year, battery life will be just fine, your making a mountain out of a molehill in relation to 2Gb v battery life. 2gb of ram is a very clever way to get people to upgrade, if they want smooth operation.

And in regards to the OS being remarkably efficient at 1gB, i disagree with constant freezes, having visited the Genius Bar to be told it's due to memory issues. I cannot wait to get 2GB just to get rid of the daily freezes of the phone where I have to wait up to 20sec before it responds.
 
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Four years since Siri was introduced and I still have to press a button to activate voice recognition.

I hope iPhone 6S will have the hardware so Siri can be active all the time.
If only Siri can be activated the way Google is activated on Android by just saying "OK Google". The only way Siri even comes close is the "hey Siri" option.
 
Notice how no one has mention how this is a carbon copy of microsoft's windows 8 snap/multitasking.
but if this was the other way around, you ppl will be at an uproar how everything is copying apple.

apple would file patents on edge slide to split view and start suing every one.
notice how Microsoft introduced this in 2011 and filed no patents and isn't suing no one?
I totally agree with you. Aero Snap for desktop apps. And Metro Snap for full screen apps.

I also like how Cook always mentions adoption rates being above windows. It's a bit misleading. Yes Apple reached 80% on Yosemite in the time frame Windows 8.1 took to get to 10% or whatever. But I bet that 10% is a higher install base than the entirety of the OS X install base.
 
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Just to play devils advocate, Android still doesn't have multitasking either. Only Samsung has really done multitasking on touchwiz. Both iOS and Android have multitasking announced, but until iOS9 and Android M are out they are just announcements. I do agree that Apple is the undisputed king of copying, but in the case of multi tasking they are not so bad. Although this is ignoring windows on tablets which have had multitasking since day one, heck they even had it years ago on the older chunkier windows XP and windows 7 tablets.
 
This, unlike many others, is actually something I'll use!... if it's any good.

First Apple app in years I think I'll use and that won't be dropped in a "Utilities" folder. I'm still VERY annoyed about the Apple Watch app. At least the others serve some kind of purpose. This one is just to advertise.
 
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Good to know from here on out an iPad update will always make sense on my end, but I can wait a little longer.
For now...

Exactly. Apple has finally given me adequate reason to update my iPad. I returned my Air 2 and went back to my 3 because despite being lighter and faster, it didn't do anything mine couldn't. Now there is real incentive and I plan to get the Air 3 because I don't like the Air 2's build quality.
 
Based on what was presented I haven't formed an opinion yet. If performance and stability is improved in iOS 9 (over what 8 current has) then I would be delighted. I've got 2 iPads running iOS 8 that are on life support (iPad 2 and 4) because of iOS 8.

Does the iPad 4 really run that bad? My 3 is pitiful, but you have 2x the CPU and GPU power. Still, the needly translucency takes it tool.
 
Does the iPad 4 really run that bad? My 3 is pitiful, but you have 2x the CPU and GPU power. Still, the needly translucency takes it tool.
The iPad 4 runs pretty bad... not as bad as the iPad 2, but nowhere near how it ran on iOS 6, or how my iPad 1 runs iOS 5.x. I've disabled everything disable-able to improve performance.
 
The iPad 4 runs pretty bad... not as bad as the iPad 2, but nowhere near how it ran on iOS 6, or how my iPad 1 runs iOS 5.x. I've disabled everything disable-able to improve performance.

Slighly confused, my iPad 4 runs as good as the day I bought it. On iOS 8.
What are you doing on it that's so taxing?
 
The iPad 4 runs pretty bad... not as bad as the iPad 2, but nowhere near how it ran on iOS 6, or how my iPad 1 runs iOS 5.x. I've disabled everything disable-able to improve performance.

That's sad to hear. After iOS 6 the "joy" of my iPad 3 died. It's almost a chore to browse the web with it.

Slighly confused, my iPad 4 runs as good as the day I bought it. On iOS 8.
What are you doing on it that's so taxing?

Not to call you out, but I don't see how that's possible. There have even been articles with numbers depicting how much iOS 8 slowed down older devices.
 
Slighly confused, my iPad 4 runs as good as the day I bought it. On iOS 8.
What are you doing on it that's so taxing?
Sorry, but if your iPad 4 shipped with iOS 6 then what you claim is technically impossible. iOS 8 does more than iOS 6. Even if everything disable-able in iOS 8 is disabled it still has more going on than iOS 6. If you have upgraded apps that require iOS 8, they're doing more than what they did under 6.

The cumulative affect is that an iPad 4 running iOS 8 is not going to be as responsive as it was running iOS 6.

I'm not saying or implying that your experience is not as you stated. I believe that your usage is perfectly acceptable to you. But there's a difference. How much of a difference depends upon expectations and actual use cases.
 
Wow, iOS 9 is the gimmick iOS. It's taking all of the useless gimmicks of previous iOSs - like Siri, Maps and etc - and updating them so they're even more useless and even more gimmickly.

Yay! I can barely wait! I also can't wait to see the multitude of bugs we will get THIS time.
 
Wow, iOS 9 is the gimmick iOS. It's taking all of the useless gimmicks of previous iOSs - like Siri, Maps and etc - and updating them so they're even more useless and even more gimmickly.

Yay! I can barely wait! I also can't wait to see the multitude of bugs we will get THIS time.
Totally...if you ignore all the other improvements that are coming with it.
 
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Wow, iOS 9 is the gimmick iOS. It's taking all of the useless gimmicks of previous iOSs - like Siri, Maps and etc - and updating them so they're even more useless and even more gimmickly.

Yay! I can barely wait! I also can't wait to see the multitude of bugs we will get THIS time.


In what way is SIRI a "gimmick"? Tell that to a blind person or someone with motor difficulties and see their response. Maps has issues that are quickly being resolved - but in no way is it a "gimmick". Just because YOU don't see a use for something doesn't make it a "gimmick".
 
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