Apple Announces iOS 9 With Proactive Siri, Maps Transit, iPad Multitasking and More

[MH01]

Is someone at Apple reading those recommendations? Then no, I wouldn't be concerned.

Just like someone isn't reading my advertisments/recommendations that gmail gives me (the computer figures that out).

I want to play music based on my GPS location!!!

Gary

To be honest, my comment regarding targeting is a can of worms, and could be debated for a very long time. I should have known better than to raise it.

Can I ask how you would expect music based on GPS to work, for instance, you fly to another country?

 

[MH01]

It is interesting that Apple takes such a heavy handed approach with iOS, but does no such thing with OS X. Meaning they do not prevent feature usage based on RAM allocation.

I guess apple expects you to upgrade your idevice a lot more often than a computer, and gives you a little nudge by removing features.

Also Apple computers need to be able to run modern applications and windows when needed, apple cannot gimp them on purpose, as a lot of apps are cross platform. Hence their computers come with adequate RAM installed. Very good machines in fact .

 

[recoil80]

Multitasking is a big win. I like the way they implemented it . Split view being only on iPad Air 2, very disappointing , and I hope it's a technical reason behind it and not drive for sales.

Yes people will say it's RAM, though we will soon know when devs get their hands on it.

RAM is of course one of the reasons why Split View is on Air 2 only, but I don't think it is the only one.
CPU and GPU power may be a more important reason in my opinion.

 

[sillypooh]

Where all the freedom loving, privacy advocates who complained about google going through your email now?

Is Apple selling this stuff to advertisers? Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[BvizioN]

Security and Privacy are two areas where Android "shines" over iOS? Did I slip into an alternate universe, or has Android really changed that much in the years since I abandoned Google for their intrusive business models?

I think....

 

[keysofanxiety]

Same excuse for Siri yet hackers back-ported Siri to older iOS versions.

And at the time, it ran like a bag of crap on my JB iPhone 4. Plus Maps was beyond sluggish. It was hardware limitations and is at the moment. 1GB RAM won't offer enough in the way of a decent multitasking experience.

Again, Apple are still at fault for releasing sub-standard hardware which won't offer much longevity. But it's not a software limitation.

 

[shk718]

And at the time, it ran like a bag of crap on my JB iPhone 4. Plus Maps was beyond sluggish. It was hardware limitations and is at the moment. 1GB RAM won't offer enough in the way of a decent multitasking experience.

Again, Apple are still at fault for releasing sub-standard hardware which won't offer much longevity. But it's not a software limitation.

sub-standard hardware - are you serious? In what universe is Apple's hardware not best in class? Glass screens before everyone else, multi touch before everyone else, retina before everyone else, 64 bit processing before everyone else and the list goes on and on and on. As far as longevity - excuse me but Apple supports older devices much longer than anyone else. And in regards to the 1G ram - ram is expensive in terms of battery life - adding 2 reduces it so writing an OS that functions efficiently with only 1G is rather remarkable - Google hasn't been able to do it.

 

[AustinIllini]

I think....

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Lay off. Zombies don't do sarcasm. @ZombiePete will probably eat your brains.

 

[keysofanxiety]

sub-standard hardware - are you serious? In what universe is Apple's hardware not best in class? Glass screens before everyone else, multi touch before everyone else, retina before everyone else, 64 bit processing before everyone else and the list goes on and on and on. As far as longevity - excuse me but Apple supports older devices much longer than anyone else. And in regards to the 1G ram - ram is expensive in terms of battery life - adding 2 reduces it so writing an OS that functions efficiently with only 1G is rather remarkable - Google hasn't been able to do it.

Well at the time the iPhone 4's CPU genuinely wasn't powerful enough to run Siri dude, that's all I was referring to. And current RAM limits with Safari reloading (even referring to RAM in the crash logs) is well documented. The CPU in the iPhone 6 is stunning, which is a real shame seeing as it only has 1GB RAM.

Of course with the latest iteration of iOS we'd have a better idea of hardware limitations, I'm hoping you're right and the current issues with iOS is down to shoddy coding/memory management rather than hardware bottlenecks from the RAM.

 

[thekeyring]

more excuses. admit it, apple copied. and if this was the other way around. you would want to burn MS/SAMMY/GOOGLE at the stake

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[keysofanxiety]

Wow, WWDC has shown me I hate this forum.

There's too many naysayers here, just **** off all of you.

I welcome the ban I'm about to get because the users here are pessimistic beyond belief

Just relax man, people tend to be really angry about things Apple do because they're so passionate about the company. Nobody would really give two tosses if HP or Dell make a stupid business decision or release a product they don't like.

Don't let it get to you, it's only a forum where people are of course going to air their gripes

 

[sp3k0psv3t]

Errr, that's what I was asking for in the first place. If I could set up apps that could be limited (on more than one account) then I could enable the iPad to do anything. My kids use their own iPads, but there are times when they're allowed to use the net and games, and times when they are free to read ebooks, revise for lectures and/or use certain other educational apps. Accounts on iOS would fix this. Anyone who thinks a kid with an iPad they're supposed to be reading on is always doing what you think they are is dreaming.

In a manner yes. you are correct. Accounts could possibly fix this. There would still, however, need to be an administrator to put the specific content app content on the device and physically monitor the child in some way. You could limit say internet by locking a setting with a specified user name (child) and duration, etc. so I do see the point it would make it "easier" in this instance. At least you could be in the other room instead of hoovering over the child to see what they are actually doing every instance. And I agree 100% with your last statement lol, simply look to what happened in LA when the kids bypassed all the school security packages to use the iPad's as THEY saw fit lol.

Maybe an option for you, although (to be fair to me here lol ) this is off the hip so I haven't committed much real thought to it, is this: what about using privacy lock settings. In this manner you can turn off wifi/cell signal and turn off certain apps. Then the setting will not allow changes to be made to those apps or those settings until a password is entered. So using the Internet, the child could be in the other room but if you have the app turned off and they try to turn it on they will be prompted for the password. Then you do that for all of the apps and just monitor time of use for the child. Just an idea.

Have a great day.


USVet96

 

[ZombiePete]

I think....

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Yeah, my sarcasm detector doesn't do well with text. It does recognize the /s tag when utilized properly though.

 

[ZombiePete]

Lay off. Zombies don't do sarcasm. @ZombiePete will probably eat your brains.

Texans sticking together; Sam Houston would be proud.

And yeah, zombies do tend to take things pretty literally.

 

[C DM]

It is interesting that Apple takes such a heavy handed approach with iOS, but does no such thing with OS X. Meaning they do not prevent feature usage based on RAM allocation.

I guess apple expects you to upgrade your idevice a lot more often than a computer, and gives you a little nudge by removing features.

Also Apple computers need to be able to run modern applications and windows when needed, apple cannot gimp them on purpose, as a lot of apps are cross platform. Hence their computers come with adequate RAM installed. Very good machines in fact .

Desktop hardware and architecture are fairly different concepts compared to mobile counterparts. It's most simply a matter of comparing numbers.

 

[thekeyring]

Has Apple lost its mojo?

Ohh.. And where was the AppleTV with an app store... Still missing

No, Jong-Kyun Shin, they haven't.

 

[Saucesome2000]

Huh? Ram has nothing to do with Siri (The 4 and 4s have the same RAM), it's just that the iPhone 4s and up have better noise cancelling microphones.

As a phone novice, I would like to disagree. I've had voice dictation not work on my 5s and 6 (not on my 6+, though, which is weird). After closing out a few apps, voice dictation works. Again, I'm not an expert, but with what I do know about computers and phones, I think it has something to do with RAM. But seriously, if you can educate me more about it, please do.

 

[PaulRustad007]

In a manner yes. you are correct. Accounts could possibly fix this. There would still, however, need to be an administrator to put the specific content app content on the device and physically monitor the child in some way. You could limit say internet by locking a setting with a specified user name (child) and duration, etc. so I do see the point it would make it "easier" in this instance. At least you could be in the other room instead of hoovering over the child to see what they are actually doing every instance. And I agree 100% with your last statement lol, simply look to what happened in LA when the kids bypassed all the school security packages to use the iPad's as THEY saw fit lol.

Maybe an option for you, although (to be fair to me here lol ) this is off the hip so I haven't committed much real thought to it, is this: what about using privacy lock settings. In this manner you can turn off wifi/cell signal and turn off certain apps. Then the setting will not allow changes to be made to those apps or those settings until a password is entered. So using the Internet, the child could be in the other room but if you have the app turned off and they try to turn it on they will be prompted for the password. Then you do that for all of the apps and just monitor time of use for the child. Just an idea.

Have a great day.


USVet96

Triple click on the HOMe button and see all the restrictions you can place on the iPad. Solves a lot of problems.

 

[Paddle1]

As a phone novice, I would like to disagree. I've had voice dictation not work on my 5s and 6 (not on my 6+, though, which is weird). After closing out a few apps, voice dictation works. Again, I'm not an expert, but with what I do know about computers and phones, I think it has something to do with RAM. But seriously, if you can educate me more about it, please do.

It's impossible for the reason there is no Siri on the iPhone 4 to be RAM as the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S (the first device to have Siri) have the same amount of RAM. They did however change the microphones on the 4S.

There are still errors possible even now but the point I was making is that the microphones were improved over the iPhone 4.

RAM has more to do with how many things can be done at once by a device.

 

[JackANSI]

The comment about "new cars with carplay" took me by surprise. Why would we need a new car? I wonder how it works. I would assume its handled by bluetooth, but that would only require a software update. I mean, if my iPhone could replace my key maybe it would need some new hardware, but the feature is not that impressive (or taxing).

The whole CarPlay thing feels and sounds like a half-baked idea in the current form. I don't think Apple has it figured out how they want just yet or can't move forward with their vision. A fair portion of the blame for that is the automobile manufacturers. I don't think they even know what anyone wants as far as that kind of integration, nor do they want to test the limits of what is legal (distracted driving laws, etc).

I know I'd be pretty pissed if I were a automobile maker and some idiot with a rooted phone sues me because said idiot got hacked and his car got destroyed/stolen because of it.

 

[bawbac]

sub-standard hardware - are you serious? In what universe is Apple's hardware not best in class? Glass screens before everyone else, multi touch before everyone else, retina before everyone else, 64 bit processing before everyone else and the list goes on and on and on. As far as longevity - excuse me but Apple supports older devices much longer than anyone else. And in regards to the 1G ram - ram is expensive in terms of battery life - adding 2 reduces it so writing an OS that functions efficiently with only 1G is rather remarkable - Google hasn't been able to do it.

You forgot to add the [/sarcasm] tag.

 

[Traverse]

Really happy with everything I saw yesterday, especially with the iPad optimizations. Question though, does the new News app support RSS feeds? I'm wondering if they could be a replacement for Reeder.

 

[shk718]

Well at the time the iPhone 4's CPU genuinely wasn't powerful enough to run Siri dude, that's all I was referring to. And current RAM limits with Safari reloading (even referring to RAM in the crash logs) is well documented. The CPU in the iPhone 6 is stunning, which is a real shame seeing as it only has 1GB RAM.

Of course with the latest iteration of iOS we'd have a better idea of hardware limitations, I'm hoping you're right and the current issues with iOS is down to shoddy coding/memory management rather than hardware bottlenecks from the RAM.

SIRI is not run on the phone - all the phone does is record your voice and send it to Apples servers. The VR was done on the server side. SIRI's problems, in the beginning, were due to Nuance's VR issues, not 1 G ram. The rumors are that Apple is taking it in house and applying modern voice recognition algorithms (I believe they're calling it "neural net" technology). The results are obvious - SIRI has improved dramatically (at least for me it has). Safari reloading - yes that is due to ram constraints - another issue is badly written apps that don't release when closed.

 

[shk718]

I know! This was one of the best parts I thought and how iOS update size will get smaller and how iOS will operate faster.

I'd love to see Google try to do this with all the hardware they have to support. Their OS has always been lazy - slow - jittery - not smooth - poor battery life. I think Google has some great ideas - their services are amazing - it really is a shame Apple and Google had to split - the phone the two of them could have created together would have been amazing!

 

[manu chao]

The Air 2 has 2gb ram vs one in the original Air.

I was being sarcastic.