Apple Announces iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Mini With Smaller Notch, Repositioned Rear Cameras, and More

[eddjedi]

Again, speed difference is only relevant to the person. If, for whatever absurd reason, you happen to need to back up 265gb of data. Most transfers aren't that large, so you're blowing it out of proportion to suit your narrative. As far as the cable/device argument, let me spell it out for you. Which would you prefer to have to replace, the charging port in your phone, or a charging cord? The cord is a lot more likely to break with that style, versus USB-C, which places the male end on the inside of your device.

How about some actual facts rather than your baseless ramblings. My 256GB iPhone XS is approximately 50% full. Every time I back it up, roughly once a month, it takes about 15 minutes, because Lightning cables are USB 2.0. If it was USB 3.0, it would be significantly quicker. That's not 'absurd' or 'suiting my narrative', that's an actual, common use case.

On your second point, I own three USB C devices (Macbook Pro, Microsoft Surface, power bank.) All of them require charging regularly. Over the last couple of years I have broken zero USB C cables, zero charging ports. BUT I have gone through two Lightning cables in that time charging my phone, because they are so damned fragile.

And on your final point of stress points, have you ever even used a USB C or Lightning cable? Lightning cables clip into the device, USB C does not, and both have the male end in the port, not only USB C. If you trip over a cord attached to a device, a USB C cable is going to pull out before a Lightning cable will.

Again, nothing absurd or obscure, real life scenarios. And as bobcomer states above (which for some bizarre reason you 'liked') do you have any idea how often Lightning ports fail?!

 

[bobob]

DIAGONAL CAMERAS!!!!!!!

killer feature!!!

/s

That is an embarrasingly superficial analysis of the upgrades to the cameras in the iPhone 13.

 

[CR45H 0V3RR1D3]

How about some actual facts rather than your baseless ramblings. My 256GB iPhone XS is approximately 50% full. Every time I back it up, roughly once a month, it takes about 15 minutes, because Lightning cables are USB 2.0. If it was USB 3.0, it would be significantly quicker. That's not 'absurd' or 'suiting my narrative', that's an actual, common use case.

On your second point, I own three USB C devices (Macbook Pro, Microsoft Surface, power bank.) All of them require charging regularly. Over the last couple of years I have broken zero USB C cables, zero charging ports. BUT I have gone through two Lightning cables in that time charging my phone, because they are so damned fragile.

And on your final point of stress points, have you ever even used a USB C or Lightning cable? Lightning cables clip into the device, USB C does not, and both have the male end in the port, not only USB C. If you trip over a cord attached to a device, a USB C cable is going to pull out before a Lightning cable will.

Again, nothing absurd or obscure, real life scenarios. And as bobcomer states above (which for some bizarre reason you 'liked') do you have any idea how often Lightning ports fail?!

Not everyone has 128gb of data that they backup every month. So, again, an example suited to you, for your narrative. I already acknowledged that they are slower, but for the average person, that simply doesn't matter all that much. Hell, I know quite a few people that have never even transferred with a cord, just sent the data to the cloud directly from the device. Not saying everyone would, but it's a scenario that would probably play out more often than your example. And again, you mention cable strength, to which I am pretty sure I acknowledged that that was exactly my point. I would prefer the cable break, rather than the device. And, no, the iPhone has the male end on the cord, you can't have two male ends(someone failed sex ed, LMAO). As far as why I liked bob's post, because he actually made sense and I acknowledged it. Ports can still break down, I never said they couldn't, but I would take a lightning over USB-C any day of the week.

For the record, I am glad that you have never broken a USB-C connection/device/whatever, but that is still anecdotal, at best. Simply because USB-C holds up better for you, doesn't mean it does for the rest of the world. Honestly, the only sound argument I have heard, is the lack of compatibility among electronics.

 

[tfresquezdxs]

Anyone else feel like the new colors are just meh especially compared to the iPhone 12's vibrant color selection. Wonder if next spring they come out with a new color like they did this year.

 

[eddjedi]

Not everyone has 128gb of data that they backup every month. So, again, an example suited to you, for your narrative. I already acknowledged that they are slower, but for the average person, that simply doesn't matter all that much. Hell, I know quite a few people that have never even transferred with a cord, just sent the data to the cloud directly from the device. Not saying everyone would, but it's a scenario that would probably play out more often than your example. And again, you mention cable strength, to which I am pretty sure I acknowledged that that was exactly my point. I would prefer the cable break, rather than the device. And, no, the iPhone has the male end on the cord, you can't have two male ends(someone failed sex ed, LMAO). As far as why I liked bob's post, because he actually made sense and I acknowledged it. Ports can still break down, I never said they couldn't, but I would take a lightning over USB-C any day of the week.

For the record, I am glad that you have never broken a USB-C connection/device/whatever, but that is still anecdotal, at best. Simply because USB-C holds up better for you, doesn't mean it does for the rest of the world. Honestly, the only sound argument I have heard, is the lack of compatibility among electronics.

Apologies, that was a typo, I meant the male ends were on the cable, not the ports. I guess you could argue that a USB C cable is male and female, but USB A ports have the same inner connector but are still technically female. A USB C cable IS considered male, not female, despite the design being 'hybrid.'

We'll have to agree to disagree on this, but you can't say the 'only sound argument' is compatibility while also agreeing USB C is faster and less prone to breaking, all three of my arguments are clearly sound. If you prefer Lightning that's fine, but don't pretend it's better. I don't know many people who prefer Lightning over USB C, that is the edge case here, not mine.

 

[CR45H 0V3RR1D3]

Apologies, that was a typo, I meant the male ends were on the cable, not the ports. I guess you could argue that a USB C cable is male and female, but USB A ports have the same inner connector but are still technically female. A USB C cable IS considered male, not female, despite the design being 'hybrid.'

We'll have to agree to disagree on this, but you can't say the 'only sound argument' is compatibility while also agreeing USB C is faster and less prone to breaking, all three of my arguments are clearly sound. If you prefer Lightning that's fine, but don't pretend it's better. I don't know many people who prefer Lightning over USB C, that is the edge case here, not mine.

All I said was that it is a superior design, not that it worked better. So, maybe that's where some of the confusion came from. Of course I acknowledge all of the pros of the USB-C connection, other than it's design. As far as the male/female part and the basis of my argument. A USB-C connection wraps around the male, protruding end, on Android devices, which is very susceptible to breaking. In that instance, you have no choice but to have your device repaired or use wireless to get by(which I have). Lightning, the male, protruding end, is on the cord and the device wraps around it. So, if it were to snap off, the male end, which is connected to the cord, is what would break. That was all I was saying. If they could use USB-C tech, but in the design of a lightning cable, that seems like it would be the best of both worlds. Obviously, no one would want to replace a lightning cable every month or two, because they break so easily, but if the alternative was having to send my device in to be repaired, that seems like a compromise I would be willing to try. This is why you see a lot of those 3rd party magnetic break away style connectors on the market, because this is an actual issue with the current design of Android/USB-C devices. I appreciate your civility as well, you certainly don't get that from Android users either. Have a great day.

 

[aperantos]

A USB-C connection wraps around the male, protruding end, on Android devices, which is very susceptible to breaking. In that instance, you have no choice but to have your device repaired or use wireless to get by(which I have).

How often does that happen, though? Nothing is fool proof, but surely the frame of a USB-C device would also need to give way for the plug on the cable to get enough movement to apply pressure on the protruding end and break it.

Were that end something which sat external of a device I would have agreed it was a terrible design for the reasons you gave. But we are not talking about a connector that simply sits around a protruding end, but about a socket into which sits a plug that encloses a protruding end.

And that protruding end is not flush with the socket but set back, so that there should be no possible vertical movement of the plug by the time it has travelled far enough into the socket to meet the protruding end.

To me the USB-C connector seems to have been designed to reduce, as much as possible, risks of failure whilst Lightning is fragile almost to the point of being designed to be disposable. And given the thickness of the protruding end on a good quality lightning cable, I would no more want to risk using it to apply pressure on a device's socket any more than I would with a USB-C one.