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Looking forward to jumping on board next year. I'm at a stage in my life that, what I used to find appealing about Android, is no longer the case. Certainly not worth the fragmentation that comes along with it. Watched the event yesterday and other than that creepy main speaker, it was really cool. I'm happy they're not acquiescing to an FP sensor, that's just going backwards. The notch should be gone by the time I get on board, so that's a non issue. And the lightning connection is far superior to USB-C, in terms of design, so I am glad that they haven't budged on that as well. Looking forward to trying out one of their watches too.
 
I really find it hard to believe that anyone could actually think that the timing of those two direct from Apple releases - - the keynote motorcycle movie and last week's motorcycle vibrations press release - - was accidental.

The four day gap for reaction after the initial press release notifying that "Exposing your iPhone to high amplitude vibrations within certain frequency ranges, specifically those generated by high-power motorcycle engines, can degrade the performance of the camera system." and yesterday's "Everyday Hero" official trailer for the iPhone 13 was clearly designed as a 2-step strategy to defuse internet hot takes.

More importantly, this combined strategy allows Apple to decrease their liability for iPhone repairs, as noted in this perceptive comment via Engadget:

"A warning doesn’t mean you can’t do it. It’s just that you are taking that risk, if you choose to do it. It’s more about warranty liability, I would say. On that note, since when is risk a deciding factor for somebody riding a motorcycle? ;)"

This is an important leverage moment for Apple, with the imminent influx of many, many new users of their sensor-shift optical image stabilization (OIS) system (formerly only available to Pro Max users), as it now becomes available across the entire iPhone 13 line (right down to the Mini).

Nope, this was no accident.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought they said that this wouldn't be an issue for mo-peds and scooters, just motorcycles. And, was the person in that ad, not riding a scooter? I don't get your point. Also, you don't need an article to tell you that intense vibrations, over a prolonged period, will affect gyroscope based tech, that seems like common sense.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought they said that this wouldn't be an issue for mo-peds and scooters, just motorcycles. And, was the person in that ad, not riding a scooter? I don't get your point. Also, you don't need an article to tell you that intense vibrations, over a prolonged period, will affect gyroscope based tech, that seems like common sense.
What they actually said was:

"Attaching your iPhone to vehicles with small-volume or electric engines, such as mopeds and scooters, may lead to comparatively lower-amplitude vibrations, but if you do so a vibration dampening mount is recommended to lessen the risk of damage to your iPhone and its OIS and AF systems."
 
What they actually said was:

"Attaching your iPhone to vehicles with small-volume or electric engines, such as mopeds and scooters, may lead to comparatively lower-amplitude vibrations, but if you do so a vibration dampening mount is recommended to lessen the risk of damage to your iPhone and its OIS and AF systems."
Again, it seems like common sense. If you know you're going on a high vibration ride, maybe don't strap your shiny, 1,000 dollar device to it.
 
Glad they kept the mini. Best phone I've ever had when it comes to form factor but unless they swap out the pointless wide angel for zoom and give it better battery I'll be going back to the pro.

Still no touch ID. I'll keep my SE 2017 (128GB) with its fresh battery for a while longer. :cool:
 
Apple already trying to convince me to upgrade 😂
 

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And the lightning connection is far superior to USB-C, in terms of design, so I am glad that they haven't budged on that as well. Looking forward to trying out one of their watches too.
How is something that is slower, less compatible, and more fragile far superior? I literally can't think of one reason why Lightning is better than USB C. I can currently use the same cable for every device, except my phone. I was hoping that now the iPad Mini has USB C, they would roll it out for iPhone too.
 
How is something that is slower, less compatible, and more fragile far superior? I literally can't think of one reason why Lightning is better than USB C. I can currently use the same cable for every device, except my phone. I was hoping that now the iPad Mini has USB C, they would roll it out for iPhone too.
Slower, that's arguable whether or not that even matters. To most, a few extra seconds isn't a big deal. Less compatible, well duh, it's proprietary, LMAO. As far as more fragile, that's my point. I want the weak link to be the cord, not the device.
 
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Didn’t expect smaller notch, nice. No matter what changes or stays, everyone knows most people upgrade for just a new color anyway.
Anecdotal, but this morning, my wife said, "I'll be honest; the only reason I'd ever upgrade my phone is because of a new color." We had a good chuckle, but I imagine you're right.
 
Slower, that's arguable whether or not that even matters. To most, a few extra seconds isn't a big deal. Less compatible, well duh, it's proprietary, LMAO. As far as more fragile, that's my point. I want the weak link to be the cord, not the device.
Right, so you agree it's faster (backing up a 256GB device with USB 2.0 vs 3.0 is not a few seconds), not proprietry, and the cable (not device) will not break as easily? You've got a strong argument there...
 
Seems there is barely any performance improvement compared to the A14. Both chips are on the same 5 nm manufacturing process, which once again proves what I said before that "designing" isn't important; the manufacturing process is the most important component of chip development.
It's not a coincidence that on the 2 back-to-back years where Apple was forced to use the same node process, performance stagnated.
TSMC's manufacturing process is the "magic" behind Apple Silicon, not Apple's chip team. Stop giving Apple credit for it.
 
Right, so you agree it's faster (backing up a 256GB device with USB 2.0 vs 3.0 is not a few seconds), not proprietry, and the cable (not device) will not break as easily? You've got a strong argument there...
Again, speed difference is only relevant to the person. If, for whatever absurd reason, you happen to need to back up 265gb of data. Most transfers aren't that large, so you're blowing it out of proportion to suit your narrative. As far as the cable/device argument, let me spell it out for you. Which would you prefer to have to replace, the charging port in your phone, or a charging cord? The cord is a lot more likely to break with that style, versus USB-C, which places the male end on the inside of your device.
 
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“The iPhone 13‘s camera is the best camera on an iPhone yet” or “this is the fastest iPhone we’ve ever made”
That line is classic Steve Jobs, and he’s the only one who could get away with it. Logically, what are you telling us? Are you confirming that in case we were worried that the new camera is crappier than its predecessors that we should not be concerned? From a sales approach, of course the newer one is marketed as being better yet they seem to always include it in every segment within that keynote and it always annoys the **** out of me.
I’m waiting for the launch where they say that the new model is not faster than it’s predecessor. Then I’ll pay attention. But this bs upgrade cycle Tim Cook is squeezing us suckers through is ridiculous.

Real Talk: milking loyal consumers for a new phone every year is a $1,500 sale; because we always have to get the best ones, right? I love analyzing the line outside the apple store on launch day and asking the other sheep like me online waiting to give our cash to 🍎 if they really notice a difference in the quality of their photos. It’s like all of the sudden, everyone is a professional photographer needing garage size prints of their kids coloring.

It’s an embarrassment that a company as innovative as Apple (once was) is milking full model upgrades out of camera enhancements. Where’s the big game-changing disruptive stuff that Jobs rocked our minds with? Remember when he made us sacrifice our disc drives? MacBook Pro nuts like me thought he went off the reservation… but as usual, he was right. Why can’t someone have some balls there like that anymore?/
 
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Still no touch ID. I'll keep my SE 2017 (128GB) with its fresh battery for a while longer. :cool:
And just to think that we graduated from Touch ID 5 generations ago… it’s a cycle; they bring back what they threw out. At what point do we get to call bullsh*t on this whole dialing-it-in on these major upgrades?! They threw away MagSafe chargers for lighting, then threw away lightning for usb-c, and now we’re going full circle back to magsafe (rumors I should say, but of high quality).

This I’d expect from Dr. Fauci and the CDC on mask 😷 guidance, because frankly know one knows what the hell they’re talking about, and that’s the truth. But Apple designers and engineers shouldn’t be given that excuse because after all, the CDC has never dealt with a COVID pandemic before, but Apple is insistent that they maintain strict control over hardware evolution. That only works if you evolve it as we would expect to see in an annual full upgrade cycle. Otherwise, cut the crap and stop annual keynotes announcing major new phone enhancements like a new shade of blue (I can’t get over that one). Who cares? You end up throwing a case on it anyways! But leave it to them to sell us on how they had to develop a new type of ahh-luuu-min-we-yum (Jonny Ive’s British accent being used to spruce up the ads, classic). It’s aluminum and it ain’t as sexy as Jonny makes it sound. 😀

Who is running R&D at the most liquid 💰 company in sili valley
exactly? Jonny Ives had the where-with all to get the hell out when the going was good. It’s embarrassing quite frankly.
 
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Again, speed difference is only relevant to the person. If, for whatever absurd reason, you happen to need to back up 265gb of data. Most transfers aren't that large, so you're blowing it out of proportion to suit your narrative. As far as the cable/device argument, let me spell it out for you. Which would you prefer to have to replace, the charging port in your phone, or a charging cord? The cord is a lot more likely to break with that style, versus USB-C, which places the male end on the inside of your device.
Hey Crash, Zero Cool 😎
 
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Apple Announces iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Mini With Smaller Notch, Repositioned Rear Cameras, and More​


that headline makes you wonder how cynical the author was about the lack of creative thought or feature evolution that was packed into this disaster of a keynote. They can’t be serious about this sounding like ‘OH, IVE GOT TO GET ME ONE THOSE,..” right?
 
Again, speed difference is only relevant to the person. If, for whatever absurd reason, you happen to need to back up 265gb of data. Most transfers aren't that large, so you're blowing it out of proportion to suit your narrative. As far as the cable/device argument, let me spell it out for you. Which would you prefer to have to replace, the charging port in your phone, or a charging cord? The cord is a lot more likely to break with that style, versus USB-C, which places the male end on the inside of your device.
I've had way to many lightning ports on my devices going bad to want to keep that. Some kind of magsafe connection would be best I think, but at least usb-c is a common cable connection for a lot of different devices.
 
I've had way to many lightning ports on my devices going bad to want to keep that. Some kind of magsafe connection would be best I think, but at least usb-c is a common cable connection for a lot of different devices.
Honestly, I don't have a problem with USB-C, it's just the way it's engineered, that's flawed. I'm not saying that iPhone ports can't go bad, but from a stress point perspective, I would prefer the breaking point to be on the cord, rather than the device. That's all I meant by saying "superior" , from an engineering standpoint, it is. Having the male end attached to the device, is the flaw of USB-C. If USB-C reversed the connection, it would be a win, win.
 
Honestly, I don't have a problem with USB-C, it's just the way it's engineered, that's flawed. I'm not saying that iPhone ports can't go bad, but from a stress point perspective, I would prefer the breaking point to be on the cord, rather than the device. That's all I meant by saying "superior" , from an engineering standpoint, it is. Having the male end attached to the device, is the flaw of USB-C. If USB-C reversed the connection, it would be a win, win.
I definitely understand your point, but I've had really bad luck with lightening on my family iPads. I have to clean the connectors frequently, and they eventually just go bad -- the connector really isn't well built. Oddly, I've never had a problem with the connector on my iPhones. But since my iPhone 11, now all I use is wireless charging. (My first iPhone was a 4) I've got an Android phone now with USB-c, but I use wireless charging on it too.

USBC can put more stress on the connector, but as long as one is careful, I'd take USB-c over Lightening any time. But like I said, probably some kind of magnetic connection would be the best of all.

Raw speed of any connector really hasn't been an issue for me unless you're talking about real PC's.
 
I've had way to many lightning ports on my devices going bad to want to keep that. Some kind of magsafe connection would be best I think, but at least usb-c is a common cable connection for a lot of different devices.
FWIW, Since the 5s the family hadn’t had issues the lightning ports or the cables. The connectors are smaller than usb and I’ll take them over usb “any day”.
 
I definitely understand your point, but I've had really bad luck with lightening on my family iPads. I have to clean the connectors frequently, and they eventually just go bad -- the connector really isn't well built. Oddly, I've never had a problem with the connector on my iPhones. But since my iPhone 11, now all I use is wireless charging. (My first iPhone was a 4) I've got an Android phone now with USB-c, but I use wireless charging on it too.

USBC can put more stress on the connector, but as long as one is careful, I'd take USB-c over Lightening any time. But like I said, probably some kind of magnetic connection would be the best of all.

Raw speed of any connector really hasn't been an issue for me unless you're talking about real PC's.
I agree, I see great possibilities with this magsafe idea. Hopefully, all this talk about charging cords will soon become moot. Maybe then they could add a dedicated mini HDMI(for lack of the proper word)interface. That would take care of data transfers and A/V out capabilities.
 
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