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So, when these high tech home buttons go out it will be like a 200.00 repair? I hope not. Surely, they have figured out a better design so these new "mr gadget" home buttons will not crap out like the old ones. I replaced my home button so many times on my iPhone 4 that I put it in the drawer and use my old 3GS instead.
I would rather have seen a fixed home button "area" instead of a mechanical springy one.

It should help alleviate the failing home button problem as I think you don't need to push it anymore if you don't want to which will result in less wear.

If it fails for other reasons though I'd imagine it's gonna be pricey.
 
What do you think, should I get Xperia Z1 or wait for Nexus 5? My iPhone 4 is too old and I don't want to wait another year.
 
I like the 5s, I´m gonna buy it. fingersensor and better camera, great!

Here are my huge disappointments:
-It´s about time they up the flash to 32, 64 and 128 for the same price points.
-Siri in other languages, since apple support more languages on the phone, SIRI should do the same - if not its still beta software after 2 years. I would like to have Siri in my native language.
-The release dates are ridiculous. No mnetion of official releasedates for more than just a few countries. Im my country, norway, you will now only be able to buy the 4s for everything up to new years eve with no info as to when they will release the new phones. That means currently and for everything up to 4 months apple will only sell a 2 year old phone in my country. Only Apple can get away with such an retarded move. I´m amazed.

also, in all honesty, Cook always say they have the inventory of new products lined up every year. We are now in September, Apple has release an incremental update to their phone, iOS7 which is cool though, and a MB air incremental update. And also Mavericks is a minor update IMO. I really hope there´s something more "cooking", if not, his view on a year stacked with releases is quite different than mine - they are the worlds leading tech company for gods sake

.........forgot the Mac Pro though - which is cool. But again, hasn´t been released yet ;) ........so in Europe, neither the mac pro is available to order, nor the new iphones, which has no official release date. Seems they are not able to produce stuff in time - but because of expectations just has to announce it. Now I understand the secrecy, its mainly to protect us from the excruciating pain of waiting for stuff we know will be released but with no specific timetable.
 
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64-bit processing does more than just address more RAM. With software properly written for 64-bit it crunches twice as much data. For developers it starts to make sense to optimize for 64-bit and then compile to 32-bit if you need the legacy support.

64-bit is not a useless feature by any stretch.

You can crunch bigger numbers, although that's not as common as you'd think. A lot of the software written doesn't need more than 32-bit integers (although some do).

The speed boost from 64-bit comes from other changes to the instruction set. ARMv8 doubles the register count for general purpose and the SIMD/FP unit, which means fewer load/stores dealing with RAM. That does translate into a non-trivial performance improvement. But only the 64-bit apps can use the additional registers, so that perf gain isn't available to the 32-bit apps.

There are other architectural changes that improve speed of the CPU beyond what a developer has control over. But they may or may not be able to benefit from it without recompiling, as it depends on the exact nature of the changes, and how many are only in the A64 instruction set.

32-bit apps on the Mac got ~10% boost just recompiling for x64. x64 doubled the number of registers over x86's 32-bit registers as well, which itself was good for 10% faster code.
 
It's a really nice phone.

- 64-bit was a total shock to me. Didn't expect it. I hope they've increased the memory to account for it.

The iPhone doesn't need 64-bit, and this would be the first 64-bit ARM chip AFAIK. That's a major architectural change, so I suppose they designed a new architecture and decided that since 64-bit was the future they might as well do it now. That makes sense: I wouldn't expect a 2x speed improvement just from the 32/64-bit jump and additional registers. Compiler technologies like Link-time optimisation might help, too (I remember them saying at WWDC that it gave them huge gains internally).

- Storage capacity is still pathetic.

Really, what's the point of 16GB on a phone like this? The only way that would work would be if iCloud saved all your photos and streamed them in to your library seamlessly like they were locally-stored.

If Apple had doubled the capacity at each price it would be perfect. 16GB isn't "forward thinking" at all.
 
So what's the point of the Model A1533? The 1453 appears to be exactly the same with an additional band.
 
well that was a big flop. until they increase their phone's screen size by at least .7", and start selling their flagship model with 32gigs of storage for $200, this phone is gonna keep failing and failing.

Yeah Apple is making a killing of iPhone sales. Huge fail.

And no 128 GB because....?

Do you really need your whole iTunes library and a years worth of photos? Sync your phone and back your stuff up occasionally!
 
The only reason I'm remotely considering the new iPhone because the volume button on my for S is broken - keeps zooming to full volume (probably from a drop).

The new camera features are nice but nothing else really excites me.

I think this would've been the time for Apple to come out with a larger screen phone like they are reportedly working.

That probably would've jazzed more people than this incremental update, imho.

I think the 5C will be a great option for people who don't want to shell out the money for the 5S or, for younger kids. ie. It seems a lot of my son's 12-year-old friends have iPhones. Whether or not a kid at that age needs an iPhone is beyond me but I'm thinking in a couple years the 5C or 7C (whatever it will be), would be a good entry level phone.
 
iPhone 5S = 5 models [4 base models] however consumer buying the Verizon model will no longer have to stress about not having it work on AT&T or T-Mobile as it supports Full LTE and 4G on all GSM networks in north america:


AT&T/ T-Mobile / Norther America GSM UNLOCKED Model A1533 (GSM)*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)

Verizon [ GSM A1533 with CDMA Enabled] A1533 (CDMA)*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)

Sprint Model A1453*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26)

International/International Unlocked Model A1457*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)

China Model A1530*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20); TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 40)

So does this mean that a subsidized VZ iPhone will be automatically unlocked and fully functional on ATT & T-mobile since VZ wasn't allowed to lock the phones?
 
I'm looking forward to the teardowns already!

Has anyone noticed the rear mic has changed? The iPhone 5 has a pill shaped rear mic and the 5S has a round shaped rear mic. (that's the complete opposite of the LED flash.)
 
You can crunch bigger numbers, although that's not as common as you'd think. A lot of the software written doesn't need more than 32-bit integers (although some do).

The speed boost from 64-bit comes from other changes to the instruction set. ARMv8 doubles the register count for general purpose and the SIMD/FP unit, which means fewer load/stores dealing with RAM. That does translate into a non-trivial performance improvement. But only the 64-bit apps can use the additional registers, so that perf gain isn't available to the 32-bit apps.

There are other architectural changes that improve speed of the CPU beyond what a developer has control over. But they may or may not be able to benefit from it without recompiling, as it depends on the exact nature of the changes, and how many are only in the A64 instruction set.

32-bit apps on the Mac got ~10% boost just recompiling for x64. x64 doubled the number of registers over x86's 32-bit registers as well, which itself was good for 10% faster code.

Great point. Even if you have a 64-bit processor there will always be bottlenecks somewhere as rarely does a CPU double the bandwidth of every connection. Thanks for the enlightening post.

You keep spinning in circles more than Linda Blair in the exorcist!

So by your definition....'limited access' entails access to the entire phone and iTunes account....but not third party developers.

You have NO idea what you're talking about and it is abundantly clear. With every post, you dig yourself deeper.

Awesome reference. I'm spitting green stuff out my mouth as well.

Those that follow development know that Apple often has private API that eventually go public to Devs after being battle tested. I see Touch ID as being battle tested with limited Apple Only access. Once the data comes back that it's secure Apple rolls out more comprehensive tools and support for 3rd party Devs. What we're both saying is understandable. Just different approaches right?
 
"iOS developers will not get access to the users' fingerprint as a means of authentication, according to AllThingsD, which spoke to Apple SVP Phil Schiller. He declined to comment on whether that sort of access may come in the future."

This is without a doubt - stupid. They have something that could have made the user experience with the device better, and they lock it down to ITunes and IBooks. Incredible.
 
What you need so much storage for? Music- cloud. Photos- photo streamed to Mac. 16 gig is fine for me.

Videos & Apps were conspicuously left out of your list, plus I don't feel like paying Verizon more than the arm & leg I am already paying to stream music from the cloud.
 
Well Done Tim Cook!

This is the first phone lanuched under Tim Cook, since Steve jobs had worked on ihpone 5. I must say Tim really is a great leader for APPLE...Good Job Steve for oppointing Tim Cook!!!!!!!!!!
 
September 25, 2012

Q: I love my Black & Slate iPhone 5, but I've been seeing some scuffs, scratches and marks throughout the band around the phone along with many others. What should we all do? Any plans to fix this?

Schiller: Any aluminum product may scratch or chip with use, exposing its natural silver color. That is normal.

September 10, 2013

Apple killed Black & Slate color option.

The 'space grey' is apparently a lot better for preventing scratches :) Good thing too :)
 
"iOS developers will not get access to the users' fingerprint as a means of authentication, according to AllThingsD, which spoke to Apple SVP Phil Schiller. He declined to comment on whether that sort of access may come in the future."

This is without a doubt - stupid. They have something that could have made the user experience with the device better, and they lock it down to ITunes and IBooks. Incredible.

It'll happen but safety first. I don't know the developers of my apps personally so extending them my fingerprint data is a little disconcerting after the PRISM stuff. If i'm a betting man it's an iOS 8 feature along with 3rd party SIRI support.
 
64-bit processing does more than just address more RAM. With software properly written for 64-bit it crunches twice as much data.
Only certain types of instructions can benefit from the wider gate, and it comes at the cost of additional addressing space for every pointer used, along with the 32-bit compatibility layer.

Not entirely without benefit, but after the trade-offs it wouldn't be a choice I'd make until I had >4GB on board.
 
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