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Forgive me if this was answered, I went through about 15 pages and didn't see it.. for existing customers:
I have a blackjack I got a month ago that I need to tether to my mbp for a trip in July. I have unlimited pda plan with 450 voice. I haven't used AT&T/Cingular for about 4 years.. it used to be that you could purchase a phone and then if you wanted to upgrade etc you could buy the new phone stick your sim card in and voila you have activated the new phone. You could however be able to put the same sim card back into your old phone and still be able to use the old phone if needed.

My long winded question is: if I buy the iphone and will be using that primarily but every once in a while want to use the blackjack as the modem for the mbp (or do not want to take the iphone b/c I'm going camping or something), would I be able to?? Basically have the blackjack and the iphone interchangeable on the same phone number? :confused: I'm not sure how the new 3g sim cards work.. That stupid AT&T site is no help either. Any ideas if this is possible?
 
the T-Mobile Get More 1,000 is 40 bucks a month with free n&w. Add 20/mo for the Unlimited BlackBerry Plan (which you can use on ANY phone you want, even if it isn't a BB), and you're at the same price as the iPhone plan. The only thing you lose is free m2m, but with 550 more minutes, most won't need m2m.

I call BS on your BS. Do your damn research next time

Hmmm...as an existing T-Mo customer...it looks like the Blackberry Unlimited plan would be $29.99 on top of my $39.99 voice plan. That's $10 over the iPhone plan. If I switch to the $59.99 Blackberry plan, it's the same price...but T-Mo is charging me 10 times more per minute.
 
now how about those of us currently on AT&T with FamilyShare plans? can these plans be share if only one of the phones is an iPhone and the other is a BlackJack? doubtful.

what then are my options? the line i want to upgrade to the iPhone is not under contract, the other line is (upgraded to a BlackJack last year).

so, am i forced to split the lines from the FamilyShare plan? it says i can us ANY AT&T plan, meaning I should be able to us my current shared plan and just add a certain amount for the unlimited data & 200 texts (which i currently pay $20/month for, and am fine with that).
If I were you, I'd be asking these questions at an AT&T store. You sound like you need special attention. This probably isn't a new problem to them, but something that's probably out or range for people hear who are just regurgitating info they've been reading all over.

If you're seriously considering an iPhone, it would be worth your time to educate yourself at a store before Friday (if you plan on buying launch date.)
 
I call BS on your BS. Do your damn research next time
I call BS on almost all of your posts here.

Who are you to call someone a stupid consumer because they want something that you don't? Or are willing to pay for something that you're not? Or that don't see the value in the other carriers plans that you do?

Your values are your values, but when you try to regardlessly impose your values/thoughts over someone elses, that makes you seem very much like the person in your avatar that you have a big ole slash through.
 
nope

The iPhone is to my knowledge the first time they allow this. This is not normally allowed. I guess they didn't want to piss off millions of customers like me that are not upgrade eligible :D (I've had it since April 06).

Been like that for awhile; t doesn't matter to them as long as you don' cancel the service.

So yeah, you can walk into cingulatt today and get an unlocked or unlockable phone on the discount with a two year...unlock it or do a straight sell on ebay tonight...then friday pick up an iPhone and click "existing customer" and be good to go...if thats what you wanna do :)
 
I call BS on almost all of your posts here.

Who are you to call someone a stupid consumer because they want something that you don't? Or are willing to pay for something that you're not? Or that don't see the value in the other carriers plans that you do?

Your values are your values, but when you try to regardlessly impose your values/thoughts over someone elses, that makes you seem very much like the person in your avatar that you have a big ole slash through.

Fine, perhaps I was wrong. But I still don't know why everyone is perfectly fine with blatantly getting ripped off. Maybe if consumers put up a bit of a fight, the plans would be better, but AT&T sees a bunch of fanboys that will line up even if the plan was 200 bucks a month, so they take advantage.

Its like leaving a wad of cash in an unlocked car in an alley in the ghetto. Did you get robbed? Yeah, but I can't feel sorry for you when you allow it to happen
 
Not the minutes, the data plan.
From the data plan page it shows it as $29.99.
Or the combo package for $59.99, but without the promotion.

Its somewhere. Go through the motions of purchasing a Blackberry, then the BB Addon is 20 bucks when you go through the checkout pages

If you're not buying a BlackBerry, you don't get the option of that plan. So you don't buy your phone with a data plan. But once you get your My T-Mobile account setup, you can login, switch your current phone to a BlackBerry in there (even though you don't even own a BB) and choose the plan. I'm doing that right now with my HTC Herald.
 
I read that on Appleinsider. If you need to activate to even use it just as an iPod, that cr**! WTF? They're not just nickel and diming us, they're quartering us!

What could possibly make you think that they'd sell you a phone with the intention of you not using it as a phone?

And why would you want to buy it if you're not planning on actually using the main feature?

Makes no sense to me. If you want an iPod, just get an iPod.

Just in network. No company has any network mobile to mobile unlimited. If that were the case, then there wouldn't be minutes listed on the calling plans, it would simply say "Unlimited".

There would still be minutes listed since land lines aren't "mobile".

What if you don't want voice, and only need unlimited data and a little texting? I don't see why I should be forced to pay $60 a month of which a significant part goes to pay for something I won't use?

Just curious, is there any other mobile phone you can get with a contract that has text and data but not pay for phone? Is there? You know, it's a shame they don't sell cars without wheels or engines...it's such a huge ripoff for all the people who just want to sit in it and listen to the radio...
 

The add on plan also doesn't include text messaging (and I still don't see a price posted for the add on either)

BlackBerry Unlimited Add-on
Add access to BlackBerry's powerful data functionality to a voice rate plan. The BlackBerry Unlimited Add-on includes unlimited BlackBerry Web Client e-mail and Web browsing. Does not include text/instant messaging.
 
Its like leaving a wad of cash in an unlocked car in an alley in the ghetto. Did you get robbed? Yeah, but I can't feel sorry for you when you allow it to happen

Classy.

Its like leaving a wad of cash in an unlocked car in an alley. Did you get robbed? Yeah, but I can't feel sorry for you when you allow it to happen

More Classy.
 
Additional Monthly Charges

"Monthly charges do not include applicable taxes, State and Federal Universal Service Charges, Regulatory Cost Recovery Fee and gross receipts surcharge."

According to this page, my additional charges would only be $6 for the $59.99 plan, for a total of $65.99/month. Not too shabby! :cool:
 
Just curious, is there any other mobile phone you can get with a contract that has text and data but not pay for phone? Is there? You know, it's a shame they don't sell cars without wheels or engines...it's such a huge ripoff for all the people who just want to sit in it and listen to the radio...

Yes. The Blackberry.

I'd like to use it for internet, for SMS, for emailing, for movies/pictures, for the many features it has. But not for voice or audio. Is that so hard for you to understand?
 
The add on plan also doesn't include text messaging (and I still don't see a price posted for the add on either)
http://t-mobile.com/promotions/Blackberrypearllp.aspx

400 texts is 5 bucks a month. So for a total of 5 bucks more than what AT&T is offering, you get 550 more minutes, 200 more texts (and MMS, obviously the iPlan doesn't include MMS), unlimited data, unlimited nights and weekends. Only thing you lose is m2m, but with more than twice as many minutes, I certainly wouldn't need m2m.
 
But I still don't know why everyone is perfectly fine with blatantly getting ripped off.

I know why. Because they're not getting blatantly ripped off. Seriously, what's the fantastic deal that's so much cheaper? All the other alternatives listed have been about the same price or maybe $5-10 cheaper.

And some of the other "better" alternatives listed have had more minutes, but no mobile to mobile. As someone who makes 90% of calls to people in the same network (family), I'd MUCH rather have the unlimited M2M over a bunch of minutes.

Seriously, if you keep yelling "ripoff" without showing a better plan, you just make yourself look like a fool.
 
Just for comparison

T-Mobile. 1,500minutes, unlimited data, 400 SMS: $65.00
Sprint. 450 minutes, unlimited data (3G), 300 SMS: $59.00 (slightly less of a ripoff due to 3G)
Verizon: Not even going to bother since they're probably twice as much as everyone else

Looking at T-Mobile and Sprint's pricing, it's safe to say this is a ripoff.

Dude, we get it: you have strong man-love for T-Mobile and hate AT&T. I won't even bother mentioning lack of rollover minutes, Sprint's horrible voice coverage, that you can get more text messages than T-mobile for the same price, that 3G doesn't matter if you don't have access.... etc.

AT&T's plan is very comparable and dare I say competetive (how much does it cost for visual voicemail on T-mobile again?). If you are going to hate AT&T no matter what: fine, but just let it go now.

yg17: Days and days of bitching is too much: just stop now.
 
This is yet another example of how Canadian cell phone users get screwed. We would never, EVER get rate plans as good at this. Not by a longshot. Every aspect of this plan makes me jealous. I would pay rates like this in a heartbeat for what it gets.

i used to live in europe. and there consumer were almost always screwed in comparison to the usa. it starts with our liberal return and exchange policies of which germans (and i guess the rest of europe) can only dream of. yes, the medical system there is better, but you cant build your whole life on where its better to be sick!
 
Forgive me if this was answered, I went through about 15 pages and didn't see it.. for existing customers:
I have a blackjack I got a month ago that I need to tether to my mbp for a trip in July. I have unlimited pda plan with 450 voice. I haven't used AT&T/Cingular for about 4 years.. it used to be that you could purchase a phone and then if you wanted to upgrade etc you could buy the new phone stick your sim card in and voila you have activated the new phone. You could however be able to put the same sim card back into your old phone and still be able to use the old phone if needed.

My long winded question is: if I buy the iphone and will be using that primarily but every once in a while want to use the blackjack as the modem for the mbp (or do not want to take the iphone b/c I'm going camping or something), would I be able to?? Basically have the blackjack and the iphone interchangeable on the same phone number? :confused: I'm not sure how the new 3g sim cards work.. That stupid AT&T site is no help either. Any ideas if this is possible?

Yup, for you that's about it.


I think.


On the other hand, for new AT:apple:T customers, if I buy at the Apple store, will they have new AT:apple:T SIM cards for us, or do you think we'll have to make a separate visit to an AT:apple:T store?
 
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