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But I still don't know why everyone is perfectly fine with blatantly getting ripped off.
You know, W could make the exact same argument for his policy in Iraq. Obviously when you look at it, you see something entirely different than he sees. Just like when you look at the AT&T iPhone plans and see "blatant rip off", not everyone else is going to see that. Everyone has different needs. Just because something isn't right for you doesn't automatically make it wrong for everyone else too.

If you're not buying a BlackBerry, you don't get the option of that plan. So you don't buy your phone with a data plan. But once you get your My T-Mobile account setup, you can login, switch your current phone to a BlackBerry in there (even though you don't even own a BB) and choose the plan. I'm doing that right now with my HTC Herald.
You know, people used to try that trick (using an inappropriate data plan for a device) with the old $5.99 t-zones plan to get around having to buy the $19.99 Internet plan.

After a certain period of time, T-Mobile caught on and majorly restricted the t-zones plan, making it all but usless to the people who were misusing it.

What you're doing is advocating that people do the same thing with the $19.99 BlackBerry Plan.

That plan is not designed to be used on any other device.

It surely does work, but you can not guarantee people that T-Mobile will not restrict it (based on device) like they did with t-zones.

The correct unlimited PDA internet on T-Mobile is $29.99/month, which includes HotSpot access.
 
How will family share plans work? I will get an iPhone but my current contract has my wife's V3 on it and we share time? Thanks all.

BTW, I have have been a long time 'lurker' on the boards. (years) I have just started to post...odd...I don't know why but I feel like I know many of you. I am such a nerd. -Doc
:) Welcome.

You are in the company of nerds. And Geeks. And Dweebs. Good company indeed.

About your question: seems like you might need to make a quick trip into an AT&T store about this one as it's probably not a straight-forward enough Q for people here to know about ... I could be quite wrong however, as most people here are pretty decent on their facts.

Oh and thanks,...

A lot of Newbies come on board and make the mistake of seriously negative comments without backup and seemingly, for the sake of starting trouble. It's a nice change of pace that you came in with. Thanks from all of us here at the Macrumors Community. :D
 
All I know is that I currently have a Blackberry 8800 with unlimited data and 1,500 SMS per month and the iPhone plan is $10 cheaper.

If I consider what I can sell the BB for I can take another $15 off my monthly rate!

This descision could not be easier, especially since I am getting the iPhone as a gift.

I am going to miss my push BB-style email for a bit but I have a feeling there will be a solution soon. I will be so happy when I get OTA sync with my .mac account!!
 
I apologise if this has been mentioned before. But as I couldn't be bothered to read the other 20 pages, I don't mind if it has. Have you noticed that when he is syncing his iPhone. It says the capacity is 74 gig.
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I just thought that was a bit weird.
 
I know, T-Mobile can't easily cut off internet on the BB plan though since BBs are meant to have full access to the internet. They'd have a lot of pissed off customers
 
I would bet good $$ and maybe even an iPhone that the Blackberry plan will NOT work with an iPhone. The BB requires BES or BIS and I doubt very seriously I can go into my BIS (BB web client for inputting email accounts) and add an iPhone.

Good luck with that.
 
Its somewhere. Go through the motions of purchasing a Blackberry, then the BB Addon is 20 bucks when you go through the checkout pages

If you're not buying a BlackBerry, you don't get the option of that plan. So you don't buy your phone with a data plan. But once you get your My T-Mobile account setup, you can login, switch your current phone to a BlackBerry in there (even though you don't even own a BB) and choose the plan. I'm doing that right now with my HTC Herald.

Ohh, so like if I wanted to add the iPhone account to my existing plan it is $20 more. :rolleyes:


Now, if you hate the phone, so be it. But for $20 a month (ASSUMING you need those minutes not during nights or weekends and can't go with the $59.99 plan) you get unlimited M2M and wifi and the ability to use the iPhone.

I think most people would agree that is worth it. You are not one of those, but that is fine. But don't pretend it is 39.99 versus 79.99, those are different plans.


Oh, and nice catch TheAnswer! So it is actually like $15 a month.
 
what kind of news is required to actually send AAPL up!? Ridiculous...

How about good news...AAPL receiving $5-$10 per/sub/month was built into the stock. The plan rates seem low enough that I can't see Cingular giving that much of a % to AAPL. So the stock price adjusts.
 
Yes. The Blackberry.

I'd like to use it for internet, for SMS, for emailing, for movies/pictures, for the many features it has. But not for voice or audio.

So do you have a separate phone? Or do you have a blackberry but go without a cell phone?

Which is better?

39.99 for 1000 minutes on T-mobile
or
59.99 for 450 minutes for iPhone on At&t?

It depends. For 39.99 do you get unlimited data and free mobile to mobile?
 
Its somewhere. Go through the motions of purchasing a Blackberry, then the BB Addon is 20 bucks when you go through the checkout pages

If you're not buying a BlackBerry, you don't get the option of that plan. So you don't buy your phone with a data plan. But once you get your My T-Mobile account setup, you can login, switch your current phone to a BlackBerry in there (even though you don't even own a BB) and choose the plan. I'm doing that right now with my HTC Herald.

Sounds awesomely intuitive and simple.

Just. stop. bitching.
 
These plans aren't too bad at all, although 200 text messages isn't enough. I like the rollover.
 
Quick question from europe: Does the free minutes also count, if you are phoned? Or only if you phone someone?

I have an argument with an friend, who says in america it costs money for both calling partners.

Nights & Weekends & M2M (mobile to mobile): Free for both.
Regular: BOTH people "pay" (use up minutes). I was surprised to learn that this is different in Europe (all incoming is free I believe?). There's a company out there with free incoming, I forget which (Verizon?).
 
Sounds awesomely intuitive and simple.

Just. stop. bitching.


I'm not bitching. I'm pointing out the facts. you GET MORE with the T-Mobile plan. More minutes. More SMS.

But I'm done. You all are too obsessed with this stupid phone. Have fun paying out the arse and dropping calls every minute. Its a sad day to be a Mac user, I hate being associated with the stupidity observed in this thread.
 
Does the T-Mobile plan come with an unlimited data plan? rollover minutes? (I am assuming it comes with at least 200 SMSs)

Nopes. But the iPhone plans charges 20$ for the data plan. Plus, with 450 minutes I have no idea what kind of minutes can you rollover with when there is none left?
 
lol... this is so ridiculous...



yg17, look... we appreciate you looking out for us... it’s very kind of you... but we are big boys and girls now, we can make our own decisions on what to buy... thanks for all your help dad/mom/financial advisor/rude person inside a web forum... we can take it from here... you can look and post somewhere else, maybe in a forum that interests you with things you like... perhaps a forum about creating fights and writing uneducated posts on the web...
 
I'm wondering I already got Pre-Approved with a Credit Check I had ATT run yesterday at the store.

The guy gave what's called a "Ban" number, and told me to give that number to whomever I see on Friday when getting the Phone.

But now that activation is being done through iTunes, I'm wondering if they'll have to run my credit again?

Anyone know?
Yes. I know... You are fine. You will simply use that credit check code when you are activating your phone through iTunes. Just saw it on the iPhone Activation video Apple posted. I'd suggest downloading it -- about 7.5 minutes of useful information.
 
Nopes. But the iPhone plans charges 20$ for the data plan. Plus, with 450 minutes I have no idea what kind of minutes can you rollover with when there is none left?

Then please post comparable plans. Your previous comparision was disingenuous.


(and I DO have leftover minutes each month so your usage != usage of everyone else.)
 
I'm not bitching. I'm pointing out the facts. you GET MORE with the T-Mobile plan. More minutes. More SMS.

But I'm done. You all are too obsessed with this stupid phone. Have fun paying out the arse and dropping calls every minute. Its a sad day to be a Mac user, I hate being associated with the stupidity observed in this thread.

Your arguments were mostly gross simplifications ignoring the nuances of cell phone coverage, rollover minutes, mobile-to-moble minutes, and whether being $5 more expensive is "getting ripped off".

At least everyone can agree that one less arrogant @$$hole on the forum is a good thing. Have fun talking about how totally rad Sidekicks are with 14-year old girls on the T-Mobile forums...
 
sorry, but i have to laugh at this. this is a joke. i currently have a blackberry pearl that runs on the ATT EDGE network. it is ridiculously slow. just to get a weather report can take 30 seconds.

Where are you located, if you don't mind?

I mean if i can load fancy pages like apple.com from an empty cache full screen over EDGE in less than 30 seconds, it seems to me that you 1. Ain't on E 2. are suffering from blackberry's f'd up backend
3. are full of it.

:)
 
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