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Enjoy your 2011 model, because you are going to be using it the rest of your life if you expect either FW or optical to come back.

Everyone on earth knew both were gonners. How is anyone surprised?

Well someone agreed with me. The 21.5 i7 is now gone from the Apple Refurbished Site.

Dammit. Looks like I've got no choice now.
 
I was really thinking of getting this, but I think I'm going to have to pass.

thin and light is great when using a laptop or a tablet, I don't see the advantage in a desktop unit. I'm not concerned with these in a non portable and would prefer to have an optical drive. I'm not willing to spend more money and have increased desk clutter to have an external dvd drive.

I love my iMac but the "thinner for the sake of thinness" is wearing...thin. I also don't need a thin desktop and now it loses something pretty useful - which when added as a peripheral kills all the aesthetic effort Apple made. Thinness that costs features is a net negative to me. My desktop can be thick and unseen - that is no loss to me. The optical disk as a peripheral - that is a loss.

Otherwise looks like a good upgrade.
 
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The 21.5" is all notebook components, including the hard drive, and no user upgradeability. The 27" maintains the upgradability (which has always been limited to RAM), has a desktop hard drive, and the i7 option.

For 27" purchasers, the losses are:
1. Firewire
2. DVD drive
3. $100 increase in base price, but high end models remain the same.
4. SD card slot moved to back where you can't see it.

The gains are:
1. USB3
2. Better display
3. Better CPU and GPU
4. 8GB base RAM.
5. Stereo microphones

Mystery item: it lists two Thunderbolt ports and a mini-displayport for monitors. The separate mini-displayport doesn't appear on the picture of the back. However it is only claimed to support one external monitor, so perhaps only one of the Thunderbolt ports supports an external monitor?


Thinness doesn't really matter, does it?

I think that pretty much sums it up.
 
Well someone agreed with me. The 21.5 i7 is now gone from the Apple Refurbished Site.

Dammit. Looks like I've got no choice now.

Not so. It will reappear. Refurbished systems come and go.

But the 21.5" models certainly seem to have taken more steps backwards than they have forwards.
 
The 21.5" is all notebook components, including the hard drive, and no user upgradeability.
The high end 21.5 can be configured to have a 3.1Ghz quad core i7. But yeah you're right with all the rest being notebook standard sadly.
 
Thankfully higher education pricing shaves off a couple of hundred pounds from that top end model.. It's certainly not worth getting the 21" model if you do more than menial computing tasks.

The 680MX/fusion drive BTO order option would be quite a nice, powerful computer, I imagine.

That said, the 680M is nothing on the full size 680.

Also, is it a new GPU? I don't see the 680MX listed anywhere.
 
Epic fail.

It's not a new design, it's just thinner.

So in other words, it is a new design.

No optical drive

Get an external one. If you can afford Apple products, you can afford a drive that sits next to your computer.

No new stand design

Why change it when there was nothing wrong with it? And actually, for the record, it's got a new taper.

No retina display

Completely unrealistic, given the cost of packing in the required number of pixels into such a large panel.

No upgradability

The new iMac has the same upgrade options as the old one.

No touch screen

If you want a 'Touchscreen PC', tune into QVC and get a HP.

No exterior design change (e.g. same chin)

This was already highlighted, if in different words...

No difference in available sizes

What's wrong with 21" and 27"?

This is essentially little more than a spec bump with a thinner screen. I don't need a thinner screen. The only possible appealing feature is the 75% less reflective AG coating.

FAIL.

Get a grip of yourself.
 
Plug in a cheap USB enclosure and a BR/DVD/CD burner of your choice. Sure, you lose some desk space, but you're guaranteed to have a faster and better quality burn. The included drives in iMacs were the weakest link anyway.

Apple have always been the first to ditch legacy standards an I'm afraid optical drives are just that. Many people are still use them, granted - but they are on the decline.

The 2 or 3 inches in extra gained BEHIND the iMac is far less important than the space lost on my desk by adding another box for an optical drive and associated cable and power cord.


Apple is sometimes wrong.
 
For the 21" model, the maximum hard drive size is 1TB? Why?

Guess they moved from 3,5 inch 7200rpm to 2,5 inch 5400rpm. 1tb is max on that.

And Apple, why didn't you get rid of the bags under the screen. You could have made a matching couple of TB display and iMac.
 
Good lord, how the heck does a 3.5" HDD fit in there ? That is RAZOR thin !!!!

1000
 
Really dumb to make the iMac that thin and take away the optical drive. There was no need to do that.

Well... different people, different point of views. I seldom use the optical drive on my machines... and when I do, is basically for curiosity on old CDs. Imagine all those people that complained that a computer without a Floppy Disk is dead... go figure:rolleyes:
 
I have two iMacs that I use at home (work and play). My work iMac which is for business only and my workhorse is the one I never use the optical drive. Never and I do lots of photo work. My upstairs iMax which i almost exclusively for my music collection. I use the drive daily as I've been importing my massive CD music collection.. Thousands still to go, but I have no problem getting an external drive because I've had two internal ones go bad over the years. Will replace one with the new iMac soon.

And I can finally get rid of all those free AOL CDs I've been hording.
 
If they are OEMing it with Seagate, it is likely 7200 per the Momentus Hybrid...

I _think_ the new iMac has Apple's SSD implementation like the rPros and Air (i.e., the no-case SIMM like components), and then a space for a 2.5" conventional HDD.

I'm thinking the Fusion config is SSD "cards" + a separate HDD (then the presence of both and the OS is set to optimize the storage allocation).
 
A difficult-to-service laptop in a desktop package. It has always been a problem with the iMac and now more than ever.

For those who need real configurability and serviceability, I guess it comes down to the Mini, non-Retina MBP, or Mac Pro.

But of course Apple will be looking to sell Airs, Retinas and iMacs as they move ever farther toward turning the PC into a sealed appliance.
 
It looks like BTO will not let you put a Fusion (hybrid) drive in the low end iMac. That single feature would make it more desirable than a Mini. Can you hang an iMac on the wall?

D.T. said:
I'm thinking the Fusion config is SSD "cards" + a separate HDD (then the presence of both and the OS is set to optimize the storage allocation).
Given the $250 upcharge that sounds right. It is available on the mid-price Mini and the iMacs EXCEPT the low end model. Sounds like a Traditional hybrid drive would be the way to go on all the incompatible Macs.

I had a ramdrive on my Mac+ and it has been an uphill battle to reproduce that greatness in a mac since.
 
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