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Yeah we'll see who comes out ahead few years if an EMP hits and your entire music, movie and photo collection is wiped out while we have physical engraved backups on discs.

This is one of the most amusing things I have ever read - I think if an EMP hits then I would be more concerned about everything else losing power like aircraft, cars, power stations...
 
This is one of the most amusing things I have ever read - I think if an EMP hits then I would be more concerned about everything else losing power like aircraft, cars, power stations...

I have thought of that before I think of everything, however if a major EMP went off I think I would have other things to worry about for quite awhile and things like you listed.
 
Some ppl are born to be unhappy and there is nothing in a world that could change that..... including Jesus.

It's too thin :(
It's too thick :(
Its too light :(
It's too heavy :(
No retina display :(
No flopy drive and optical drive :(
No touch screen :(

Epic fail! I will pass it (because i had no intention of buying it anyway)

Bla bla bla........
 
Yes but the tablets with RT is the cheap models. They also come with real Windows 8.

No I dont think it will be like Vista. Actually I think it will be a huge succes. You cannot compare those 2.

And Im am 100% sure about the touch thing.
Yes but the Windows 8 "pro" surface will not arrive until early 2013 and it will likely cost upwards of 1k USD putting it into the Macbook Air price category.

Have use used Windows 8? I have and it is frustrating to use with a mouse and using it on a touch screen in a "laptop" configuration would be tiring.

Based on my usage of Windows 8, I predict that it will be a debacle like Vista.
 
Some ppl are born to be unhappy and there is nothing in a world that could change that..... including Jesus.

It's too thin :(
It's too thick :(
Its too light :(
It's too heavy :(
No retina display :(
No flopy drive and optical drive :(
No touch screen :(

Epic fail! I will pass it (because i had no intention of buying it anyway)

Bla bla bla........

I like to think when someone complains about a product is it because they want to like it, I doubt that is always the case, otherwise I wonder why anyone would care.
 
CD-ROM in new iMac??

OK, so it's thinner and weighs 8 pounds less. But does it come with a CD/DVD-ROM drive? It sits on my desk, it needs the drive slot. My laptop is weight conscious, that's why I have a MacAir, but my desk doesn't really mind the extra 8 pounds. Now, save weight and give me the CD/DVD-ROM drive, preferably Blu-Ray, and then we may be talking.
 
OK, so it's thinner and weighs 8 pounds less. But does it come with a CD/DVD-ROM drive? It sits on my desk, it needs the drive slot. My laptop is weight conscious, that's why I have a MacAir, but my desk doesn't really mind the extra 8 pounds. Now, save weight and give me the CD/DVD-ROM drive, preferably Blu-Ray, and then we may be talking.

There are possible sales here, we could be future costumers if they did not limited their systems. I can see it working closer to this - It is missing what I need, pass. To, this system does too much, I will not buy it because it has an optical drive. That would be ridiculous, doing more is never going to be a bad thing.
 
That's great. I'm so glad to see they passed those savings on to the consumer by raising the price by $100.

My thoughts exactly. Hence my subject headline, it is for their benefit not ours.

The old 21.5 is now $979 on refurb.

It has 4GB Ram vs 8gb (and was previous generation)
It has 2.5 vs 2.7 i5 CPU
500GB vs 1 TB
USB 2 vs USB 3

And it has the SuperDrive vs the thinner display

Shows you how much profit was in the old one at $1199!
 
After little thinking, i am in market for 2011 27 incher - if it will be possible to buy them here in my country with some discount - good config of new imac is too expensive here in europe and entry new imac is simply bad machine with that slow hdd
 
can anyone confirm that ram is not user upgradable. is it soldered on the board or is it propreitry?
also how is it not possible to user replace the hd (normal HD not fusion drive), any evidence in that direction?

these are the only 2 things anyone would ever replace in the computers lifetime. Generally speaking though.
 
Why bother buying DVDs/CDs that will take more time to rip instead of downloading a digital copy (saves time ripping) for $2?

A Blu-Ray player are you serious? Why would they do that when you can just download movies you bought off iTunes anytime on ALL DEVICES? Why limit users to a physical media that you can't play from mobile devices like tablets and phones?

1. It's faster for me to rip the DVD than to download a digital copy... and I don't have to pay 2.00 again.

2. Yes, very serious about Blu-Ray, why not when they only cost 80.00 or less for the drive. HD rips are still 2 - 4GB+, too large for some people to download.


also how is it not possible to user replace the hd (normal HD not fusion drive), any evidence in that direction?
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Well the 2011 iMacs had custom hard drive firmware which made it a PITA to replace the hard drive.
 
Sigh.

I've been waiting for probably more than a year for a substantial design change. I miss the drastic design change of the first few iMac models. Since the mid 2000's, it's basically just been Plastic > Aluminum > Screen Ratio > Thinner.

The SD card slot seems hard to access back there. Do most people use a USB cable to transfer their digital photos? I still like to just pull out the card and stick it in my computer. I also understand that some don't need an optical drive, but these are supposed to be all-in-ones, not most-in-ones. It seems silly to have a slick designed computer, with a whole bunch of peripherals hanging around.

My 2007 2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo needs to be retired...I just don't know what to replace it with. :confused:

And even worse...I'm mildly tempted to play with a Dell XPS One 27 when it shows up in a store...
 
It still wont change the fact that eventually physical media for the current purposes used by consumers today will be redundant.

Yes, but that day has not come for Blu-Ray.

25GB - 50GB BD-R discs would be nice for backup purposes alone...

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Of late I have seen some 128GB in the $75 range and that would be our cost, I imagine Apple gets really good deals on the items they purchase.

Hopefully Apple uses higher quality SSD drives - preferably enterprise grade drives. In that case, those drives cost about 250.00+...

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I'm sorry but why do people STILL USE CDs??? I mean honestly.[/B]

How do you archive your home videos or photos? Or what about transfer videos/photos to friends and family? A 10c DVD is still cheaper than a USB drive...
 
Some ppl are born to be unhappy and there is nothing in a world that could change that..... including Jesus.

It's too thin :(
It's too thick :(
Its too light :(
It's too heavy :(
No retina display :(
No flopy drive and optical drive :(
No touch screen :(

Epic fail! I will pass it (because i had no intention of buying it anyway)

Bla bla bla........

Epic fail is not being able to spell 'floppy'
 
I would of really liked them to at least give the whole range a starter 1gig of GPU memory, 512mb is just low and the cost to apple would have been very small to do the increase. Am really stumped at why they didn't?
 
seriously, you want can afford a new iMac and don't want a fast internet connection? email the X-ray

Seriously - an untouched DICOM-image usually taxes in at around 10MB. Most peoples' mailbox won't even allow this size of attachment.

Seriously - have you considered the security efforts needed on both sides to have this sensitive data transferred secure.

And seriously - why change? You think optical is "stuck in the past" as Schiller said in his presentation? Guess what, there is no real substitute for cheap optical media to transfer this stuff.
 
Really, I don't agree... DVD & BD old tech - I never use, if I do i'll just use the superdrive I bought for my Macbook Air. I never use that either.
All my movies are on a 3TB external which is FW800....

Good luck with that. Seriously. Read customer feedback about early failures on external drives and you'll see what I mean. One day, the icon will just disappear and you've just lost all your movies... and anything else you had on that drive. Hope you've got another external drive to back that one up..... or maybe a friend who will lend you his dvds.....
 
Yes but the Windows 8 "pro" surface will not arrive until early 2013 and it will likely cost upwards of 1k USD putting it into the Macbook Air price category.

Have use used Windows 8? I have and it is frustrating to use with a mouse and using it on a touch screen in a "laptop" configuration would be tiring.

Based on my usage of Windows 8, I predict that it will be a debacle like Vista.

Yes I have and I think Windows 8 is brilliant. Touch part is brilliant - one click and you have a normal desktop. And whats the problem with the price ? Apple overprices every product.

You're just beeing a fanboy now and not seeing straight.
 
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can anyone confirm that ram is not user upgradable. is it soldered on the board or is it propreitry?
also how is it not possible to user replace the hd (normal HD not fusion drive), any evidence in that direction?

these are the only 2 things anyone would ever replace in the computers lifetime. Generally speaking though.


^ Fail.

Those are the ONLY two things anyone would ever replace / upgrade in a computer's lifetime. But Apple does not want you to do that. They realize that if they solder the memory onto the motherboard and make it damn-near mission impossible to get the hard drive out, then you are at their mercy and have to pay their totally offensive upgrade prices (sometimes double) at the time of purchase.

Sounds like they hired Gordon Gecko as SVP of Hardware Engineering.
 
What about people that want to import music CDs into iTunes?

Apple doesn't make any money off of you.. so you don't matter. Buy that CD again- this time from iTunes, or better yet, buy the album again, store it in the iCloud, and let Apple make money off of you forever.

Think like a smart businessman and you'll start to understand their logic.
 
I'm sorry but why do people STILL USE CDs??? I mean honestly.

I use DVDs a lot, because I am watching all my movie content through my laptop .. and the local Blockbuster is still a lot cheaper and has (in some areas) a better selection then iTunes.
I do burn CDs both data (mostly images) or music for family and friends most of them are not that tech savy and wouldn't know how to access a dropbox share. Besides, a CD cost .10$ so I happy to just give it away, where a USB drive is still a couple bucks and one doesn't hord them in bulks to give away (well at least I don't).

Not everybody in this world is ready to move away from cheap and easy to use storage media quite yet and while I get the urge for thinner and lighter in mobile devices (incl. laptops) it just doesn't make sense to me for a desktop machine.

T.
 
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How often do you use the optical drive?

Silly ass-umption on your part, no excuses.
Yes I use it all the time for my clients, sometimes I wish it wrote a tiny bit faster.

What is worse than your silly assumption (it is "silly", not just "petty", or "incorrect", or a "lapsus" but it is also ) is that we are talking about a desktop here.
 
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